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excon
Nov 20, 2009, 06:03 AM
Hello Righty's:

I see that you have embraced the following as your watchword... Here it is in its entirety.

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Psalm 109

1 O God, whom I praise,
do not remain silent,

2 for wicked and deceitful men
have opened their mouths against me;
they have spoken against me with lying tongues.

3 With words of hatred they surround me;
they attack me without cause.

4 In return for my friendship they accuse me,
but I am a man of prayer.

5 They repay me evil for good,
and hatred for my friendship.

6 Appoint an evil man to oppose him;
let an accuser stand at his right hand.

7 When he is tried, let him be found guilty,
and may his prayers condemn him.

8 May his days be few;
may another take his place of leadership.

9 May his children be fatherless
and his wife a widow.

10 May his children be wandering beggars;
may they be driven [d] from their ruined homes.

11 May a creditor seize all he has;
may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.

12 May no one extend kindness to him
or take pity on his fatherless children.

13 May his descendants be cut off,
their names blotted out from the next generation.

14 May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the LORD;
may the sin of his mother never be blotted out.

15 May their sins always remain before the LORD,
that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.

16 For he never thought of doing a kindness,
but hounded to death the poor
and the needy and the brokenhearted.

17 He loved to pronounce a curse—
may it [e] come on him;
he found no pleasure in blessing—
may it be [f] far from him.

18 He wore cursing as his garment;
it entered into his body like water,
into his bones like oil.

19 May it be like a cloak wrapped about him,
like a belt tied forever around him.

20 May this be the LORD's payment to my accusers,
to those who speak evil of me.

21 But you, O Sovereign LORD,
deal well with me for your name's sake;
out of the goodness of your love, deliver me.

22 For I am poor and needy,
and my heart is wounded within me.

23 I fade away like an evening shadow;
I am shaken off like a locust.

24 My knees give way from fasting;
my body is thin and gaunt.

25 I am an object of scorn to my accusers;
when they see me, they shake their heads.

26 Help me, O LORD my God;
save me in accordance with your love.

27 Let them know that it is your hand,
that you, O LORD, have done it.

28 They may curse, but you will bless;
when they attack they will be put to shame,
but your servant will rejoice.

29 My accusers will be clothed with disgrace
and wrapped in shame as in a cloak.

30 With my mouth I will greatly extol the LORD;
in the great throng I will praise him.

31 For he stands at the right hand of the needy one,
to save his life from those who condemn him.

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I don't ordinarily post religious garbage, but I thought the world ought to know what your favored psalm REALLY says...

You ought to be ashamed - but you're not.

excon

tomder55
Nov 20, 2009, 06:04 AM
You know I'm not a Biblical literalist .

speechlesstx
Nov 20, 2009, 06:12 AM
Come on ex, it was funny. What happened to your sense of humor?

excon
Nov 20, 2009, 06:24 AM
Hello again, Steve:

9 May his children be fatherless
And his wife a widow.

You'll forgive me if I don't find the humor. Are you folks that dense? Do you not see the danger is this?

Yes, you really are that dense. OR, you want someone to take a potshot at Obama...

It's ONE of the above.

excon

tomder55
Nov 20, 2009, 06:28 AM
Ex I only quoted 8

Rest assured when I quote Judges 15:16 I'm not really threatening to beat you to death with the jawbone of an a$$ .

excon
Nov 20, 2009, 06:29 AM
Ex I only quoted 8 Hello again, tom:

Context matters.

excon

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 06:46 AM
Is this thread related to this?
Former evangelist: Religious right is 'trawling for assassins' | Raw Story (http://rawstory.com/2009/11/evangelist-religious-trawling-assassins/)

ETWolverine
Nov 20, 2009, 06:53 AM
Ex I only quoted 8

Rest assured when I quote Judges 15:16 I'm not really threatening to beat you to death with the jawbone of an a$$ .

Is it actually possible to beat excon to death with his own jawbone?

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 06:54 AM
Is it actually possible to beat excon to death with his own jawbone?
What's with the nasty insults?

