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  • Mar 27, 2006, 03:37 PM
    lptphp2
    Blue veins under my eyes
    Ive always had these really dark blue veins under my eyes. I went to the dermatologist today to see about getting laser treatment done to get rid of them. The doctor told me as with all procedures there is risks but that since its so close to my eye there's serious risks. I was just wondering if there's anyone that has had this procedure done under the eyes or that knows how likely it is that something could go wrong?
  • Mar 28, 2006, 01:52 AM
    PrettyLady
    Lptphp2, there are many reasons the veins beneath the eyes become more prominent. Exposure to the sun and age often cause the delicate under eye skin to become even thinner and so the veins are more apparent.

    Sclerotherapy is standard in the treatment of veins but it should not be performed near the eye, unless the dermatologist or surgeon is highly skilled. Sclerotherapy was found to be effective in permanently removing veins around the eyes. Perhaps you should look for a dermatologist that does sclerotherapy beneath the eyes. Also, there's another procedure that requires excision or ligation (tying off) of the veins. This could be performed through an inconspicuous incision and would give you the best result with minimal risk of scarring. Talk to another dermatologist, they may be able to help you get rid of the veins.
  • Apr 1, 2006, 06:07 PM
    optimisticgirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lptphp2
    Ive always had these really dark blue veins under my eyes. I went to the dermatologist today to see about getting laser treatment done to get rid of them. The doctor told me as with all procedures there is risks but that since its so close to my eye theres serious risks. I was just wondering if theres anyone that has had this procedure done under the eyes or that knows how likely it is that something could go wrong?

    I have the same problem too. Just like you I want those veins gone for good, they make me look old and tired.Did your dermatologist tell you that it's laser treatment that can help you rid of those veins?I can't remember the type/name of laser treatment used but I thought that treatment doesn't have any side effects and I'm thinking of undergoing it.Just don't know the cost, could you please tell me the ballpark of the cost for the procedure.Thanks.
  • Apr 3, 2006, 12:23 PM
    lptphp2
    My dermatologist had told me that since the veins are so close to my eye that the laser treatment would be the safest but that there would still be risks since the laser was being used so close to my eyes. The price varies depending on the Doctor doing it but ballpark is roughly $100-$350 per 15 minute session. Some people require multiple sessions whereas some see results after only one treatment. I think price also depends on the extent of the vein and how many your having treated. I waitng to hear back from the doctor today to find out when I'm going to be able to go in. She had said that its just an in and out procedure no post treatment besides staying out of the sun for a while but that's pretty much it. Ill make sure to let you know what happens and how it goes.
  • Apr 3, 2006, 09:20 PM
    optimisticgirl
    [QUOTE=lptphp2]My dermatologist had told me that since the veins are so close to my eye that the laser treatment would be the safest but that there would still be risks since the laser was being used so close to my eyes. The price varies depending on the Doctor doing it but ballpark is roughly $100-$350 per 15 minute session. Some people require multiple sessions whereas some see results after only one treatment. I think price also depends on the extent of the vein and how many your having treated. I waitng to hear back from the doctor today to find out when I'm going to be able to go in. She had said that its just an in and out procedure no post treatment besides staying out of the sun for a while but that's pretty much it. Ill make sure to let you know what happens and how it goes.[/QUOTE

