Are we seeing a complete disconnect between perceived reality and scientific fact, or is it merely a change in semantic usage.
The old Sex and Gender topic yet again.

Are Sex and Gender the same and interchangeable or separate and distinct ?
Should we, as the general public, respect each and everyone's personal choice of pronoun, or address people as they present ?
Are pronouns, especially neo-pronouns, becoming an extension of people's names ?
Has the whole feeling of individual entitlement gone far to far ?

I'm actually looking for a discussion, not more rhetoric.

I'll just move and bump this one as I'm actually interested in other's views.

Has the whole feeling of individual entitlement gone far to far ?That's a great question. It goes back, at some level, to Jordan Peterson's argument with the Canadian government trying to compel their people to address deceived people in a certain, government-prescribed manner. We have to absolutely resist that.

Are Sex and Gender the same and interchangeable or separate and distinct ?
Sex is what one sees when someone is naked. Gender is what that naked person's brain says.

Should we, as the general public, respect each and everyone's personal choice of pronoun, or address people as they present ?
Sure. Why shouldn't we? It's really not difficult! (And for jlisenbe, it gives me an opportunity to love unconditionally and to tell the individual about His love.)

Sex is what one sees when someone is naked. Gender is what that naked person's brain says.A completely made-up set of daffynitions only brought about recently by the transgender movements desire to normalize their mental delusions. The truth is that gender and sex have been somewhat synonymous for several centuries, the distinction being that gender is used more as a class or group word while sex has been used to refer more to the reproductive functions. So we would say, "Two people were having sex (not gender) in the movie last night," while a man might would say, "I am of the male gender (not sex)." Sex can be used to refer to the functions of the pistil and stamen of a flower while gender typically would be more limited only to humans. Reproduction not involving male and female is known as asexual reproduction, not agender reproduction. Both words are objective, not subjective.

This desire to normalize and defend the TG movement is also why we now have a female Supreme Court member who can't figure out what it means to be a woman.

A man is a man, and a woman is a woman. Claiming otherwise is magical thinking, fine for one to indulge personally . Buta mistake culturally and societally . While conservatives celebrate the differences the progressives want to deny the differences because it contradicts their utopian egalitarianism by denying gender roles.

It denies basic biology. For a man to become a "woman" or a woman become a "man" requires mutualization and sterilization. Biologically humans need to procreate to survive as a species .

But gender advocates began teaching otherwise. Berkley professor Judith Butler (author of 'Gender Trouble: Feminism and the Subversion of Identity') wrote that “gender is in no way a stable identity or locus of agency.”
Performative Acts and Gender Constitution: An Essay in Phenomenology and Feminist Theory | Trans Reads (https://transreads.org/performative-acts-and-gender-constitution/)

In reality she promotes the idea that gender, and sex are oppressive social constructs. She then combines that with other radical leftist theories such as critical race theory(CRT). “The question of who and what is considered real and true is … a question of power.”

The Question of Power and Authority in Gender Performance: (gla.ac.uk) (https://www.gla.ac.uk/media/Media_41211_smxx.pdf)

It is the Marxist struggle taken beyond economics .



'There is no theory which accounts for the oppression of women—in its endless variety and monotonous similarity, cross-culturally and throughout history—with anything like the explanatory power of the Marxist theory of class oppression.”
RUBtti.pdf (philpapers.org) (https://philpapers.org/archive/RUBtti.pdf)

They can then lump all people who oppose their theories as the oppressor class which fits in perfectly in a Marxist viewpoint.

Transgender Marxism (plutobooks.com) (https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745341668/transgender-marxism/)

the progressives want to deny the differences because it contradicts their utopian egalitarianism like denying gender roles.I think it also includes a desire to be seen as the newly enlightened class.

When men can be women and women can be men, then all delusions become possible. Wonder what's next? The battle to affirm the basic humanity of the unborn continues. We have managed to build a somewhat fragile wall there. If it falls, then what group would be next?


They can then lump all people who oppose their theories as the oppressor class which fits in perfectly in a Marxist viewpoint.That's a really good point. It's the use of deceit to advance a cause. The real question is, what cause are they truly trying to advance? It usually comes down to some level of personal benefit.

“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “who is to be master – that's all.”

Yes indeed. We were founded on the concept that each person is largely to be his/her own master. That is slipping away.

