Just want to thank Scottfamily 8 for the help!! And to confirm the final screw is a star screw - and of a smaller bit size than the other 4.
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Just want to thank Scottfamily 8 for the help!! And to confirm the final screw is a star screw - and of a smaller bit size than the other 4.
My Kenmore dishwasher was not cleaning items on the top shelf, and its 2 years old. Here are a few things I found:
1- My top shelf has 2 heights. When the shelf is pushed in, the washer spinner has the option of a high water hookup or a low water hookup. While one push-in water hookup is in use, the other is self sealing with a soft rubber "trap door". When I pulled it out, it was not completely sealing, so I permanently plugged it so it wouldn't leak. (If I change the shelf height, I'll have to move the plug).
2- When I took out the lower shelf, and removed the lower spinner, I was confronted with 4 screws. They should be common screws, but Sears puts in Torx screws to prevent DIY's from gaining access. Fortunately, I had the correct screw driver (#20). After removing the lower pump cover, I found what appeared to be a loose quarter-sized fine mesh filter totally caked. I could not find where it came from, so it was either from the dishwasher or from somewhere besides the dishwasher. After cleaning out the debris in the lower housing, I put everything back together, and voilą, it cleans like a charm. I'll report back in 2 weeks with a progress report.
This worked perfectly for us... It was easy and so simple.. I couldn't believe it was something like a toothpick and paper stopping the water flow? But it was... Thank you, thank you, thank you..
P.S. I hate Sears too :o)
These answers got me off to a good start. My Kenmore swore it was self cleaning. Alas.
1)I ended up removing the two plastic grid covers from the middle and back of the machine. Besides the heating coil, they were the only things with hex nuts that you COULD remove.
2) I scrubbed the underside of both of these covers. The center one was NASTY.
3) The center cover reveled a secondary smaller cover that pulled right out. Underneath it was a small silicone well filled with fairly nasty water. I sponged that out and found a lot of debris.
4) After I got all the water and floaters out of the center well, I felt around for the inlet. I found it and discovered several bits of cellophane lodged in the drain screen. I cleaned these all out.
5) I resembled as necessary and ran an empty load with some vinegar.
The results were FANTASTIC! My dishes ACTUALLY come clean! I shouldn't be so amazed, but it has been a long time for this dud of a dishwasher.
I did it! I had to make 3 trips to the hardware store, had one site visit by my brother-in-law, I cut two fingers on glass and I may have to go to the ER for a stitch, but I got it done. Oh, and I dropped a screw through the filter plate openings! But I found it after pulling off the filter plate.
The TORX star screw drivers I had to use for a Whirlpool Quiet Partner III were a 20 for the 4 screws holding down the filter plate after you move the sprayer arm out of the way, and a 15 for the one screw holding down the housing to the grinder assembly.
Your advice about using a Shop Vac was where I went wrong. I had loaned it to said brother-in-law the day before, he burned up the motor, so I used my fingers to try and get crap out of the grinder filter location. Bad idea, there was glass in there, and I really cut my fingers good. So use a Shop Vac and TORX 15 and 20 star screw drivers, and you CAN DO THIS!
Susan
Oh, I forgot to say that the original issue was top rack not cleaning, water pressure was less and less until it just stopped spraying. Then bottom sprayer arm stopped as well, dishes were dirty and unwashed at the end of a cycle. And getting the glass, chicken bones, plastic bits from containers and forks out of there is what fixed the dishwasher. Susan
Thank you, I did what was said and I found the following: 3 fake fingernails, cherry seeds, plastic bread tie, string, 2 q-tips (not kidding) and other junk now it pumps a good stream and the dishes are supper clean... thank you, thank you
Just did this. Worked like a champ. Thanks for the advice.
Darin
Here is a video of how to take it apart...
http://www.handyguyspodcast.com/462/episode-73-fixing-a-kenmore-elite-dishwasher-that-is-not-cleaning-dishes/
I also dropped a screw the last time.
I have a magnet at the end of an extension type rod that brought right out.
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Thank you so very much! Fixed thanks to these great directions. Thanks Scottfamily8. Tip for those reassembly issues- take a picture with your digital camera or video as you take each piece apart. It helps when you need to put it all back together!
Thanks for this thread! Mine was jammed up with popcorn kernels. Saved me a bunch of time and money and now I don't hate my dishwasher anymore!
You ROCK!! This is exactly what I was looking for!!
I have a quite guard 3 dishwasher. And need ti reset the panel. Can you give me the 3button sequence?
The Kenmore Ultra Wash Quiet Guard is a piece of . We did exactly what you explained and it still does not work. Thank you for your help. I have never liked Sears Appliances or Sears. They are rip off artists. Unfortunately we are living in a rental house and the landlord is a selfish cheap . He thinks it works great. He is from Korea.
To remove the lower arm: hold the tab at the top of the arm with pliers or other instrument then turn the arm off. (if it gets stuck, you can chisel it off, $30 for a new one)
You need to take off all the sprayer arm components (including the top one) to get the lower assembly apart.
Then just keep taking parts off until you can see the impeller. Dig out all the stuff in there. I would sop up the water so you can see if there is any glass is in there (there was in mine).
Good luck
Scottfamily8 IS AWESOME!! Tried his solution, found all sorts of trash, including a screw from something else entirely. Personally, I like number steps so:
- Remove plastic caps off rails by pinching top inside of clip and lifting, and then remove both upper and lower dish trays (upper requires
- Remove lower washer arm by turning plastic nob in center clockwise (I had to use channel locks).
- Remove water track to upper arm by removing (2) phillips head screws
- Separate upper water track from pump discharge track by lifting tab on pump discharge track.
- Rotate pump discharge track approx 45 degrees clockwise and lift out
- Remove (4) star screws from screen and lift screen to remove
- (Fine filter screen is a friction fit and can be removed simply by lifting)
- Check Fine filter screen and screen holder for debris
- With a flashlight, use Wet/Dry VAC to clean debris from top of pump housing.
- The lowest part of the pump housing is the pump suction. I had to use thin needle-nose plyers to get various foreign object from the pump suction/inlet. Pay close attention here, this is where all the nasties are that my be causing your problem.
- Additionally, pay attention to the decline races atop the pump housing, they have 3 plastic fingers which do course filtering, lots of stuff gets stuck there as well.
- Reassemble in reverse order. When you've replaced the screen with the (4) star screws, I recommend placing a towel down prior to replacing the (2) phillip screws, I almost dropped on back into the pump suction necessitating removal again.
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