    Thanks for the info.Hopefully everything goes well for you.Are you going to undergo the so called "coolglide excel laser treatment"? I've been hearing about it, not sure if that's what your procedure is.
    The laser treatment you mentioned is quite pricey for a 15 min session.Wow.
    But hey, if it's going to rid those unsightly veins, why not go for it. Just have to find a reputable doctor around my area.
    Anyway, good luck to you and please let me know the results.
  • Apr 3, 2006, 09:25 PM
    optimisticgirl
    You mentioned about the side effects, how serious are they? Will the procedure affect the vision?Thanks for the reply.
  • Apr 4, 2006, 01:49 PM
    lptphp2
    I'm actually going in for the procedure on Thursday. Like with any procedure dealing with your eyes there's always a risk but they use a metal like cover over you eyes to shield them from the laser and angel it away from your eyes. There is plenty of precautions they take to protect your eyes but there's always a chance that something could still happen.
  • Apr 4, 2006, 10:38 PM
    optimisticgirl
    Thanks for the info.Is the procedure you're going through called "Cool glide excel laser treatment"? That's what I read they say will hopefully "eliminate" those veins.
    Anyway, hope everythings goes well for U.Keep me posted.
  • Feb 18, 2008, 07:34 PM
    new_direction
    Hi. I have dark veins under my eyes and it really bothers me. I use concealer to cover them but you can still see them. They are there all the time and if I had one wish it would for them to disappear! I've been researching and have heard about CoolGlide Laser Treatment. I was just wondering if anybody could tell me if it works for this problem? I will be booking an appointment in the next month and I really hope that it is an option. I've had enough of these dark under eye circles that have been on my face since I was a child. I would really appreciate it if somebody replied a response to me because I am looking for answers.
  • May 25, 2008, 02:03 PM
    ollyoomph
    All those with blue veins under eyes - depending on where under the eye, they can be super easy to treat. I tried the injections they do on leg veins, but it left injection mark scars and took forever to get rid of the scar. Then I went to a laser place in Tempe, AZ and for $300 bucks total, he zapped them on both eyes and they were gone forever. It didn't even hurt that bad either.
  • Jun 1, 2008, 07:26 PM
    internet_girl
    I have same problem 2 blue vein and several small red veins. I decided to do something went to a center in oc and she applied a laser around eyes. Scion laser; It has been 2 weeks no change at all. She also applied higher frequensy on the back of my legs... right away they disappeared; so I wondered is it ever going to go away?? those ugly veins around my eyes..? plllleaaaaaaase any one any answers
    I am going back in 6 weeks I wonder is my $300 bucks was down to tube? lol---I am hoping the nice lady that listed the questions in the first place---IPtphp2 will come to my rescue-------yaaaaaahooooooooo and tell me what kind of laser was it--mine was scion and she used same thing back of my legs but different feeling... around eyes she put a glass and then a cooling gel and I honestly felt cool ice creamy sensation... I prayed and prayed and came out ----no difference---I wanted to cry and she gave me a vaseline looking gel and went home all the back of foot had disappeared but not the ugly ones under my eyes... I hope you read this message and tell me what laser she used in ARIZONA if you know.. tnx and cheers
  • Jun 1, 2008, 08:11 PM
    ollyoomph
    Okay, I don't know what laser my guy in AZ used but maybe your gal used the wrong kind of laser.

    The guy's name is Dr. Bergmeier and I think the place is called Perfect skin and Laser... he's in Tempe, AZ and just do a Google search for his name and the city and you will come across him - the website has a red background... he's super knowledgeable and always on the cutting edge - you can just call and ask what laser they would use for veins under your eyes - and if they tell you they need to see you first, just ask what they would normally use for blue veins... also maybe it gives that info on their website - then you can call some laser places around LA who will do it with that laser. I would make that lady give your 300 bucks back or try it again at no cost. I do think my guy may have said that it might take more than once, but for me it didn't. I am telling you, he zapped each side and the veins that had bugged me for two years were gone forever!! Lasers are the best!!
  • Jun 2, 2008, 08:55 PM
    internet_girl
    :) thank you so much. You are a doll. Xoxox

    I will start searching for his name and website. Thanks so much
    God bless
  • Jul 15, 2008, 08:44 AM
    getridofmyvein
    I stumbled across this forum after another morning waking up, looking at my large blue vein under my left eye and getting upset it hadn't 'miraculously' disappeared over night.
    I hate my vein under my eye, I cover it up but still see it or know it's there. I don't have to use cover up for anything else so it's obvious. I absolutely hate it!
    I was really excited when I read this Question but upset the person who asked it has never come back to report her news.
    Has anyone had any luck getting rid of their under eye veins? I live in the UK, so can't make it to Tempe, but if it works I might one day have to book a flight over there!
    Any help/results/ names of good treatments that might be accessible in the UK would be much appreicated.

    Thanks
  • Jul 21, 2008, 10:46 AM
    ASH81
    Hi guys I'm so glad that there are people out there wiv the same problem as me(dnt mean it in a bad way) Im sooooo deppressed about the veins under my eye. I get people come up to me and ask if I'm OK n if I've been punched in the eye. I look like a zombie sometimes. I SOO BADLY Want to GET RID OF THEM. Anyone tried anyfin? Please post!! Thank you huns
  • Aug 10, 2008, 05:37 PM
    DepressedGirl
    I'm SO glad to see all you people who understand and have this problem too!

