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  • Sep 6, 2011, 06:00 PM
    slimbs
    Sued over credit card debt
    I am being sued by a citi claiming I owe them almost $13000.00 I denied the whole thing answed the summons and sent them discovery. They inturn sent me discovery also I asled them to provide me the original cccontract with my signiture and they didn't they clain that it was attached to the summons. The only thing attached to the summons was awhat look like a statement that has my name ans address dity name and address the alleged account number summery of activity showing the lumsum amount and that sort of things they says this is a contract is it because I don't think it is. I would love to see the original agreement with my signiture on it. Do I have the right to ask for this. I did have a cc account with citi but the account they are alleging is not the same account number I have in my position dose this mean anything because this is what I have been basing everything on. Please help I would love to reply to them and soon there is not a court date yet they have askd me to call to settle or they will letigate the suit towards judgement please help. I cannot afford a lawyer and I certainly will not pay a debt that is not mine even if I was able to. Which I am not. PLEASE HELP ME RESOLVE THIS111
  • Sep 6, 2011, 08:05 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Ok, look at the statement of charges, did you go to those stores and spend and buy 13000 dollars worth.

    What was the address on the account ?

    Most credit cards are actually seldom done in a written contract, most are applied for online with online signing. So there may or may not be a real "contract" even at best normally it is a post card you sign and send back.

    If you did not make the charges, you should file a police report for stolen ID. If you did make them, you can of course still deny them, in court and make the credit card company prove they are yours. But be sure you can deny them, look at the address of the billing, ( was it yours) look at the items purchased, was it things you bought ?

    You need to decide if this is really your debt or not and then proceed in that direction with a defense.
  • Sep 7, 2011, 03:22 AM
    ScottGem
    First its not a good idea to piggyback your question on someone else's. This can lead to confusion. You should start a new thread. So I've moved your question to its own thread. {Edit, found your other post and merged them}

    Sounds like you are doing the right thing so far. Stick by your guns. Respond to their discovery and answer any questions with the stock answer: I can neither confirm nor deny this debt until I receive proof that I entered into a contract with you.

    Tell them to litigate. This is nothing to be afraid of. When you go for the hearing, you simply tell the judge, that you do not believe this account is yours and they have provided no proof that it is.
  • Sep 7, 2011, 08:19 AM
    slimbs
    Scottgm thanks for te advise I didn't know how this worked. And I will answer I intended to. Fr_chuck this is what I am saying there is nothing like that no brake down nothing just my name and an amount nothing to show how they came about that amount. And know I didn't apply for a credit card on the internet. Is here some way for me to send a copy of what they sent me I want to know exactly how to clasify it tere is no break down or anything. Please help and thanks so far
  • Sep 7, 2011, 08:34 AM
    slimbs
    Sued over credit card debt
    Thanks for your speedy reply first of all. Secondly there was no breakdown on the statement nothing. I wish three was a way for you to see it so that you can help me classify it I really want to get this right. I have five little ones and I don't need this to follow me around for ever I also want to teach them to fight for their rights
  • Sep 7, 2011, 08:41 AM
    ScottGem
    What you are describing doesn't seem to be enough to win in court. So don't sweat it. Tell them you don't believe the debt is yours and that they can't prove it is, so sue.
  • Sep 7, 2011, 08:53 AM
    slimbs
    Sued over credit card debt
    So scottgem based on what I describer to be attached to the summons would you call it a cardholder agreement because in his reply to my discovery he said the original cardholder agreement was sent o me and the plaintiff as a copy well I have nothing of the sort and why would I have the original if this is what I used to apply for the credit card wouldn't it or shouldn't it be the other way around. Based on what I described does it sound like the original card holder agreement o you cause it sure doesn't to me it has no signature or anything it looks more like a statement with no details. Thanks
  • Sep 7, 2011, 09:31 AM
    smoothy
    THis should not be posted as a new thread... it should be an answer to an existing thread... requesting they be merged.
  • Sep 7, 2011, 09:36 AM
    smoothy
    Find and answer your original thread... don't creat new threads nobody will see... requesting THIS one be merged as well.
  • Sep 7, 2011, 09:37 AM
    slimbs
    OK thank you I am sorry
  • Sep 7, 2011, 09:38 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    Maybe merged all of them /?
  • Sep 7, 2011, 09:45 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    Maybe merged all of them /??

