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  • Oct 21, 2007, 10:20 PM
    cal823
    Ummmmm I am in art class at school but I've been drawing my whole life. Art class is great because it has exposed me to new mediums that I haven't used before, though I started being a good artist in year 9 when I was exposed to charcoals, then in yr 10 and 11 when we got to use pastels in art, and this year when I found the fineline pens in the art room and became addicted :) having an art teacher, and access to different mediums has been a great thing for me :)
  • Oct 21, 2007, 10:22 PM
    Clough
    jrebel7
  • Oct 21, 2007, 10:25 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cal823
    ummmmm i am in art class at school but ive been drawing my whole life. art class is great coz it has exposed me to new mediums that i havnt used before, tho i started being a good artist in year 9 when i was exposed to charcoals, then in yr 10 and 11 when we got to use pastels in art, and this year when i found the fineline pens in the art room and became addicted :) having an art teacher, and access to different mediums has been a great thing for me :)

    That's great! Have you done any calligraphy? I studied calligraphy with the late Father Catich at St. Ambrose College in Davenport, IA, U.S.A.
  • Oct 21, 2007, 10:30 PM
    jrebel7
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    Clough, I thought you might get a laugh out of this posting. I did this piece in high school so does that tell you how long ago that might have been? I play "at" the piano, ukulele, and guitar. I always wanted to learn to play the drums and who knows, I may still yet!

    I don't expect any raves on this piece by any means but it was a fun little India Ink piece and with your love for musical instruments, thought you might get a hoot out of seeing this one. At the time I did this, of course, I was quite excited about it!! LOL :)
  • Oct 21, 2007, 10:38 PM
    erlobenauer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by firmbeliever
    First one is a pastel crayon attempt and the second one is pencil colour.

    Both were done looking at photographs.All of my work in these posts are from the same year.

    Sorry to have posted so many,but I had some free time and was inspired:D to search these out and post them.:eek:


    I just love the boat. Im thrilled at such amazing work being posted here. Keep 'em coming!

    Erica :)
  • Oct 21, 2007, 10:44 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrebel7
    Clough, I thought you might get a laugh out of this posting. I did this piece in high school so does that tell you how long ago that might have been? I play "at" the piano, ukelele, and guitar. I always wanted to learn to play the drums and who knows, I may still yet!

    I don't expect any raves on this piece by any means but it was a fun little India Ink piece and with your love for musical instruments, thought you might get a hoot out of seeing this one. At the time I did this, of course, I was quite excited about it!!!!! LOL :)

    I do very much appreciate it! :) Looks very much like Picasso! Was he one of your relatives? :D

    I especially like the folk instrument element in it, and that you have tied various aspects of music into one whole unit!
  • Oct 21, 2007, 10:53 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrebel7
    Clough, I thought you might get a laugh out of this posting. I did this piece in high school so does that tell you how long ago that might have been? I play "at" the piano, ukelele, and guitar. I always wanted to learn to play the drums and who knows, I may still yet!

    I don't expect any raves on this piece by any means but it was a fun little India Ink piece and with your love for musical instruments, thought you might get a hoot out of seeing this one. At the time I did this, of course, I was quite excited about it!!!!! LOL :)

    There is also unity, harmony and discordance (dissonance) in the work. Very much the way that music is!

    So you do play a number of instruments, eh?

    "We are never through." That's the only thing that I can remember of something that my 7th grade English teacher said, other than one of my brother's friends had decked the teacher about seven years earlier! :p (That was junior high in a very rough school!)

    At least I learned something from that teacher! Oh, yeah! I just remembered that his name was Mr. Johnson.