    I've had two dark purple veins under my eyes, which look like bruises, for 7 years. Every morning I wake up, looking in the mirror and feel depressed for the whole day! They make me look tired, old and ugly and I'm only 20!

    I can't leave the house without concealer, I have to put this thick concealer under my eyes every single day to hide the dark veins under my eyes. It takes forever to apply too and if I don't get it right, it looks caked on and obvious, so then I have to take it off and start again. During the day I can't touch my eye area at all in case I accidentally rub off the concealer! ARGH. It's SO frustrating, I've become really depressed by it. :(

    I don't even show anyone, they stand out so much on my face, it's unbelievable! I've got clear light-ish skin, with two thick dark purple veins circling under my eyes.

    I've been looking online for ages but nobody seems to have the same thing, and quite honestly, I'm SO sick to death of people saying to sleep more, drink more water etc or, possibly the most annoying: "it's just your bone structure making your under eye area look dark"... No it's not! It's these dark blue/purple veins and red broken capillaries that are doing it!

    I've tried every cream I can get my hands on too, does nothing.

    I've got an appointment with the dermatologist on Thursday, I'm so nervous of showing them and taking off my concealer in front of them but I know it has to be done. I'm also SO scared that they might say they can't do anything (but thankfully this thread has given me some hope).

    I'm so desperate to get rid of them, this concealer is drying out my eye area and the more I keep rubbing this concealer on, every-single-day, my eyes are going to look old before I hit 40.

    I'm in the UK by the way
  • Aug 11, 2008, 04:40 PM
    ASH81
    Hi depressed girl

    I know how you feel. I don't wear makeup except to cover those nasty veins under my eyes. I hate it sooooooooooooooooo much that sum days I don't go out when its really obvious. I use so much concealer myself that I feel I'm just draggin my eye skin down. I wudnt dream of going out wivout my concealer!! Im also in the uk PLZZZZZZZZZZZZ LET ME KNOW HOW IT GOES WIV DERMATOLOGIST AND WHAT THEY Recommend!! Thanks hun and good luck :)
  • Aug 14, 2008, 04:34 AM
    DepressedGirl
    Hi all,
    I'm back from the dermatologist.

    I've been dreading this day for months, I had to show them my eyes, the one thing I'm so horribly self-conscious of that I won't even let my boyfriend stay over because he might see my eyes without concealer.

    I went, showed them, and guess what? They said "That is quite bad but there's nothing we can do, lasers etc won't work", "Maybe you're anemic."

    And that's it. My final result, and what can I do? CRAP ALL.

    I'm so heart broken right now, I finally thought I could get rid of this and be normal like everyone else but no, I'm going to be stuck with this all my life, and the doctor's confirmed that.

    So I've got to get blood tests done now =[ Even if I am anemic, will these thick bruises under my eyes ever go away with meds? I've lost all hope now.
  • Aug 15, 2008, 10:43 AM
    cjfox
    Hey depressed girl,
    Believe me I know how you feel, I have exactly the same problems as you including the veins, broken vessels and having to use concealer and guess what I'm a man!

    Ive seen so many people regarding this problem and have traveled to the states (im from UK). Ive researched a lot on the subject and it seems that there doesn't seem to be a true effective treatment out there, crazy in this age.

    However Im still hopeful that something soon will help. I hope it does because it affects my life on a big scale. I have found a few options which I'm considering. Get in touch
  • Aug 18, 2008, 12:24 PM
    DepressedGirl
    Hi cjfox!

    It amazes me just how little anyone can do about it right now, too. The dermatologist took just a few seconds to tell me there's nothing they can do and that laser won't work either, I really want to see another dermatologist to at least get a second opinion but I'm starting to wonder if this is it, that they're all going to tell me the same thing.

    I've tried changing my diet and sleeping habits again, though, just in case it might help (though I'm doubtful, these are broken vessels and thick veins, but I'm desperate)

    Which options are you considering?
  • Aug 18, 2008, 12:42 PM
    cjfox
    Hey,

    I'm speaking to variety of doctors, all of whom seem to be top of their game. One is Dr Seckel, type his name in Google. He has a great site and a section where he has answered a lot of questions regarding dark circles. I went to see him in Boston last year, a very nice man with a lot of experience, he actually specializes in dark circles. I have just emailed him today with some questions that could shed a lot of light.