    Apparently so, I requested to be merged into this thread.

    ... if someone can clean up my two comments to merge two separate answers into this thread please.
  • Sep 7, 2011, 09:48 AM
    slimbs
    Guys please forgive me I am really new to this I am so sorry for making a mess I will go and read the rules before I type anything else. SORRY AGAIN and thanks for the help so far. God Bless.
  • Sep 7, 2011, 09:53 AM
    slimbs
    So based on what I describer to be attached to the summons would you call it a cardholder agreement because in his reply to my discovery he said the original cardholder agreement was sent o me and the plaintiff as a copy well I have nothing of the sort and why would I have the original if this is what I used to apply for the credit card wouldn't it or shouldn't it be the other way around. Based on what I described does it sound like the original card holder agreement o you cause it sure doesn't to me it has no signature or anything it looks more like a statement with no details. Thanks
  • Sep 7, 2011, 10:06 AM
    Curlyben
    >Threads Merged<
  • Sep 7, 2011, 10:17 AM
    smoothy
    Was there ever a replacement card issued? That replacement might have been issued canceling the old card, but having a new number, but actually not being a new separate account. Meaning no new signatures, and no new contract. That can explain why numbers may not appear to match, but do. Did you ever contest these charges when you received the bills they appeared on?

    Rule #1. If this does end up in court, do NOT blow off the date... you might have an airtight case in your favor, but if you fail to show they win everything they ask for by default.
  • Sep 7, 2011, 10:28 AM
    ScottGem
    So tell them what you received does not look like a copy of an agreement and you don't believe they have proven this is your account.
  • Sep 7, 2011, 03:14 PM
    slimbs
    I never got a replacement card everything I have from them is in a folder my credit card issued me my past statements and past payments. When I stopped using the card it was not expired but up to $6000 but was having trouble paying it which is why I stopped using it. The card has a limit of 10000 limit but I know I didn't spend 10000 on it much less 13000. I wasn't trying to dispute the account I have I just wanted them to prove it was the same account and how they got to that outrageous amount.
  • Sep 7, 2011, 03:18 PM
    slimbs
    Thanks I intended to show up no matter what the worst is I loose but the best no lean or wage garnishment and this is what I am trying to avoid
  • Sep 7, 2011, 03:19 PM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by slimbs View Post
    I never got a replacement card everything I have from them is in a folder my credit card issued me my past statements and past payments. When I stopped using the card it was not expired but up to $6000 but was having trouble paying it which is why I stopped using it. The card has a limit of 10000 limit but I know I didn't spend 10000 on it much less 13000. I wasn't trying to dispute the account I have I just wanted them to prove it was the same account and how they got to that outrageous amount.

