Vote for the dufus, and listen to more lies. You may need more than luck for that.

"Vote for Trump and keep a historic economic period going." I think that will work.

"Vote for What's His Name." He'll...do something.

Vote for Biden. He can't remember anything, but at least his wife can.

Good luck with that.
If Trump would take the lifts out of his shoes and stop eating all that junk food that makes him so chubby, he might be able to walk down a ramp. And Melania is rarely to be seen. If I were Trump's wife, I'd be hiding too.

If Trump would take the lifts out of his shoes and stop eating all that junk food that makes him so chubby, he might be able to walk down a ramp.Wow. Back to fat-shaming again. Well, at least you won't vote for Stacey Abram.

Wow. Back to fat-shaming again. Well, at least you won't vote for Stacey Abram.
So you say none of that is true? At least I'm not the one guilty of shaming Biden.

So if it's true, then it's OK to shame? Got it.

So if it's true, then it's OK to shame? Got it.
You taught me how.

It will come back to haunt you. You can't complain now since you have said it's OK so long as it's true.

It will come back to haunt you. You can't complain now since you have said it's OK so long as it's true.
You said it; I didn't.

Nope. It was you. "So you say none of that is true?"

Nope. It was you. "So you say none of that is true?"
Reading comprehension has always been a struggle for you, hasn't it.

Real slow. "So...you...say...none...of...that...is...true?"

It will come back to haunt you.

WG, he's big on coming "back to haunt". He says that to me, too. LOL. Not much bite in that bark.

A..q..u..i..n..a..s

You just can't get over it. It stokes your hatred and anger. Very sad to watch.

"Vote for Trump and keep a historic economic period going." I think that will work.

"Vote for What's His Name." He'll...do something.

Where have you been? The virus has the economy reeling and if the dufus can't deal with either the virus or economy he's toast.

Look at the month of May. There were historic job growth and retail sales growth figures. I think most people have enough sense to know that the virus set us back a great deal. I doubt that more than a handful of people would look at JB and think he would have done a better job of managing it.

Look at the month of May. There were historic job growth and retail sales growth figures.
And without (impatient) consumers wearing masks or doing any social distancing, COVID-19 has come surging back!

Look at the month of May. There were historic job growth and retail sales growth figures. I think most people have enough sense to know that the virus set us back a great deal. I doubt that more than a handful of people would look at JB and think he would have done a better job of managing it.

Thank you Mr. Obama for delivering a good healthy economy that the dufus build on and take credit for.

Thank you slaves for building the best nation on Earth for FREE, with labor, blood, sweat, and great sacrifice through cruelty, and all kinds of atrocities.

You aren't worried about that debt, so why the hell should my grandkids worry about paying a debt they didn't make?

A..q..u..i..n..a..s.

That's it? That's the bite?

Here it is in big bold letters.

A..q..u..i..n..a..s

Wonderful! Now you're catching on.

Thank you slaves for building the best nation on Earth for FREE, with labor, blood, sweat, and great sacrifice through cruelty, and all kinds of atrocities.The north beat the south largely because of the North's vastly superior industrial base that was built by free men. And certainly everything since 1865 has been built through private enterprise with no slavery. You are taking a legitimate point and exaggerating it to the point of silliness.


You aren't worried about that debt, so why the hell should my grandkids worry about paying a debt they didn't make?Yeah. Right. The only person on this board to bring it up over the past months is not worried about it. Sure. That makes a lot of sense. What makes you think I'm not worried about it anyway?

The north beat the south largely because of the North's vastly superior industrial base that was built by free men.
And where did those free (white) men in the North get the raw materials -- especially the cotton, tobacco, and sugar cane -- to build that industrial base?

You don't build industry with cotton, tobacco, and sugar cane. Most of the South's cotton was sent to textile mills in Britain.

You don't build industry with cotton, tobacco, and sugar cane. Most of the South's cotton was sent to textile mills in Britain.
Nope. It did go there too but New England especially benefited from the plantation cotton for their textile mills. I learned that in 4th grade!

Fair enough, but to say that the industrial north was built by the labor of slaves is simply not correct. Not even close. Free men, coal and iron built the industrial north. That's not to discount what slaves produced. It was considerable, but to say that our country was built by slave labor is way over the top.