    Its seems though that my dark cirlces are the hardest to treat. Thin skin, visible veins etc.

    Where under your eye are the veins you want to remove. I ask because I saw a sclerotherapist in London few weeks back who has had success removing these veins by injection.

    Its still a fairly new treatment to inject around the eyes but in the states it seems more widely available. Hva e alook at the before and after pics on this site...

    Laserderm.net

    Ive also spoken to other doctors on possibly using lasers to close the blue veins and a doctor in England who treats the broken veins on the skin with anew treatment.

    Are you on Facebook? I'm on there, its easier to chat on there. Ithink I might have some good options for you. Don't give up hope just yet!
  • Sep 12, 2008, 04:54 AM
    anaketina
    Hey everyone,

    I never thought someone would have the same problem as me. I am happy (not in a bad way lol), but sincerely disappointed to know that no one has fund the solution yet.

    Like you guys, I suffer every single day with my dark veins under both eyes. I tried all kinds of concealers but they really don't work.. Everyone says to me that I look tiered. I'm really sick of hearing "look at your dark circles, you must rest!".. Please please someone help me!

    I am sorry for my english lol I'm portuguese.

    In Portugal there is nothing to help me, so I am thinking of going to Uk or maybe even USA to make something about this.. yes I'm completely desperate :(

    Good luck everyone, Kiss

    Ps: se alguém them Portugal conhecer uma clínica que faça este tipo de tratamentos por favor responda a este post.
  • Sep 24, 2008, 11:16 AM
    wolfgangqpublic
    I'm in the same boat; large blue vein under my right eye. I just got back from the dermatologist and she said she can't help, but suggested an ocular surgeon. Eye surgery? Great, so now Im stuck like the rest of you... I bought a concealer today, but it doesn't do anything. Im going to resort to folk remedies like apple cider vinegar... a lot of good that will do, eh? I contacted that place in Arizona through email several times, but they never reply.
  • Sep 25, 2008, 06:11 AM
    Johnny_walts
    Hello my friend you well know that everything is risky.But life is not stopped depend on one thing.So you really remove dark blue veins under your eyes then must take the risk.you consult a proper famous dermatologist.
  • Oct 25, 2008, 01:52 PM
    Paul Morphy
    Had the same problem and don't fret there is a cure! You have to choices you can have them Laser therapy which I had done and it worked on some and also you can have Sclerotherapy done which is an injection of the vein. I had both done and my eyes look great! Dr Edward Zimmerman (702) 360-0128 does both or Dr M.H. Bashy (702)838-0444 only does Sclerotherapy.. Dr Zimmerman is the better choice. By the way they are in Las Vegas, Nevada.. So your dematologist lied to you... good luck
  • Nov 2, 2008, 07:41 PM
    Maya79
    Hi Everyone on here-

    There is help available. Have you ever heard of fat grafting? It's a procedure that takes fat from a donor sight in your body, and it used to fill parts of your face. It works for dark circles, and to cover up under eye veins. I understand what it feels like to be depressed about under eye problems. I used to cry all the time, and some days couldn't go to work. I was about 23 when they appeared (veins and dark circles), and now I'm 29.

    There is a doctor, his name is Steven Svehlak, and he practices in LA. He is flat out amazing. He is completely honest, and is down-to-earth, and incredibly talented. It took four procedures for me to look the way I do now, but I look WAY better than I used to. NOT perfect, but about 70% better.

    The fat grafting costs 500-2000 bucks based on what you need. But check out sunset cosmetic surgery's website. I researched him, and found him after seeing about 15 other doctors. I've had tons of laser treatments, tried dozens of creams, restalyne, and have been all over the country trying to find a solution to this problem. Trust me, this is as best as it gets!
    I feel so much for all of you! My heart goes out to
    You, don't give up! Much love, Maya
  • Nov 6, 2008, 10:01 PM
    kpangor

    Be careful people about treatments with laser around the eye area it might leave with serious permanent scars...
  • Dec 26, 2008, 01:37 PM
    keeptrying

    Hi everyone. I'm really surprised to find out that so many people suffer from this. I thought I was some kind of a freak! The veins under my eyes appeared when I was 13. Don't know what brought them on, one minute they weren't there, next minute they were. Since that day, I never leave the house without foundation, concealer and powder under my eyes. I'm starting to really hate it as I feel I can't do all the things I want to, i.e camping etc because I always worry about my make-up coming off and not being apply to re-apply properly.