I pray that you all will become transgender when we're given the empathy test before we're allowed into heaven.

There is no empathy test.

There is no empathy test.
Gabriel hasn't told you about it yet?! It starts in this life and ends with a final score before you are allowed to cross the Rainbow Bridge.

So, zero basis in reality, it would appear.
Must say I'm slightly shocked, but not unduly surprised.

So, zero basis in reality, it would appear.
Must say I'm slightly shocked, but not unduly surprised.
Just you wait! What fun we will have!!!

So, zero basis in reality, it would appear.That's about it. The support for TG consists of inventing evidence and then presenting it as truth as well as redefining words away from their historically understood meanings.

That's about it. The support for TG consists of inventing evidence and then presenting it as truth as well as redefining words away from their historically understood meanings.
Please have a conversation with someoe who has completed the trans change. Ask why the need in the first place. Find out what is done and why and how. Ask about emotional and physical issues and how this has greatly improved life.

My area is dealing with men who are in drug/alcohol addiction. They all have stories, and many of them are heart rending. That does not change the fact that addiction is bad and men need to escape from it. So your suggestion adds absolutely nothing to the conversation other than to point out that TG people, like many other groups, have emotionally gripping stories. It does not mean they have, in any way, changed from male to female or vice-versa.

'emotional and physical issues' that would be better solved with less extreme measures than mutilation and sterilization

To be clear, my heart goes out to these people, just as my heart goes out to a man caught in addiction who leaves our program to return to a world where, in his entire adult life, he has known nothing but the world of addiction, and I know the odds are pretty significant that he will return to that life. It's tragic, but it doesn't mean I pat him on the back and assure him that drug addiction is really a quite wonderful thing.

'emotional and physical issues' that would be better solved with less extreme measures than mutilation and sterilization
Those have been tried and don't work. The issues are created by... heck, I'll dig out the explanation that a trans woman gave me and post it
here.

You'll dig out the explanation offered up by a woman afflicted with TG? Kind of don't think that will qualify as either unbiased or scientific.

You'll dig out the explanation offered up by a woman afflicted with TG? Kind of don't think that will qualify as either unbiased or scientific.
What will you accept? (Actually it was a man who knew by age 7 that "he" was female, and took all the correct steps to make the change.)

You chose to be male? When did you make that choice?

UN Women's UK chapter was founded in 2010 . The mission of the agency is for "gender equality and the empowerment of women and girls" .
United Nations: Gender equality and women's empowerment (https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/gender-equality/)

So how did the UK branch choose to empower women and girls ?

They appointed a transformer model as their ambassador.

17 groups representing REAL women penned a letter of opposition

A letter to UN Women from UK campaign groups | Fair Play For Women (https://fairplayforwomen.com/a-letter-to-un-women-this-male-does-not-represent-us/)

On top of the fact that he is not a woman ; He has used his celebrity in the past to make racist comments .

I'll say it again. The transformer movement has set back women's rights back years

What will you accept?That which is not based upon the biased, non-scientific account of one person.

I read a book recently about a woman who was a radical lesbian activist. She had her PhD and was a wheel in a major university, leading the movement for "gay rights". But then she met a pastor who introduced her to Jesus and her life changed. She married a man and had two children. She still sometimes has desire for women, but she put that aside to follow a greater desire and a much greater truth. Her story is the story of one person, just like the person you mentioned was just one individual. So will you accept her story as the norm for all lesbian women?


I'll say it again. The transformer movement has set back women's rights back yearsPerhaps that is because the women's rights movement eventually devolved into something that was nothing more than a reactionary political movement that wasn't so much about women's rights as it was about power.

So will you accept her story as the norm for all lesbian women?
Obviously, she is bi, not 100% lesbian.

Obviously, she is bi, not 100% lesbian.Nope. She was never interested in men. She married and had children because of her commitment to Christ which, I think, is something you are not familiar with, or you would not have made the comment you posted.

I guess, especially for Wondergirl, the question now is, What is a woman ?

Also a biological man, that displays as male, yet identifies female and dresses as a woman, how do we address them ?
The term used to be transvestite, but I guess that's no longer allowed.

A transvestite (e.g., a drag queen) is NOT a transgender, not in any way, shape or form.

A transvestite (e.g., a drag queen) is NOT a transgender, not in any way, shape or form.

and.....