The industrial north was built on generations of cheap labor, blood, sweat, and sacrifice, under some very grueling conditions. Where do you thing immigrants and runaway slave and later freed slaves went to? You should read up about the history of industrialization before unions. You should also brush up on what happens to towns built around those industries that no longer exists.

The industrial north was built on generations of cheap labor, blood, sweat, and sacrifice, under some very grueling conditions.That is partially true, but it is not what you said in your original statement about slavery. You are, at least, becoming more reasonable.

What was unreasonable about my previous point?

What was unreasonable? This. "Thank you slaves for building the best nation on Earth for FREE."

It way overstates the case. Slave labor contributed, but did not do all, or even most, of the building.

And without (impatient) consumers wearing masks or doing any social distancing, COVID-19 has come surging back! what is being called a surge is pockets of increased cases ;and most of the surge is because testing has increased including when people go back to work ,their employers are insisting that they ae negative before coming back to work . These people were already infected before the restrictions were lifted . As in the beginning ;the only issue is preventing the overwhelming of the hospitals . We know so much more now than we did in March. WE know wearing masks ,sanitizing ,washing hands and social distancing helps prevent the spread . We know it is rarely fatal for people younger than 60 and in many younger people ;they don't even show symptoms when infected .

I know Trump opponents want the economy to continue to tank so they are rooting for a new spike . Sandinista Bill did NOTHING about the riots and demonstrations . In fact he encouraged them and blamed cops for excesses . But now he is restraining from opening up NYC because he wants to know if the demonstrations caused an increase in c-19 cases . He is a disingenuous POS . They were ready to arrest a handful of business owners who demonstrated to allow their establishments to open . il Duce Cuomo lectured us for weeks and threatened to shut down the state again . Then they allowed this to go on in Brooklyn .
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/6WugdCtvz5SreMyxE2Xe_g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTEyODA7aD03MjA-/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/_VGaZ0ExXigho1uCZ8PiKQ--~B/aD03MjA7dz0xMjgwO3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://s.yimg.com/hd/cp-video-transcode/prod/2020-06/15/5ee7946f6ca6be17544452fa/5ee7946f6ca6be17544452fb_o_U_v2.jpg

So I'm guessing that is not a pic of a Trump rally?

The alarming part is the spikes that lead to hospitalizations and while your city seems to have gone through the worst Tom, other cities are just getting started so I don't think we have fully weathered the first wave as yet. I don't pretend to know how this will affect businesses though since we really haven't solved anything yet or how small businesses can keep replacing sick workers and customers who don't want to be sick of all ages, or open up to shutdown again.

We seem to have 50 different ways of dealing with how to reopen safely, and stay open enough to bank some profits. Did you see those long lines of people in Kentucky waiting for unemployment checks from last month or beyond?

https://news.yahoo.com/hundreds-line-kentucky-ask-help-115701994.html

that's because the Federal Government hastily voted unemployment benefits with no thought beyond it felt good to do something . I know people here who have still not received their 1st check ,and others who could go back to work today but are choosing to stay out until their benefits are exhausted . What state has their hospitals overwhelmed ? NY came close but even here most of the resources were adequate except for pockets in Brooklyn ,Queens etc . I cant say it was over hyped because we did not know any better . But now we have a better handle on it . I recommend to everyone to follow the guidelines . It is not a fun illness for geezers like me to deal with . But for perspective ,1968 over 100,000 Americans died in the pandemic and no one knew we were in one .

Just can't imagine a blue collar low paid worker risking his life and health to help your precious economy can you, Tom? We have learned a lot the last few months, but there is much more to learn.

I think its a cop out and false to say those folks told to not work in the first place, rather get free money because they haven't gotten it yet. Maybe the business cycle can operate that way but humans cannot. Hope you have learned that while you expect everybody to ignore those risks, and do as the boss tells them when he tells them.

The functions and structures of government and society are broken folks, and as long as we ignore that there will be no return to normal. LOL, presumptuous of you to think we ignore the virus and try.

Just can't imagine a blue collar low paid worker risking his life and health to help your precious economy can you, Tom?

I work in a plant full of them that show up every day . I respect them more than the P*SSY office workers who are tele-working from their beach homes .(the asterisk is because the system tried to censor my comment )

Pretty obvious the blue collar workers have suffered greatly from the virus and stalled economy as usual like every other business downturn they have no control over. They can't afford to be sick.