    "We are never through." I would also add, that we are never too old to start learning how to do art and/or music as long as we are physically and mentally okay.
  • Oct 21, 2007, 10:54 PM
    jrebel7
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    Before leaving for the night, thought I would post a bit more art work. I have enjoyed viewing everyone's art on here over and over. I am posting a "wooden spool". If anyone can tell me where this type of spool might have came from, I would love to know. I have lots of different shaped ones and wondered if they were used in factories. The "John Wayne" piece was done for the Director where I worked but given as a gift from the whole "Employee of the Year" committee. The committee paid for having it matted and framed. The director had John Wayne stuff everywhere in his office and when it was presented to him, this big ol' 6'4 man cried. I hope it was because he liked it!! I could criticize it to death but won't. Didn't have enough time to do it right but here it is from a few years ago. For some reason, it seems I can't get one of them posted. If it isn't on post or if it is on twice, I will try to correct. The "John Wayne" drawing is just a photo of the drawing. I had not started having prints of my work made at the time I did this piece.
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:00 PM
    Clough
    I knew that some more images of awesome work were on there way. From your profile:

    Quote:

    Last Activity: Today 11:53 PM
    Managing Attachments @ 11:53 PM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrebel7
    Before leaving for the night, thought I would post a bit more art work. I have enjoyed viewing everyone's art on here over and over. I am posting a "wooden spool". If anyone can tell me where this type of spool might have came from, I would love to know. I have lots of different shaped ones and wondered if they were used in factories. Me: Probably. Depends on how large they are. The "John Wayne" piece was done for the Director where I worked but given as a gift from the whole "Employee of the Year" committee. The committee paid for having it matted and framed. The director had John Wayne stuff everywhere in his office and when it was presented to him, this big ol' 6'4 man cried. I hope it was because he liked it!! I could criticize it to death but won't. Me: Please don't, because it's great stuff. Such a nice thing to for your Director. Didn't have enough time to do it right but here it is from a few years ago. For some reason, it seems I can't get one of them posted. If it isn't on post or if it is on twice, I will try to correct. The "John Wayne" drawing is just a photo of the drawing. I had not started having prints of my work made at the time I did this piece.

  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:07 PM
    jrebel7
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough
    I do very much appreciate it! :) Looks very much like Picasso! Was he one of your relatives? :D

    Distant cousin twice removed!! LOL :) NOT :p

    My ninth grade art teacher went around to some of the students saying whether we should continue with art or not. She told me, "You have no creative ability. You should not continue in art!" Cut and dried and that was that. You know, she was right in some ways and I knew that. I am not terribly creative. I can look at a photo and do a drawing or paint a place I would like to be but have not ever seen but in all reality I am not real creative. However, because I have a stubbornness in me, not to give up, and had and have such a love for art, I have continued on. I think the teacher could have been kinder but that was that and I here I am. In college, one of my art professors asked if I would be able to go on to a specific university in our state so I guess he believed in me a little.
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:08 PM
    jrebel7
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by erlobenauer
    I just love the boat. Im thrilled at such amazing work being posted here. Keep 'em coming!

    Erica :)

    Didn't you think the water was amazing??
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:19 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrebel7
    Distant cousin twice removed!!! LOL :) NOT :p

    My ninth grade art teacher went around to some of the students saying whether we should continue with art or not. She told me, "You have no creative ability. You should not continue in art!" Cut and dried and that was that. You know, she was right in some ways and I knew that. Me: There are so many teachers who should not be teaching! I would never say something to a student like that! We all have been given the ability to do the same things. It's just that not all of us are "born" with a Stradivarius for an instrument with which to work. I am not terribly creative. Me: I'm glad that you said that. Becuase you are exceptionally creative and not terribly creative! I can look at a photo and do a drawing or paint a place I would like to be but have not ever seen but in all reality I am not real creative. You beat yourself up because of the bad things that one person in your youth, who's opinion meant a lot to you said. In high school, I was told that as far as college was concerned, "guys like you don't usually make it." I never forgot what he said, and proved him wrong! However, because I have a stubbornness in me, not to give up, and had and have such a love for art, I have continued on. Me: A lot of people have no love for art. It is a gift that you have been given. I would say that you have been given a Stradivarius for an instrument to use! I think the teacher could have been kinder but that was that and I here I am. In college, one of my art professors asked if I would be able to go on to a specific university in our state so I guess he believed in me a little.