    When I was about 19, I had laser treatment. When the consultant saw the veins, he said 'yes, they are very bad' and that he wasn't sure if the laser would work. I had it anyway and it did absolutely nothing. Then earlier this year, I went for Veinwave which is a new form of laser. The woman doing the treatment was absolutely lovely but said that the veins looked too deep to treat. She tried but once again, it did nothing (she actually gave me the treatment for free!)

    Basically, I've now learnt that laser treatment ONLY works for spider or thread veins, i.e.. Red veins which are close to the surface. If your veins are blue this means they are deeper and the laser won't work.

    So I am now considering sclerotherapy. Only thing is most places in the UK will not use this for the face, as they say it is too risky. That's why it was nice to read your info cjfox! That place looks really good and even has pics of a woman with blue undereye veins! I think your suggestion Maya79 is also good about the fat grafting but that seems like more of a serious procedure. The only prob with sclerotherapy is that I've read it can close the vein but that other ones will them open around the same area. Also, the thing that worries me is that the vein is supposed to bulge out for a few weeks-month afterwards before it vanishes so that's going to be a bit awkward at work.

    I really want to try it because I hate having to cover them up every single morning (it takes ages! ) but I'm going to do more research and maybe travel to USA for it if I can't find anyone in the UK. Has anyone had this done in the UK? If so, what was the name of the place you went to?

    Thanks! Don't give up, there's so many diff types of surgery nowadays, there's got to be sth that works on even the most unsightly under eye veins!
  • Dec 29, 2008, 02:08 PM
    wianno168
    Blue and purple color on the lower eyelids is most commonly caused by small blood vessels. I have had really good luck with IPL or Photo-facial treatments recently. Sclerotherapy is OK for large veins but the smaller matted ones are most responsible for eyelid skin color.

    I have written an article about the IPL for blue under eyes.

    Dr Seckel
  • Jan 2, 2009, 01:34 PM
    cleanlinen
    Hi .
    I am seriously relieved that I am not the only person alive with blue hideous veins.
    I am 15 and have been applying, re applying, and once again, applying foundation, and powder under my eyes for 2 years straight now. Every single day. Not ONE day I will go out without my make-up. Even when somebody comes to the door I rush to put a quick layer which looks cakey and un-natural.

    I do think I will some laser treatment done within the next few years. Hopefully during or before college. I do not want to have to struggle any more with the burden of having to have a mask under my eyes where nobody can see the real me.
    I need to get it done before college/ during college because I am going to be having interviews to become a pharmacist and a model.

    Maybe, with my luck I can find a drug to remove blue veins from everyone's under eyes and save the world!! :) hehe can you people wait maybe 5 years for another solution? Ha. You never know. I could be holding our future in my hands. I doubt it though.

    For now these few solutions are all we have to "replenish" our face and we will have to live with these options until a more new, more advanced, and more trusted solution comes out.

    I think the scipfajoidaofisdy(spelling. Haha) thingy sounds like the best option to me. I await to hear the results of many of you previous answerers.

    I do believe once we all get laser/ some different treatment done, we will be gorgeous people.. not like we aren't anyway.

    Thanks for the information and I wish you all good luck with either procedure you choose.


    "clean linen" :) p.s. I'm in the US
  • Jan 2, 2009, 01:35 PM
    cleanlinen
    Hi .
    I am seriously relieved that I am not the only person alive with blue hideous veins.
    I am 15 and have been applying, re applying, and once again, applying foundation, and powder under my eyes for 2 years straight now. Every single day. Not ONE day I will go out without my make-up. Even when somebody comes to the door I rush to put a quick layer which looks cakey and un-natural.

    I do think I will get some laser treatment done within the next few years. Hopefully during or before college. I do not want to have to struggle any more with the burden of having to have a mask under my eyes where nobody can see the real me.
    I need to get it done before college/ during college because I am going to be having interviews to become a pharmacist and a model.

    Maybe, with my luck I can find a drug to remove blue veins from everyone's under eyes and save the world!! :) hehe can you people wait maybe 5 years for another solution? Ha. You never know. I could be holding our future in my hands. I doubt it though.

    For now these few solutions are all we have to "replenish" our face and we will have to live with these options until a more new, more advanced, and more trusted solution comes out.