ETWolverine
Nov 20, 2009, 07:10 AM
What's with the nasty insults?

What? Calling him an @ss?

This entire thread is assinine. If the shoe fits...

Elliot

excon
Nov 20, 2009, 07:24 AM
This entire thread is assinine.Hello Elliot:

I knew that I'd be posting over your head with this one, Elliot. Maybe you'll be able to follow my next one...

excon

ETWolverine
Nov 20, 2009, 08:01 AM
You're posting biblical references, and you think they're over MY head?

Who is it you think you're talking to? A biblical illiterate like NK?

Elliot

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 08:06 AM
Who is it you think you're talking to? A biblical illiterate like NK?

Elliot
More insults. You having a bad day?

excon
Nov 20, 2009, 08:09 AM
You're posting biblical references, and you think they're over MY head?Hello again, Elliot:

What's over your head, isn't the biblical reference. It's the political CONTEXT that the biblical reference refers to.

You don't understand that at all... Or you do, and you'd like to see someone take Obama out. It's ONE or the OTHER.

excon

tomder55
Nov 20, 2009, 08:18 AM
When the lefty's made movies about the murder of Bush we were told "aint no big thang" . My reference is about the size of a bumper sticker ,and taken without the literal context and translation is just an amusing political statement . Nothing more or less.
Are you calling Secret Service to investigate ?

speechlesstx
Nov 20, 2009, 08:19 AM
Is this thread related to this?
Former evangelist: Religious right is ‘trawling for assassins’ | Raw Story (http://rawstory.com/2009/11/evangelist-religious-trawling-assassins/)

Schaeffer is an idiot and this is all as Elliot put it, 'assinine.' Getting all worked up over a harmless bumper sticker that is actually. I didn't notice anyone getting all worked up over the slogans used during the Bush years...

http://images5.cafepress.com/product/12312715v4_150x150_Front.jpg
http://images0.cafepress.com/product/137848260v10_240x240_Front_Color-White.jpg
http://images6.cafepress.com/product/7979566v17_240x240_Front.jpg
http://images4.cafepress.com/product/7979384v17_240x240_Front.jpg
http://images3.cafepress.com/product/11545823v16_240x240_Front.jpg
http://images7.cafepress.com/product/9318067v17_240x240_Front.jpg

And that's the mild stuff. Here's the rest (http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/).

Pardon me if I'm not moved by the outrage over Psalm 109:8

zippit
Nov 20, 2009, 08:21 AM
Your using the wrong book for your argument it should be the koran.
More violence against the infedels <sp.check

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 08:25 AM
Well those don't seem to be advocating the Christians to assassinate Bush.
And the Christian Science Monitor is reporting it as well as that guy:
Biblical anti-Obama slogan: Use of Psalm 109:8 funny or sinister? | csmonitor.com (http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/11/16/biblical-anti-obama-slogan-use-of-psalm-1098-funny-or-sinister/)

ETWolverine
Nov 20, 2009, 08:25 AM
Hello again, Elliot:

What's over your head, isn't the biblical reference. It's the political CONTEXT that the biblical reference refers to.

You don't understand that at all... Or you do, and you'd like to see someone take Obama out. It's ONE or the OTHER.

excon

So... you equate the sentence "May his days be few, may another take his place of leadership" as a call for assassination?

It couldn't be a call to vote the guy out of office after ONE term instead of two, could it? That interpretation wouldn't help your anti-conservative screed very well, would it?

Elliot

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 08:28 AM
So... you equate the sentence "May his days be few, may another take his place of leadership" as a call for assasination?

It couldn't be a call to vote the guy out of office after ONE term instead of two, could it? That interpretation wouldn't help your anti-conservative screed very well, would it?

ElliotBut the verse immediately following the psalm referenced is a bit more ominous: “Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.”