    I believe in you, Jan!!
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:20 PM
    cal823
    I haven't tried calligraphy, I do have a japanese calligraphy set which I have no idea how to use.jrebel that music one is amazing! And the skill you have with drawing in the john wayne one is fantastic!
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:27 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cal823
    i havnt tried caligraphy, i do have a japanese caligraphy set which i have no idea how to use.jrebel that music one is amazing! and the skill you have with drawing in the john wayne one is fantastic!

    Do you mean the style that uses brushes? Are there instructions that came with the set?
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:32 PM
    jrebel7
    What a great way to end my evening!

    Clough, thank you for believing in me! Tears are close to falling! You caught me off guard! Think what I would have missed had you not directed me to this thread. Thank you so much!

    Cal, your words are special to me. As I said earlier, I think we are kindred spirits. We may be years apart but certainly not worlds apart! We share a love of art and that brings us all together!

    Good night for now. Thank you both! I hope I can be a blessing to each of you as we continue to share our common bond, love for the arts!
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:32 PM
    cal823
    Ummmm I don't think instructions came with it.
    I has like a 2 part brush that clips together sort of, and a few other little things with it. When I get home ill send a photo of it.
    Edit- aaaww just saw what you just said jrebel thank you so much, you are a very special person and a very special artist :)
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:36 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by firmbeliever
    First one is a pastel crayon attempt and the second one is pencil colour.

    Both were done looking at photographs.All of my work in these posts are from the same year.

    Sorry to have posted so many,but I had some free time and was inspired to search these out and post them.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by erlobenauer
    I just love the boat. Im thrilled at such amazing work being posted here. Keep 'em coming!

    Erica :)

    I'm glad that you came back, Erica! We would love to see more of your work! :)
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:38 PM
    cal823
    I agree with clough :) lets see more of your art erica:)
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:42 PM
    erlobenauer
    I "plan" to get another started today, my unicorn got tampered with by my 3 year old - so I'm sure you can imagine what it looks like now. Bare with me, although I'm getting a little discouraged at myself. My drawings aren't coming out near what I want them to - for me, they just aren't good enough. I know I've taken no classes, and have very little experience, but I expect more out of myself. AHHH!! Aggravation has kicked in, and its kicking my butt. SOON I hope - to post more that is. Hugs all!

    P.S. I LOVE this Thread - and all of you amazing artists. I look forward to getting on here everyday :)
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:42 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cal823
    ummmm i dont think instructions came with it.
    i has like a 2 part brush that clips together sorta, and a few other little things with it. when i get home ill send a photo of it.
    edit- aaaww just saw what u just said jrebel thank you so much, you are a very special person and a very special artist :)

    Sounds good and please do!

    If it's Japanese than it is probably meant to write the Japanese characters for their language. I haven't studied that, yet.

    What I studied was using calligraphy pens and writing the English alphabet in words in an artful way. I got so that I can shape my own nibs for the pens to the desired cant.

    You can also do the same thing to brushes. That is, to shape them to how you want them to be shaped.
  • Oct 21, 2007, 11:52 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by erlobenauer
    I "plan" to get another started today, my unicorn got tampered with by my 3 year old - so I'm sure you can imagine what it looks like now. .... SOON I hope - to post more that is. Hugs all!

    P.S. I LOVE this Thread - and all of you amazing artists. I look forward to getting on here everyday :)

    Ah, a joint collaboration with a member of your family! Might be a real winner! :D

    How many children do you have? I have two.
  • Oct 22, 2007, 12:03 AM
    erlobenauer
    Clough- lol, collaboration is right! I have two as well, 3 and 1 1/2!!
  • Oct 22, 2007, 12:12 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by erlobenauer
    clough- lol, collaboration is right! I have two as well, 3 and 1 1/2 !!!

    Ah! I remember those days of having young children!

    I think that I have said this before to you in another post somewhere, Erica. But, I would like to repeat it. I really like your signature!

    "If you do not love me at my worst, you do not deserve me at my best."