According to an online dictionary (Merriam-Webster), a transvestite is:

a person who wears clothes designed for the opposite sex : a cross-dresser.

The person has a choice in the matter.
**********
The same dictionary defines transgender:

of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity is opposite the sex the person was identified as having at birth.

The person doesn't have a choice in the matter.

The person has a choice in the matter.Everyone has a choice. The TV can just as effectively argue that he was supposedly born with a desire to dress like a woman. It's always a choice, a decision, that takes place.

And the answer to the BIG ticket item is......

I guess, especially for Wondergirl, the question now is, What is a woman ?

Everyone has a choice. The TV can just as effectively argue that he was supposedly born with a desire to dress like a woman. It's always a choice, a decision, that takes place.
Not at all. Of course, if the transgender chooses not to behave as the gender displayed, that person suffers GD. Gender dysphoria (GD) is currently understood by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders as an incongruence between one’s affirmed gender and the gender assigned at birth (natal or biological sex).

An "incongruence" between reality and my perception of reality is mental illness, or perhaps just deception. I imagine we all suffer from it at some level.

An "incongruence" between reality and my perception of reality is mental illness, or perhaps just deception. I imagine we all suffer from it at some level.
Especially when your body says you're a male but your hormones and brain are screaming that you're a female.

don't feel bad . SCOTUS Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson could not say what a woman was either .

Sen. Blackburn slams Judge Jackson on definition of 'woman' (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2022/03/23/sen-blackburn-slams-judge-jackson-on-definition-of-woman/)

your hormones and brain are screaming that you're a female.Except that TG is not related to hormones. When hormones "scream" to a person that she is female, it's because she is female. There is no indication that I'm aware of that hormones have anything to do with TG. You have tried in the past to link some hormonal treatment of pregnant women to TG, but as has been pointed out frequently, that particular medical treatment was stopped fifty years ago, so you have been left, so far as I can see, with no support for that idea.

Except that TG is not related to hormones. When hormones "scream" to a person that she is female, it's because she is female.
Yes, that person is male-looking when "he" takes off his clothes, but hormones and chromosomes say female.

but hormones and chromosomes say female.A completely absurd statement for which there is no support whatsoever, and which all of science plainly contradicts. It's a ridiculous idea to suggest that a person with male genitalia has female sex chromosomes. You really need to find some friends who have at least a basic understanding of biology.

A completely absurd statement for which there is no support whatsoever, and which all of science plainly contradicts. It's a ridiculous idea to suggest that a person with male genitalia has female sex chromosomes. You really need to find some friends who have at least a basic understanding of biology.
Time for you to leave the science learning you got in the '70s and then handed out after that.

And no matter what I post, you'll spit on it. Please do honest research. Start with something general and simple to understand, like in Wikipedia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_woman

Google: science transgender.

Time for you to leave the science learning you got in the '70s and then handed out after that.Translation = You don't have a clue, so you decide to become insulting. Why don't you try finding some support for the ridiculous idea that a person with female chromosomes will have male genitalia? Better yet, just be honest and admit you somehow got confused.

You can also become honest and point to the place in the article you linked where it states a person with female (XX) sex chromosomes will develop male genitalia. I will wait patiently...for a hundred years.

Note. I'll save you the time. I've already searched it and it's not there. Try again...harder. Much, much harder. A LOT harder.

And you will really post THIS??!! "Please do honest research." Good grief. Pot calls kettle black!!

Note. I'll save you the time. I've already searched it and it's not there. Try again...harder. Much, much harder. A LOT harder.

And you will really post THIS??!! "Please do honest research." Good grief. Pot calls kettle black!!
Ah, you are refusing to seek the truth. Okay. What documentation will you accept and maybe believe?

How about this as a beginning?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200205084203.htm

I'm refusing to seek the truth? Between the two of us, I'm the only one who knew enough to search your article and discover (gasp!!) that it did not give one ounce of support for your insane idea that a person with XX chromosomes will develop male genitalia. Doesn't this kind of dishonesty become embarrassing to you at some point? It really should.

I will accept documentation that actually supports the POV you are advancing and not just chasing rabbits.

The second link you posted also does not even mention chromosomes. Why am I not surprised?