This is what Hydroxychloroquine (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=847488&page=54) does to you, the man is befuddled

Check your link Clete.

Yes it is a circular argument

the known sie effects are;



Blistering, peeling, loosening of the skin
blurred vision or other vision changes
chest discomfort, pain, or tightness
cough or hoarseness
dark urine
decreased urination
defective color vision
diarrhea (https://www.drugs.com/cg/acute-diarrhea.html)
difficulty breathing
difficulty seeing at night
dizziness (https://www.drugs.com/cg/vertigo.html) or fainting
fast, pounding, uneven heartbeat
feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
feeling that others can hear your thoughts
feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
fever with or without chills
general feeling of tiredness or weakness
headache (https://www.drugs.com/cg/acute-headache.html)
inability to move the eyes
increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
joint or muscle pain
large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, and sex organs
loss of hearing
lower back or side pain
noisy breathing
painful or difficult urination
red irritated eyes
red skin lesions, often with a purple center
severe mood or mental changes
sore throat (https://www.drugs.com/cg/sore-throat.html) sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
sticking out of the tongue
stomach pain
swelling of the feet or lower legs
swollen or painful glands
trouble with breathing, speaking, or swallowing
uncontrolled twisting movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs
unusual behavior
unusual bleeding or bruising
unusual facial expressions
unusual tiredness or weakness
yellow eyes or skin

We've already pulled this drug as a viable emergency treatment Clete and have replaced it with a long used steroid with better promise so the speculation is over as far as I'm concerned.

short sited . This is what I mean by making a treatment political . NIH and Novartis discontinues clinical trials not because they discovered anything wrong . They discontinue it because the anti-Trump luddites did so much bad unproven press about the drug that they were having trouble finding volunteers for the study as a result .

Clete ; the drug has been used for decades for a number of different treatments . Do you really think if the side effects you posted were an issue that the drug would still be on the market ? The fact is that almost all those side effects are manifest over long term care for things like rheumatoid arthritis and other chronic diseases it is used for . The treatment for C-19 is not a long term treatment . Either it helps in combination with other drugs and supplements or it doesn't . There is no way the long term side effects manifest themselves in c-19 treatment .

You're beating a dead horse Dr. Tom, because the dufus FDA said otherwise. It was more a risk of disrupting the availability for those that need it and proven effective against those issues than as a corona treatment. They have already found a more reliable drug so who needs an unreliable one? That makes no sense.

They have already found a more reliable drug so who needs an unreliable one? says who ? There have been no clinical trials released confirming the Brit claim . You see what I mean ? You apply a completely different standard when there is a possibility of discrediting Trump . It was you who said there were no studies to back up the claims of hydroxychloroquine's effectiveness and yet you are ready to proclaim
dexamethasone the wonder drug answer. Well hold on there . According to the reports if they are true ,the steroid is somewhat effective for patients being ventilated or on oxygen . The treatment according to the report reduced deaths by 1/3 for patients on ventilators and by 20% for those on oxygen . Well at best that is a welcome reduction . But it is hardly the problem solved you make it out to be. For me it is all hands on deck . But the politics have made it almost impossible to do a fair test on hydroxychloroquine .
Lets make it clear ;it was the NIH that directed the FDA on this matter Novartis statement says



Novartis has terminated its sponsored hydroxychloroquine clinical trial for COVID-19 due to acute enrollment challenges that have made trial completion “infeasible”.The drug giant said that slow trial recruitment has made it unlikely that the clinical team will be able to collect meaningful data in a reasonable time frame
to determine the effectiveness of the drug in treating patients with the virus.
It was also stressed that no safety issues have been reported,

You apply a completely different standard when there is a possibility of discrediting Trump . Gosh. Seems like someone else here has said that.

Standard is the same Tom, and the fact they have a better emergency treatment for a few people is hopeful rather than infeasible. I don't think I even mentioned the dufus in my last post, except to refer to his FDA that has made the aforementioned decisions.

I certainly could have and no doubt will in the future, but you and JL already know that.

Clete ; the drug has been used for decades for a number of different treatments . Do you really think if the side effects you posted were an issue that the drug would still be on the market ? The fact is that almost all those side effects are manifest over long term care for things like rheumatoid arthritis and other chronic diseases it is used for . The treatment for C-19 is not a long term treatment . Either it helps in combination with other drugs and supplements or it doesn't . There is no way the long term side effects manifest themselves in c-19 treatment .