    Truly, what we write about ourselves is also an art!
  • Oct 22, 2007, 12:41 AM
    erlobenauer
    I love that saying too, I found it on Lovingyou.com a long long time ago. I've never written anything - but I did find inspiration to write my husband a poem a few weeks ago, it came out OK I guess... lol --- do you write??
  • Oct 22, 2007, 12:53 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by erlobenauer
    I love that saying too, i found it on Lovingyou.com a long long time ago. I've never written anything - but I did find inspiration to write my husband a poem a few weeks ago, it came out ok i guess...lol --- do you write???

    Yes, I do write. I have written some shows for students to perform. Also, I do write poetry. But, when I write poetry, I usually have to be very inspired, like when I am in love with someone. Poetry just doesn't flow out of me as easily as other creative arts do.

    By-the-way, it's also okay to post things on this thread about things that you have written. That is also a form of art.
  • Oct 22, 2007, 01:22 AM
    erlobenauer
    I might do that, but Im quite self conscious about that!! Have you posted any of your writings?
  • Oct 22, 2007, 01:35 AM
    firmbeliever
    Japanese Calligraphy
    Asian Brush Art- Translatel Your Name, Phrases as Japanese Calligraphy via JPG Images
    Bamboo Art in Japan
    Cal, this one is for you.

    JR,
    I love the musical mixed art of yours.
    I love the (spindle?was it?).I love doing fine details on small objects.


    Erica,
    I admire you trying out portraits, I could never do them justice,so I quit and I found out that I am not meant to be good at portraits.:)

    Clough,
    Would love to see some of your poetry,I love reading poetry too.

    Grammadidi,Chek,Meterre, where are you ?
  • Oct 22, 2007, 02:05 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by firmbeliever
    Japanese Calligraphy
    Asian Brush Art- Translatel Your Name, Phrases as Japanese Calligraphy via JPG Images
    Bamboo Art in Japan
    Cal, this one is for you.

    JR,
    I love the musical mixed art of yours.
    I love the (spindle?was it?).I love doing fine details on small objects.


    Erica,
    I admire you trying out portraits, I could never do them justice,so I quit and I found out that I am not meant to be good at portraits.:)

    Clough,
    Would love to see some of your poetry,I love reading poetry too.

    Grammadidi,Chek,Meterre, where are you ?

    Dear firmbeliever,

    Ah, I can see that you now have some catching up to do here! :) It is also way past the time that I should be in bed!

    Concerning your doing portraits, I just have one thing to say, and that is that perfect practice makes perfect, not just practice makes perfect, for there are many wrong ways to practice anything. At one time, I thought that I was not meant to be a singer. Now, because of taking voice lessons and having worked with most of the finest vocal teachers in the area and gaining insight as to what to do with the voice, I can now say that I am also a singer.

    I also don't do portraits in what I might draw. But, given time and the right amount of perfect practice, I am sure that I could do them. Have I been endowed with a Stradivaius as far as the ability to do them? In my opinion, probably not. But, you never know until you try...

    Grammadidi has some things happening whereas she won't be quite as available on this site for about a week. Concerning Chek and Meterre, I wonder where they are also.

    Poetry by me? We'll have to talk about that...

    I can see where someone just coming onto this post might be intimidated because of all of the information that there is on it. I know that I am less likely to respond to a post where there have already been a whole bunch of answers.

    So maybe it would be wise, to just every once in a while, put a short post in that simply says something like,

    "All are welcome to continue posting here. We would love to see and find out about the artist in you!"

    Quote:

    I love the (spindle?was it?).I love doing fine details on small objects.
    Can you do drawings on grains of rice like some supposedly can? :p

    Craig
  • Oct 22, 2007, 02:07 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by erlobenauer
    I might do that, but Im quite self conscious about that !!!! Have you posted any of your writings?

    I also, am quite self-conscious about that! It's really personal stuff that concerns love...
  • Oct 22, 2007, 02:13 AM
    erlobenauer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough
    I also, am quite self-conscious about that! It's really personal stuff that concerns love...


    Same here... I can write a really powerful letter, but when it comes to writing poetry and anything else for that matter, its just rattling on about things that begin to not make any sense. LOL - anyhow, I think I might put it up...
  • Oct 22, 2007, 02:18 AM
    erlobenauer
    You have my heart

    And the key to my soul

    You're everything I've ever wanted

    And yet so much more

    My time with you,

    Is never enough

    As I find myself longing

    For the feel of your touch.