Maybe I can help you. When you state an opinion that a person with female chromosomes (XX) will have male genitalia, then you really need to find an article that actually discusses CHROMOSOMES. Is that clear now?

And you really call yourself a retired librarian??? Wow.

I was trying to keep it simple and begin with the involvement of hormones, which involvement you have already spit on. Plus you spit on the very idea that chromosomes were involved.

And I've noticed you haven't hesitated to spit on me too. And I'm guessing you are one of the problem patrons we sigh about in the library break-room. I'm tempted to call your home library and ask if they have that reaction to you.

So this really doesn't get embarrassing to you? "Oh look. I've linked two articles that say nothing at all concerning my absurd idea that people with XX chromosomes will have male genitalia. What? That's not satisfactory? Well, I never! You are spitting on me!"

I'd be embarrassed beyond description.


I was trying to keep it simple and begin with the involvement of hormonesI'll be nice and just refer to this as an untruth since we have been talking about chromosomes for the past fifteen or so posts.

So this really doesn't get embarrassing to you? "Oh look. I've linked two articles that say nothing at all concerning my absurd idea that people with XX chromosomes will have male genitalia. What? That's not satisfactory? Well, I never! You are spitting on me!"
Please pay attention. I'm responding to you regarding the first term mentioned, chromosomes.

If you can't pay attention and respond appropriately, this lesson will be postponed until after I have taken a few tranquilizers. Sure wish Athos was here, but I betcha he's watching. I do get occasional signals from him. (Ha ha!!! And about a half hour after I typed that, I got another very obvious Athos-signal!!!)

Oh, and btw, I'm a member of the LGBTQ+ community.

So first you say, "I was trying to keep it simple and begin with the involvement of hormones," but then you claim, '"Please pay attention. I'm responding to you regarding the first term mentioned, chromosomes." And you were doing that by linking to two articles that said nothing about chromosomes?

Have you always been this confused???

Why is your community membership important here?

So first you say, "I was trying to keep it simple and begin with the involvement of hormones," but then you claim, '"Please pay attention. I'm responding to you regarding the first term mentioned, chromosomes." And you were doing that by linking to two articles that said nothing about chromosomes?
I had started out with a Wikipedia article about the transwoman. You ignored that and started tossing around chromosomes. As I had posted, I decided to begin by talking about the role of hormones and go from there. Well, that didn't work for you.


Have you always been this confused???
Um, I'm not the one confused.

Why is your community membership important here?
Just to intrigue you. And I'm very proud to be a member. It's definitely helped my husband and me in our long marriage.

I had started out with a Wikipedia article about the transwoman. You ignored that and started tossing around chromosomes. As I had posted, I decided to begin by talking about the role of hormones and go from there. Well, that didn't work for you.Sorry, but that's just complete garbage. I don't mean to be rude, but it gets old after a while. Learn to tell the truth. You started the conversation about chromosomes by posting, "Yes, that person is male-looking when "he" takes off his clothes, but hormones and chromosomes say female." I replied, "A completely absurd statement for which there is no support whatsoever, and which all of science plainly contradicts. It's a ridiculous idea to suggest that a person with male genitalia has female sex chromosomes." It was after that that you replied with two links, so try a little honesty. Good grief. Have you no shame?


Just to intrigue youThat group membership has long caused me to pray for you.

So, let me just pull together some pieces here.
While it is perfectly possible, and acceptable, to change your outwards appearance to the opposite sex/gender, it is currently not possible to change the base building blocks of DNA, chromosomes, that define sex and gender at a molecular level.
Also at what point is transition considered to be complete. I would suggest that until a full, surgical, reassignment is performed then the person is still in a transient state and should be consider their birth gender until that is complete.
Changing official documents, etc while still transitioning and intact, makes a complete mockery of the process for those people suffering from serious gender diaspora.
Does that about sum things up ?

And for Wondergirl especially, What is a Woman ?

Does that about sum things up ?All good comments.

Either there is bioethics or there is not . If not than all types of cans of worms are open including eugenics,euthanasia ,cloning ,abortions and human genetic modifications .

A person's sex is determined by how the body develops. (with rare exceptions ).If someone believes they were not born into the right gender/sex then that is a mental problem that needs to be addressed . Interventions with surgery is enabling a deeper problem There is no self outside one's body. They are one and the same.

Even more to the point, a person's sex is determined by his/her sex chromosomes and the resulting hormones the body produces in response to those chromosomal "instructions".