I was alluding to some of the more interesting side effects
paranoia, yellow skin, mental issues

All drugs have side effects and can be dangerous so should be taken and administered by a professional. Side effects Tom can be and have been managed effectively in most cases but why you insist on this particular drug pushed and supposedly used by the dufus, as a viable option after the FDA has pulled the plug is beyond me.


I was alluding to some of the more interesting side effects
paranoia, yellow skin, mental issues

The dufus may be using ORANGE spray paint to hide yellow skin? He was already showing signs of paranoia and mental issues before he announced the dope he was taking.

yes so the effects are multiplied

Guess it doesn't mix well with diet coke.

update ...............

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/health/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-detroit-study/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3rS9Sjdj8u_iLmPkh1kQ_KTfvFoc 1ot8cg9eCiND_Vgn0SQBqdwqK5X-o

Talaniman Rule- Be wary, be VERY wary of anything the dufus or his people tell you. Even the dufus medical experts regularly refute everything the dufus says.

and this from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons .... I am pretty sure I posted this before . It is worth posting again :


While people’s lives and jobs are being devastated by the coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19), and there has been no FDA-approved treatment, governors or state pharmacy boards in Nevada, Michigan, New York, Ohio, and Texas are issuing emergency orders to restrict which medications doctors can use to save lives.
These politicians have no background in infectious disease, medicine, research design, or epidemiology, yet they presume to dictate to front-line physicians who are reading the emerging research and caring for patients.

https://aapsonline.org/why-are-some-governors-blocking-physicians-attempts-to-save-lives-in-coronavirus-pandemic/

I'm pretty sure frontline physicians can get desperate, but hospital policy probably limits what they can safely do, or what is available for them to even use, and even if they did use unapproved stuff, seems patients would have to relieve the hospital of any liabilities so it can get complicated. Personally until the evidence of SOLID trials comes through, this is a no brainer and that's what I wrote above.

The dufus is a bonafide snake oil salesman Tom, and that hurts whatever he is hawking with half a$$ed evidence. As well it should.

12 consecutive studies have shown hydroxychloroquine to be effective in fighting COVID-19. Now a Yale epidemiologist says it is ‘the key to defeating’ the virus.


When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective, especially when given in combination with the antibiotics azithromycin or doxycycline and the nutritional supplement zinc.
On May 27, I published an article in the American Journal of Epidemiology (AJE) entitled, "Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk COVID-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis." That article, published in the world's leading epidemiology journal, analyzed five studies, demonstrating clear-cut and significant benefits to treated patients, plus other very large studies that showed the medication safety........

Since publication of my May 27 article, seven more studies have demonstrated similar benefit. In a lengthy follow-up letter, also published by AJE, I discuss these seven studies and renew my call for the immediate early use of hydroxychloroquine in high-risk patients. These seven studies include: an additional 400 high-risk patients treated by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, with zero deaths; four studies totaling almost 500 high-risk patients treated in nursing homes and clinics across the U.S., with no deaths; a controlled trial of more than 700 high-risk patients in Brazil, with significantly reduced risk of hospitalization and two deaths among 334 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine; and another study of 398 matched patients in France, also with significantly reduced hospitalization risk. Since my letter was published, even more doctors have reported to me their completely successful use.


https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535

https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586

Yes well Trump told us it is effective so we should believe him

that statement illustrates the problem . The epidemiologist researched 12 recent tests that gave good results for C-19 patients if the cocktail is administered early . But it still becomes an issue that Trump promoted it . Imagine you doctor saying "the good news is that hydroxychloroquine could save your life from covid -19 . The bad news is that you will prove Trump was right . "

yes that is certainly bad news

I know politics and science don't mix, but I know the money dictates everything, and no doubt who has the money.

that statement illustrates the problem . The epidemiologist researched 12 recent tests that gave good results for C-19 patients if the cocktail is administered early . But it still becomes an issue that Trump promoted it . Imagine you doctor saying "the good news is that hydroxychloroquine could save your life from covid -19 . The bad news is that you will prove Trump was right . "

If this is true, why is it not accepted by the scientific community? The WHO has declared the INEFFECTIVENESS of the drug. Maybe that's why Trump stopped funding of the organization.