    OK, so you did have an account and had the balance up to about $6K when you defaulted. How long ago was this? Its not hard for a delinquent balance to more than double in a few years with interest and fees.
  • Sep 10, 2011, 07:03 PM
    slimbs
    Ok so I replied to the summons sent discovery and they send one back for me please I need to know when responding to the interrogatories do I respond on their paper in the space provided or should I retype it and fill I my answers or should I just answer without having there questions on the same paper
    Please help I really need to get this done and sent back thanks.
  • Sep 11, 2011, 07:29 AM
    ScottGem
    Either way is fine.
  • Sep 11, 2011, 02:43 PM
    slimbs
    Scottgem you said that it could be mine this has only been since 08 six thousand in three years really is that possible man why do people get credit cards. NEVER AGAIN. And the account numbrs being different what do you think about that. Should I ask them to prove it is mine still cause I really don't have anytjing to show that this account number is linked to mine. If they can prove their cas I will be more than willing to work somehting out but I am not going to say it is mine when don't believe that it is.
  • Sep 11, 2011, 03:09 PM
    ScottGem
    Yes, you still continue to claim that you do not believe the account is yours. And that they need to prove it is. But if its just a mixup in account numbers, they may be able to correct it. What I was saying, was, since you did default on an account, it is possible that there is just a mixup in account numbers.
  • Sep 11, 2011, 03:44 PM
    slimbs
    Man I pray to God that they cannot prove it is mine because I am unable to pay either way but I do know I will not give up without a fight. Thanks for all your help OK you are truly a blessing if it is OK I will keep you up to date to let you know what the out come is OK and if I have more questions thanks again. And God Bless you and your family it is a great thing you are doing here helping total strangers. Thanks
  • Sep 12, 2011, 07:21 AM
    slimbs
    How do I correctly respond to this interrogatory: state weather you have taken or possess any written or recorded statement, and if so,indicate the name, and address and telephone number of the person who gave this statement and the date on which the statement was given. I am not I am understanding it correctly. If some one can please help me respond to it correctly I will appreciate that
  • Sep 12, 2011, 07:27 AM
    ScottGem
    Just reply N/A or no statements are in my possession since I do not believe this debt is mine.
  • Sep 12, 2011, 07:54 AM
    slimbs
    OK thanks I will do that
  • Sep 12, 2011, 02:49 PM
    slimbs
    Plaintiff is asking for copiesof any agreement entered into in connection with the subject credit card account including any amendments or modifications thereto now I know I don't have anything of what they are asking but I need to know the proper way in which to respond please thanks
  • Sep 12, 2011, 06:46 PM
    ScottGem
    N/A-I have no knowledge of the account indicated in this suit.
  • Sep 13, 2011, 09:31 AM
    slimbs
    Thank you I objected to it all please wish me luch going to get it all notarized and send it back to them. Thanks again for everything I will keep you poasted.
  • Sep 13, 2011, 09:48 AM
    smoothy
    This almost goes without saying, but make sure you make and keep copies of everything.
  • Sep 19, 2011, 04:12 PM
    slimbs
    Thank you i did copy everything and i have it n my computer as well. I didn't get my copy notarized is that a problem.
  • Sep 19, 2011, 04:22 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    I would have done mine, computers crash and data is lost unless you use back ups.
  • Sep 19, 2011, 05:08 PM
    slimbs
    I have copies of most but my ink ran iut but will get on paper thanks and can i still get the copy notarized no problem
  • Sep 19, 2011, 05:26 PM
    ScottGem
    Notarization does nothing for you. A notary has no idea of the authenticity of the documents.
  • Oct 9, 2011, 06:56 PM
    slimbs
    Ok I have answered their interrogatories and nothing how long does the usually take what's next
  • Jan 6, 2012, 07:07 AM
    slimbs
    Ok they finally replied and now they have asked for a final court ruling also they have an affidavit and they have the statements with the previous account number which proves that this is my debt what is my next move please I don't see a court date on any of the papers should there be a court date. If yes where do I find it and what do I tell the court when I get there. Thank you will really appreciate a speedy response.
  • Jan 6, 2012, 08:28 AM
    ScottGem
    So this IS your debt? Then I would try to negotiate a settlement or payment plan.

    Check with the court to see if a court date has been set. If not, then work with them on a settlement. Get whatever you agree on IN WRITING. Once you have an agreement, both of you contact the court to dismiss the suit.
  • Jan 6, 2012, 08:37 AM
    slimbs
    First of all thank you for your speedy reply. Now please let me get this straight contact the court in which the suit was filed to see if a court date was set; If not then contact the lawyer and try to work out a settlement if we come up with a settlement then get it in writing and contact the court both them and myself to get the suit dismissed is this correct?

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