Even more to the point, a person's sex is determined by his/her sex chromosomes and the resulting hormones the body produces in response to those chromosomal "instructions".
And for transgenders, those are not the "usual" ones. Plus, what the brain is saying to the individual is important too.

And for transgenders, those are not the "usual" onesFrom the perspective of chromosomes and hormones they are not different. What they are thinking is certainly different, but it doesn't make it reality.

Someone is avoiding the difficult questions, not that I'm surprised really.

And for Wondergirl especially, What is a Woman ?

We wait...patiently.

Someone is avoiding the difficult questions, not that I'm surprised really.
I have replied to various aspects of transgenderism but was told I'm wrong or don't know what I'm talking about or need a scientific explanation (btw, available by googling). Sooo, I gave up, ate lunch, and now am feasting on homemade Christmas cookies and coffee.


We wait...patiently.
Start with this:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/adult-health/in-depth/transgender-facts/art-20266812

Someone is avoiding the difficult questions, not that I'm surprised really.
The basics - how transgenderism came to be:

https://brainworldmagazine.com/what-neuroscience-tells-us-about-transgender-people/

Please.
And for Wondergirl especially, What is a Woman ?

I have replied to various aspects of transgenderism but was told I'm wrong or don't know what I'm talking about or need a scientific explanation (btw, available by googling).The truth is, you made a laughable claim that people with female chromosomes can be TG and have male genitalia. I have asked you repeatedly to provide support for that idea and you have been unable to.

Predictably, you have provided yet another link that says nothing about chromosomes. We all know that you are just providing links to articles that you evidently don't even read. I don't know about the others, but I have wearied of this waste of time. If you can come up with anything supporting your "chromosomes scream female" POV, then we'll see how it goes.

Still unanswered. "I guess, especially for Wondergirl, the question now is, What is a woman ?"

The truth is, you made a laughable claim that people with female chromosomes can be TG and have male genitalia. I have asked you repeatedly to provide support for that idea and you have been unable to.

Predictably, you have provided yet another link that says nothing about chromosomes. We all know that you are just providing links to articles that you evidently don't even read. I don't know about the others, but I have wearied of this waste of time. If you can come up with anything supporting your "chromosomes scream female" POV, then we'll see how it goes.

Still unanswered. "I guess, especially for Wondergirl, the question now is, What is a woman ?"
I said, let's start with the basics. Did you read the basics yet?

You did not say that. We were talking about chromosomes as I showed you clearly yesterday. If you cannot be honest, then talk to someone else.

Is this a generational way of thinking or actually founded in reality ? - Page 3 (askmehelpdesk.com) (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=851114&page=3&p=3895213#post3895213)


Still unanswered. "I guess, especially for Wondergirl, the question now is, What is a woman ?"

***Before we examine the neuroscience let’s look at what ancient belief systems tell us. Judaism lists six genders. Atlanta rabbi Joshua Lesser says that an examination of Judaism’s sacred texts shows that a simple “male” and “female” binary is “inaccurate.” The six genders are:


Zachar: A person with male characteristics
Nekeivah: A person with female characteristics
Androgynos: A person with male and female characteristics (149 references to this in Mishna and Talmud; 350 in classical Midrash and Jewish law codes)
Tumtum: A person with indeterminate characteristics (181 references in Mishna and Talmud; 335 in classical Midrash and Jewish law codes)
Ay’lonit: A person classified as female at birth, develops male characteristics at puberty and is infertile (80 references in Mishna and Talmud; 40 in classical Midrash and Jewish law codes)
Saris: A person classified as male at birth who develops female characteristics at puberty and/or lacks male characteristics (156 references in Mishna and Talmud; 379 in classical Midrash and Jewish law codes)

Native Americans believe there are five genders: “female,” “male,” “two-spirit female,” “two-spirit male,” and “transgendered.” LGBT Native Americans adopted the term “two spirit” from the Ojibwe language in 1989, according to Duane Brayboy in Indian Country Today (https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/two-spirits-one-heart-five-genders). Brayboy notes that “the Navajo refer to two spirits as Nádleehí (one who is transformed); among the Lakota is Winkté (a male who behaves as a female); Niizh Manidoowag (two spirit) in Ojibwe; Hemaneh (half-man, half-woman) in Cheyenne; to name a few.”