There is no strong scientific evidence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_evidence) to support the use of hydroxychloroquine for preventing or treating coronavirus disease 2019 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus_disease_2019) (COVID‑19). While its use is not approved by the FDA for COVID‑19 treatment, from April to June 2020, there was an emergency use authorization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_use_authorization) for its use in the United States,[50] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxychloroquine#cite_note-50) and it has been used off label (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off_label) for potential treatment of the disease. On 24 April 2020, citing the risk of "serious heart rhythm problems", the FDA posted a caution against using the drug for COVID‑19 "outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial". On 15 June, the FDA revoked its emergency use authorization, stating that it was "no longer reasonable to believe" that the drug was effective against COVID-19 or that its benefits outweighed "known and potential risks".

A randomized (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randomized_controlled_trial), double-blind (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-blind), placebo-controlled study (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo-controlled_study) of hydroxychloroquine in 821 participants found that it did not treat COVID‑19 infection, although the study had limitations. In June, use of hydroxychloroquine in the UK RECOVERY Trial (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RECOVERY_Trial) was discontinued when an interim analysis of 1,542 treatments showed it provided no mortality benefit to people with severe COVID-19 infection hospitalized over 28 days.

The Henry Ford study recommending the drug has been questioned by epidemiologists.

The bottom line is that the drug is still controversial. Trump's take on the treatment has nothing to do with its effectiveness, but he should not be suggesting it without scientific proof. Remember Trump also suggested injecting disinfectant directly into the bloodstream.

this is a bad case of we didn't think of it, however, it was only suggested as a preventative, not as a cure all. it is possible that in certain cases, such as an otherwise healthy person, it may be effective, however cv19 is a particular problem in those with health issues

I don't see any drug company touting HydroQ for anything Covid related. That's a telling clue to how effective Big Pharma thinks it is. They'll pay doctors to say anything about their drugs and none has pushed for approval against covid19.

nonsense . HQ is otc and costs pennies per dose . There is no way big Pharma is going to promote it when there are drugs that cost thousands to peddle .

This is what happens when you take HQ

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=president+scene+from+mars+attacks&&view=detail&mid=E1FBD7E81689FEF9128DE1FBD7E81689FEF9128D&rvsmid=530579C2B2FA33FA611B530579C2B2FA33FA611B&FORM=VDQVAP

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/aa/38/e2/aa38e22d9f020c0c55c8d7a352358acf.jpg

We have had four years of ack ack

and 8 years of quack quack before that.

and 8 years of quack quack before that.

Years that Obama guided the nation out of the financial quagmire where Bush and the Republicans put the country. The best quack quack you've ever seen!

It is clear the consequence of taking HQ long term (ie; Trump) is to become mentally dull. He talks of resurgence all over the world, but he doesn't see the relevance of enduring the pain of lockdown now to stop the spread and get a better outcome. he would rather be reelected than save one unnecessary death. We have learned the lesson, this path is not the path out of CV19 and the state of Victoria in Australia is now in full scale lockdown including curtailment of freedoms and although bad, the situation is no where as bad as in the US, it is just that the standard of care and responsibility is higher

yes there are side effects from long term use of HQ . Fortunately there would be no long term use of it for C-19 treatment . The complete lock down is absolutely intolerable . Part of the reason for the people of Victoria rebelling was Daniel Andrews draconian restrictions before this . He is the il duce Cuomo of Australia .

You don't like lockdowns? Nobody does, so where is the market solutions that are also safe to implement? I might add that the fed infused trillions to keep those markets afloat through this crisis, so maybe that's what main street needs too.

yes there are side effects from long term use of HQ . Fortunately there would be no long term use of it for C-19 treatment . The complete lock down is absolutely intolerable . Part of the reason for the people of Victoria rebelling was Daniel Andrews draconian restrictions before this . He is the il duce Cuomo of Australia .

We don't have such characters here, our political system weeds them out quickly. Andrews has lasted as long as premier as some but no doubt won't survive the next election and given the rigors of the job he may not want to. He has faced two disasters in a year. The restrictions arn't draconian but given the level of infection spread by Victorians, necessary. Even my own family has suffered isolation due to their wanderings

Try to understand this. I have ,and continue to argue ,this virus won't go away until herd immunity is achieved . That doesn't mean everyone need become seriously ill by it . We have plenty of evidence that most age groups are not nearly as vulnerable to serious illness.