    I think the scipfajoidaofisdy(spelling. Haha) thingy sounds like the best option to me. I await to hear the results of many of you previous answerers.

    I do believe once we all get laser/ some different treatment done, we will be gorgeous people.. not like we aren't anyway.

    Thanks for the information and I wish you all good luck with either procedure you choose.


    "clean linen" :) p.s. I'm in the US
  • Jan 13, 2009, 09:19 AM
    Charly84ec
    Before having surgery try bathing in Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate). Soak +/-30minutes each time, don't add anything else, just 2 cups of Epsom salts. Also wash your eyes daily with the salts (morning & night). You can also put some on your eye area and put a hot towel over it, creating a mask and leaving it on for some time.
    It could be that you are getting too little sulfates in your diet (most people do and don't know) and this is causing a build-up of toxins (probably phenol) around the eye/nostrils area. Preventing a proper evacuation through the veins.
    I can't assure you that this will help for you, but it's worth a try, isn't it? Epsom salt are available at your drugstore and are very cheap. I pay around €2.5 per kilo.


    Hope it helps!
  • Jan 31, 2009, 06:58 AM
    65falcon
    Ok I have been asked for the last time... Hey who gave you the black eye. I am ready to be done with these at 43! I have had them since I can remember. I am going to try the epsom salts... but really running around getting ready for work I can't see soaking for 30 min is going to fit in my schedule! The veins are large these are not spider veins! They are real veins just as large as the one in my wrist. Some days are better than others. I am going to see a doctor about cutting them out. I believe they make two small incisions and then cauterize them and take the vein out. I would rather have two small scars that I can lather cocoa butter on than two black eyes constantly. I have to admit they are less noticeable with lots of sleep, which I don't have the luxury of right now! I will post what luck I have, but the laser is for SPIDER veins only.
  • Jan 31, 2009, 10:39 AM
    Charly84ec

    Seriously, try it! What have you got to lose? :cool:
    Also, if you want to try taking it internally. 1 TEAspoon a day in a glass of water will be sufficient, more might give you diarrhea :s
    If you don't have the time to soak for 30 minutes... try making a cream with the Epsom salts.
    Epsom Salt Recipies
    This worked for me! I had BLACK circles and a double fold under my eyes which made me look extremely tired and probably older than I really am (24 yrs). I had them forever since I was a kid and wondered why I had them as every blood test I had done came out with a "normal" result only showing an allergy to dairy which I didn't consume anyway. Well apparently my liver didn't absorb everything correctly and taking epsom salt daily has been of great benefit. After taking epsom I can eat / drink whatever I want and nothing happens. I can eat normal ice cream now and don't have to limit myself to sorbets or Popsicles!:D
    Note that it took me about 2 months to get rid of them completely, but they started fading after a 2-3 weeks or so which was very encouraging.;) I only bathe once a week in it as I am somewhat obsessive compulsive and the thought of sitting in the water is just... :mad: I did shower every day with it and put on the cream all over my body because the salts dry me out. Now I just shower with it when I remember, but I keep using the cream and take it orally every day for the benefits it has.
    I'm not assuring that this is also your case, 'cause I don't know you and don't know what you look like, but maybe you have the same problem as me and just don't know, considering that there are no symptoms!!

    If after trying this, you see no results, there's still one thing you can try!!
    A friend of mine (22 yrs) who had purple / blue / red-looking raccoon eyes with big visible veins got rid of them by taking 2 TABLEspoons of Black Strap Molasses daily. 1 First thing in the morning and 1 at night. She had read about it on earthclinic I think, but I'm not sure. Apparently Black Strap Molasses has a lot of good things in it which are ready to be absorbed by the body and don't need to be converted first as most vitamins do. Expect results after 3 weeks of taking it religiously. There is however a "negative" side to this. 1 Tablespoon of BSM contains around 50-60 calories and has a lot of sugar in it.
    My friend hasn't stopped taking it for she is afraid if she stops, the raccoon eyes might return. So I can not say whether they do or don't come back if you stop taking it.


    Hope it helps you!!