Christianity lacks this specificity. Carol Shedd, a devout 89-year-old Episcopalian in Wellesley, Massachusetts says that Christians who oppose transgender individuals, “forget the teaching in Genesis 1:26–27 that all human beings are created in the image and likeness of God, there are no exceptions.” Gordon D. Kaufman, a Mennonite and Harvard Divinity Professor writes in his book, “In the beginning … Creativity” (https://amzn.to/2HPtvTy): “One reason we humans have found it so difficult to understand creativity [Kaufman’s term for God] is because we have all too often thought of nature as in a kind of harmony, a balance; but that is a mistake. All systems are in some respects out of balance, and sometimes the present order gives way to a new better-adapted order … The tipping point is that instant when what had been ordinary quantitative change suddenly leads to qualitative change.” He quotes philosopher Mark Taylor who wrote, “Life continues only as long as things are out of balance.”



Dr. Toby Kell, a retired senior radiologist in Needham, Massachusetts (one of the world’s top gender reassignment clinics is in Boston) says about 10% of babies are born with misleading sexual organs. “You may find a child born with female organs, but a large knob where the clitoris should be. The gender identification of babies can be challenging, sometimes a child has the genitalia of both sexes, or the outer appearance of one gender while carrying internal organs of another. Doctors assign one gender and hope for the best.”

Although this field of neuroscience is in its infancy, what we do know, is that the old argument of nature versus nurture, shows that nature most often has the last word. The genitals and the brain acquire masculine or feminine traits at different stages of development in utero.***

https://brainworldmagazine.com/what-neuroscience-tells-us-about-transgender-people/

Still no mention of chromosomes, and still no answer to this. Still unanswered. "I guess, especially for Wondergirl, the question now is, What is a woman ?"

Still no mention of chromosomes, and still no answer to this. Still unanswered. "I guess, especially for Wondergirl, the question now is, What is a woman ?"
I'm starting at the beginning. There will be a quiz tomorrow. Chromosomes will be in a future post. SOON

Still waiting.....

UK's Sunak on Gender: 'A Man Is a Man and a Woman Is a Woman' (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2DW29PkyA4)

Still waiting.....You'll need lots of coffee. You will also be waiting a long time for this. "Chromosomes will be in a future post. SOON." I hope it's a great deal more accurate than the nonsense discussed above.

I sometimes think I went to bed on earth and woke up on Mars when we are having these irrational, ludicrous discussions about how many genders there are. There are two, and they are determined, 999 times out of a thousand, by sex chromosomes being either XX or XY. End of story.

You'll need lots of coffee. You will also be waiting a long time for this. "Chromosomes will be in a future post. SOON." I hope it's a great deal more accurate than the nonsense discussed above.

I sometimes think I went to bed on earth and woke up on Mars when we are having these irrational, ludicrous discussions about how many genders there are. There are two, and they are determined, 999 times out of a thousand, by sex chromosomes being either XX or XY. End of story.
You are very wrong. And I'm tired of the put-downs. Do your own research. Goodbye.

You are very wrong. And I'm tired of the put-downs. Do your own research. Goodbye.

So , rather than throwing a childish tamtrum, why not show us why our position is incorrect, preferably without disconnected URLs and meandering copy&pastes.

Seems to be a simple question really, What is a Woman ?

I'm out of coffee.


So , rather than throwing a childish tamtrum, why not show us why our position is incorrect, preferably without disconnected URLs and meandering copy&pastes.The question of the day and a really good one. I suspect it will also go unanswered.

I oftentimes think that WG is as aware as the rest of us of the utter lack of support for her positions. Rather than admit that, she seems to want to suggest that I am the problem with my "putdowns". Too bad.

https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/425707234_10161645889375827_5895450100126109994_n. jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=c42490&_nc_ohc=BDdox_92obgAX_ksJhU&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&oh=00_AfBPbOcy3O_CcI_xASeUMmPa7fG-rqvYf5cQ3vAuw6NfsQ&oe=65C6951C

I have a clear example where this logic leads .

Clueless Joe is on a roll . The Senate has now confirmed 200 Federal Court nominees by Joe.