    I know I take for granted

    The love that we share

    And its not that I don't want it

    But because I"m so scared

    I love you more

    than any words could say

    for within you -

    I've also found my best friend

    I want to be better

    more trusting and true

    just give me the chance

    and I'll prove this to you

    Dont give up on me

    and I"ll never give up on you

    Because if I ever lost you

    My world would be incomlete

    Boy - I'd forget how to breathe


    Ok... so its kind of an immature writing really. LOL But at least it will make someone laugh I'm sure :)
  • Oct 22, 2007, 02:42 AM
    cal823
    Nice poem erlo :)
    Thanks for the links firm, will read them when I finish my homework :s
    I tend to be self conscious about my poems too, when they about love.
    I mite post some of mine on here along with my art, I'm an okayish poet maybe, some can be very depressing though :(
  • Oct 22, 2007, 03:00 AM
    Clough
    I'm going to have to disagree with you that it is immature. It is a song from your heart, that can happen at any age as concerning love. It has depth and soul and shows a caring about someone according to how you feel. For each of us, that is something very personal and unique. Really, it about makes me cry, because of the experiences that I have had with love. It does touch me. It's very much like some of the things that I have written, only mine are a little more pointed. So much so, that I wouldn't feel comfortable sharing them here. I would rather share the other types of art in which I am involved.

    Besides that, I would have to find them first! And, that would take a long time. I think that they are up in my attic, somewhere. They are about loves of the past, still sometimes in my mind, but for now, stored up in the attic - literally and figuratively!

    Now, I should be in bed! And, I have just gotten a private message from some young lady who has been yearning for help in finding answers with her life as concerning relationships; was treated very rudely when she first posted and I stepped in to try and calm things down some, and also got treated very rudely.

    Would you like to help, please?
  • Oct 22, 2007, 03:01 AM
    Clough
    Either of you?
  • Oct 22, 2007, 03:20 AM
    cal823
    Ummmmmm I don't know what I can do id need more info on what happened and what her issues is. If you can direct me to her post?
    Depends on what the problems are, I mite be able to provde some help or encouragement.
  • Oct 22, 2007, 03:28 AM
    erlobenauer
    Well what's the matter? Why the rudeness ? Let us know what you need! I'd be glad to help!
  • Oct 22, 2007, 03:31 AM
    erlobenauer
    And Cloguh - I understand and totally respect your feelings about posting your poetry for the public to view. It's a very personal thing - and I'm sure you have some GREAT poetry stored in that Attic! Share anything else though, I'm sure its all fantastic :)
  • Oct 22, 2007, 03:33 AM
    cal823
    Clough... the idea of a person being rude to someone who needs help, and to a wonderful person like you, is just appalling!
  • Oct 22, 2007, 03:37 AM
    erlobenauer
    CAL823 - I saw above something about homework - are you in college??

    Hope Im not being too nosey, I was just curious!
  • Oct 22, 2007, 03:38 AM
    Clough
    Thanks, Cal and Erica! This is the link to the post. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/mental...an-142055.html If you or anyone else decides to become involved, then please be sure to read all of the posts on that thread. Thank you!

    This is for anyone who is interested. It is your choice. Please don't feel guilty if you decide to not get involved. I'm just trying to gather together the forces and expertise to help someone in need.

    There are certain people that I call in to help with certain posts that are difficult that have to do with some personal, emotional issues. At least one of them has been a part of this post. I have done this a number of times in the past many months with great success. It is part of the reason that this site is so good! There really is much sharing and caring going on here!

    I am posting this here because we are a bunch of people who care about each other and what each other does. It's kind of a given thing in the arts, and that is to care about and support one another. I am sure that is one of the reasons that only certain people have been involved in this post.

    I have not answered her private message yet. She currently has logged off since posting the private message. The private message is that she is reaching out to see if she needs to work on herself.

    Thank you!

    Craig

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