    Xoxoxoxoxo
  • Jan 31, 2009, 04:17 PM
    65falcon
    Well I am all for cheap and healthy alternatives! :) So I will try it. I think magnesium may be the reason epson salts work. So I'll check out the ingredients. Maybe I will try both, I am not concerned about calories it's not a double cheeseburger!:D Although they are definitely veins it certainly doesn't hurt to try! Thanks and I will keep you posted on the results.
  • Feb 4, 2009, 01:17 PM
    cjfox
    Okay an update from me, my name is Carlos , 32 and I live in Bristol, UK.

    As mentioned before I've been talking to several doctors including DR Brooke Seckel, Boston.USA
    DR Nick Lowe in London and also sclerotherapist in London called Phillip coleridge smith.

    I have very thin skin with red purple showing through, also reticular veins are apparent, really adding to the darkness, and I have tear trough deformity.Basically I have a triple hitter! Very hard to treat. Here's what I'm up to...

    I went to Boston in 2007 and saw Dr Seckel and he was very helpful (yes a long way to travel, but I want to solve the tired look) and had many suggestions, just wished I lived there and I wouldn't hesitate to use his services.

    He suggested possible arcus marginalis release and fat transfer to solve the hollow/ shadow look and also IPL etc. Its just very difficult and expensive to travel there every 6 weeks or so to have the laser treatments.

    I also went to see dr smith in london but regarding sclerotherapy for the veins under the eyes (dark blue veins not the red spider veins). He said he could remove the veins coming in from the temples and under the eye, but wasn't so sure about the inner corner of the eye, my main problem!), although he was willing to try. I haven't done it yet just because I'm scared of thrombosis of the cavernous sinus. But the option is there.

    At the moment I am having expensive treatments with DR Lowe in London (although IO would have rather seen DR seckel as he specializes in Dark circles). So far I have had one cynosure treatment under one eye as a test and I'm going again next week.

    The first treatment wasn't that painful and I had bruising for 3 weeks. It seemed to help a little with the spider veins and I think a slight improvement on collagen. The idea being if the collagen is stimulated enough it will thicken the skin and hide all dark colours and veins. I will keep you posted on what happens next.

    One day I will sort this hopefully sooner than later as I just want to live my life and enjoy it.

    Peace to everyone
  • Feb 11, 2009, 03:17 PM
    IndigoGuy
    I have the same problems. Blue veins, broken capillaries, dark circles... after reading tons and tons of info I've come to the conclusion that IPL, intense pulsed light is the way to go, at least for me.

    I would recommend that all of you Google search "IPL dark circles" and go from there. Dr. Seckel highly recommends IPL and it is definitely safer than laser procedures. Lasers can be pretty dangerous. I've read some HORROR stories.

    IPL baby! I get my IPL started in a couple of days. I'll post results later. Chau!
  • Feb 23, 2009, 12:29 PM
    cleanbreak
    Hi everyone -

    I've had the same affliction - hideous veins under one eye.

    I'd never thought anyone else had this curse.

    WELL, about a month ago I got fed up and did research. Tomorrow I have a treatment at the Berman Skin Institute.

    I hope so much that the coolglide laser will help. Go to the website, the pictures are AMAZING!

    I have a lot of hope that this is the way. They have all the cutting edge equipment.

    I'll let you know guys and if it works, I'll give you ALLLLL the details!

    Perhaps there is a cure for us after all!

    Can you even imagine being free of this??

    I HOPE I HOPE!
  • Feb 24, 2009, 01:43 PM
    charlize242
    Hi,

    Any news regarding your appointment with Mr. Berman?
    Did the CoolGlide Excel Laser help to remove your vein under your eye?

    Please please please let me know because I have ugly veins under both eyes
    And I would do everything to get rid of it!

    Thank you :-)
  • Feb 25, 2009, 09:54 AM
    cleanbreak
    Hi everyone!

    It worked. It totally totally worked!

    A ten second treatment and now I have the face I was always meant to have!

    Completely healed!

    Go to the Berman Skin Institute website, select treatments and look at the BEFORE and AFTERS for the CoolGlide Laser.

    I'm telling you - DO THIS! This is the cure.

    It's costly, but worth every penny because now I feel so pretty and this has changed my whole life.

    The treatment cost $850. Going out to CA cost $227. The hotel and car cost $200.

    Having my face back? PRICELESS.

    It hurts a little but it's totally bearable. Seriously guys, check into this, this is the answer to all our problems!

    If you have any questions, let me know. Take the initiative into your own hands and you can just END this problem. I am SOOOO happy I can't even tell you!

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