Democrats were ecstatic as the Senate voted 66-28 Wednesday afternoon to confirm the 200th nominee — Angela Martinez, tapped by the administration to fill a vacancy in the District of Arizona.
During a news conference on the Capitol steps, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said that Democrats were not only on track to confirm more lifetime judgeships than the Trump administration, but also that the slate of Biden nominees have been among some of the most diverse ever selected for the federal judiciary.
“For too long, the bench didn’t look like America,” Schumer said, “it only looked like a portion of America. We’re making our courts look more like America, something we can all be proud of.”


Senate Dems celebrate 200th Biden admin judicial confirmation amid partisan slugfest over latest nominees | Courthouse News Service (https://www.courthousenews.com/senate-dems-celebrate-200th-biden-admin-judicial-confirmation-amid-partisan-slugfest-over-latest-nominees/)

Most of them are radicals that will impact the country long after Joe goes to level 9 of the Inferno.

One such judge was being scrutinized by the Senate yesterday . Sarah Netburn is being considered for a spot on the 2nd District in New York.
The questioning centers around her decision to allow a male serial child rapist; who now says he is a she ;to be transferred to a woman's prison. Ted Cruz led the questioning on the issue.

MUST WATCH: Chaos Erupts When Senator Cruz Calls Out Woke Biden Judge (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hveqyfAY9ug)

We can all be proud (and we know what they mean by pride ) .

Mr Rodgers explains it simply

Mr. Rogers Everybody's Fancy - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7s_GokU1x0&t=51s)

Watch this debate between Charlie Kirk and a teacher. The beginning is about the concept of a federal education approach opposed to having education decided at the local level, and school choice. They get into the gender issue between 8:36 -10:00 mark of the video. This is what is being taught to the children.

CHARLIE KIRK SHUTS DOWN School Teacher What is a Woman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6wfBRNgm7g)

UK Supreme Court clarified the issue legally. At issue was could transformer men be considered women under the 2010 Equality Act

Equality Act 2010 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/contents)


The ruling was straight forward and logical .


264. For all these reasons, this examination of the language of the EA 2010, its context and purpose, demonstrate that the words “sex”, “woman” and “man” in sections 11 and 212(1) mean (and were always intended to mean) biological sex, biological woman and biological man.

“The unanimous decision of this court is that ‘woman’ and ‘sex’ in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological women and biological sex”

For Women Scotland Ltd (Appellant) v The Scottish Ministers (Respondent) (https://supremecourt.uk/uploads/uksc_2024_0042_judgment_aea6c48cee.pdf)


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J.K. Rowling on X: "I love it when a plan comes together. #SupremeCourt #WomensRights https://t.co/agOkWmhPgb" / X (https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1912644919103004807)

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Meanwhile on this side of the pond ,Judges are slapping down parents who silently protest men pretending to be women competing in woman's sports .

Judge Rules School Can Ban 'XX' Protests Over Males in Girls' Sports - NH Journal (https://nhjournal.com/judge-rules-school-can-ban-xx-protests-over-males-in-girls-sports/)

Now the left tells us that women are the stronger sex

The Stronger Sex: What Science Tells Us about the Power of the Female Body: Vartan, Starre: 9781541604421: Amazon.com: Books (https://www.amazon.com/Stronger-Sex-Science-Tells-Female/dp/1541604423/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3CQZ43N5A143Y&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-Q1nrcX7CqjnYRB9v4dRTU8vw7RgdJGc8fBEiJeVXcSXrwG-adiaQ69CNkRucWJydHVmGH8FgFCoszufFCaq5Lrqf51C1bKRCK D-O7QUpbOeOCeizOxry1h4-qTZsfTdfNMuTd_BiVrYDYSgbvupaVIxN056Va1qfOzMLfoyF_D dnfyGbVzFqxQbSqlFBoMuENLkbZ1hAaRd6iPg6zemm8VlklJLx FzXyjFNIaQKWnE.IUkOWfIytEHJTYlrKt3ztAdgo4PZObEN03D jRn9z0Ew&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+stronger+sex&qid=1744639599&sprefix=the+stronger+sex,aps,103&sr=8-1)

See ? No issue if men compete in women's sports !

This we are told by a fiction writer who dabbles in science (she "picks up rocks ")
Amazon.com: Starre Vartan: books, biography, latest update (https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0DTSGLMMG/about?ccs_id=ee281a6f-941d-4069-af5a-44a8d70fb0bd)