Vaccines may help that to be achieved . Another possibility is through viral inoculum .The theory is an old but tried and true one. General Washington inoculated the colonial army with small pox to build up immunity . If he hadn't done that the colonial army would not have survived .

So how does that get achieved without a working vaccine ? Could it be that wearing masks is one way ? Now the argument for wearing masks has been to prevent you from infecting others . But does the mask also help prevent you from getting a serious dose of the virus ? These doctors argue it does.


Although the benefit of population-level public facial masking to protect others during the COVID-19 pandemic has received a great deal of attention, we discuss for one of the first times the hypothesis that universal masking reduces the “inoculum” or dose of the virus for the mask-wearer, leading to more mild and asymptomatic infection manifestations. Masks, depending on type, filter out the majority of viral particles, but not all. ....... Exposing society to SARS-CoV-2 without the unacceptable consequences of severe illness with public masking could lead to greater community-level immunity and slower spread as we await a vaccine.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11606-020-06067-8?fbclid=IwAR0XRQ2kHaUQb3P0l_odIr1uRb9AkFn0Y_Vvv3H JQh28VJoOIcfqLnYyi-E

They go on to explain the theory in further detail and conclude their report with this (tal read it carefully )

The efforts to preserve life must be balanced against the catastrophic consequences of shutting down economies, which ultimately will lead to more suffering, poverty, and death than the virus itself, especially for the working poor. Although universal public masking can certainly protect others, the “inoculum” theory argues for a major protective effect for the individual and will allow for the preservation of life, along with other COVID-19 control measures, as society re-opens. This perspective puts forth another advantage of population-level facial masking for pandemic control with SARS-CoV-2 based on an old but enduring theory regarding viral inoculum, clinical manifestations in the host, and protection.

The efforts to preserve life must be balanced against the catastrophic consequences of shutting down economies, which ultimately will lead to more suffering, poverty, and death than the virus itself, especially for the working poor

Tom I agree that shutting down economies cannot be a long term strategy, however, if governments don't act to protect populations, and particularly the vulnerable, from the idiot fringe of society they will be held accountable. Businesses that fail are marginal at best and cannot be propped up at the expense of society in the interests of capitalist economics

Herd immunity is a falacy, CV19 is related to the common cold, there is no herd immunity to the common cold

I certainly agree that the economic and health needs of the country should be balanced Tom, but that's not what we're doing is it? The dufus and conservatives are pushing for full opening and economic activity despite the growing health numbers that say slow down or get overwhelmed. The whole economy isn't affected the same way, just those low paying working poor service jobs you want to mask up and keep working taking the biggest hit, and nobody wants to treat them, or pay for them to recover, or even test them properly.

Now we can wait for your herd immunity to kick in, but the quarantined still have to eat and pay rent, and get treated, and hospitals are full and expanding to tents if they can afford it. So let me know when you get that balance between sick poor people and full hospital beds.

Let me ask you this then, after 7 months why don't we have the testing the dufus has? You know, quick easy and immediate results? We all know waiting for a week to know your status is useless and potentially dangerous.

you have to ask yourself ;why can a MLB player like Joey Votto say he has symptoms ;get tested and have results the next day ?

you have to ask yourself ;why can a MLB player like Joey Votto say he has symptoms ;get tested and have results the next day ?

Ask the dufus, he said everybody who want or needs a test can get one. He didn't promise when you would get the results though so maybe that's why he gave a camera company a billion bucks to save us from the virus.

you haven't heard of the two speed economy or one rule for the rich and one for the peons? Of course someone high profile will get favoured treatment, probably has a lab on standby for the team. Who knows, maybe facial recognition technology can identify the virus stricken individuals by their heat signature

Saw on the news they're training dogs to sniff out people who have corona.

Saw on the news they're training dogs to sniff out people who have corona.

Yes dogs are great detectives, now when they train them to identify and administer HQ...................

Facebook just removed the comments the dufus made about children being immune as dangerous covid misinformation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/facebook-removes-first-coronavirus-misinformation-post-by-trump/ar-BB17CcOg?ocid=msedgntp

I expect they are right, foolish ideas have no place in a pandemic