God, do I have to teach you everything about bible verses??

tomder55
Nov 20, 2009, 08:31 AM
Except I was very clear about which part of the psalm I quoted. Excon can spare me his mock outrage . I saw the same CSM article before I posted it. It is nonsense .

zippit
Nov 20, 2009, 08:34 AM
Hello Righty's:



I don't ordinarily post religious garbage,
.

excon

Very Disrespectful.:mad:

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 08:34 AM
But whenever someone posts an objectionable verse in the Christianity forums invariably the response is "but you have to look at the context". So now that's not true any more?

excon
Nov 20, 2009, 08:35 AM
So... you equate the sentence "May his days be few, may another take his place of leadership" as a call for assasinationHello again, Elliot:

Did your right wing blinders prevent you from reading the entire psalm?? Dude! This post IS about the ENTIRE psalm, or did THAT fact escape you?

I suppose it did. But, let me see if I can help. The passage right after the one you proclaim is soooo innocent, and that Speech calls just a bit of harmless fun, is THIS passage:

9 May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.

Yes, I suggest it calls for his assassination. On what planet wouldn't it?

excon

tomder55
Nov 20, 2009, 08:36 AM
Can't recall the last time I was on the religious forums here. Don't use me as an example of a good Christian or even a typical one. I'm not that worthy.

speechlesstx
Nov 20, 2009, 08:45 AM
But the verse immediately following the psalm referenced is a bit more ominous: “Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.”

God, do I have to teach you everything about bible verses????

Suddenly you guys are worried about context? The only ones using anything besides verse 8 are you fear-mongers.

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 08:47 AM
Suddenly you guys are worried about context? The only ones using anything besides verse 8 are you fear-mongers.
See https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/2094390-post23.html

speechlesstx
Nov 20, 2009, 09:04 AM
But whenever someone posts an objectionable verse in the Christianity forums invariably the response is "but you have to look at the context". So now that's not true any more?

We're not dealing with bible study we're dealing with bumper stickers. Let's play it your way anyway...

http://images4.cafepress.com/product/47643514v17_240x240_Front.jpg

That means shoot Cheney and Bush first, ask questions later. And how about that Bill Maher, who openly sympathized with bloggers wishing an attack on Cheney hadn't failed and basically wishing he were dead himself, with Barney Frank joining in on the 'joke.'


Maher: What about the people who got onto the Huffington Post — and these weren't even the bloggers, these were just the comments section — who said they, they expressed regret that the attack on Cheney failed. […]

Barney Frank: They said the bomb was wasted. (laughter and applause)

Maher: That's a funny joke. But, seriously, if this isn't China, shouldn't you be able to say that? Why did Arianna Huffington, my girlfriend, I love her, but why did she take that off right away? […] I have zero doubt that if Cheney was not in power, people wouldn't be dying needlessly tomorrow. (applause) […] I'm just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That's a fact.

And in case no one browsed my last link, here are some (printable) highlights of protesters in the U.S.

Burning Bush in effigy:
http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/143-4350_IMG.JPG

Lynching Bush:
http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/120-2044_IMG.JPG

This one speaks for itself.

Removed due to content and replaced with this link (http://www.zombietime.com/sf_anti-war_rally_oct_27_2007/IMG_9676.JPG) (profanity).

Again, pardon me while I don't share the outrage.

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 09:09 AM
That last picture looks like you. Is it?

Any outrage of yours is held exclusively and consistently for all things liberal so excuse me if I believe your opinion to not be representative.

speechlesstx
Nov 20, 2009, 09:26 AM
That last picture looks like you. Is it?

I don't have tattoos.


Any outrage of yours is held exclusively and consistently for all things liberal so excuse me if I believe your opinion to not be representative.

Again you haven't been paying attention - or you're just being selective. The pictures I just posted should draw bipartisan contempt. This bumper sticker is not even remotely close to the offensiveness and viciousness of those images.

http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/web04/2009/11/18/10/psalm-1098-bumper-sticker-26681-1258557389-0.jpg

Tell the world differently...

excon
Nov 20, 2009, 09:33 AM
Again, pardon me while I don't share the outrage.Hello again, Steve,

In my view, the difference between those and these, is that Obama is black. You'll say, it's because Obama is left.

I'd believe you too, if there were groups like the KKK that lynched white people in our past, like we did to black people, or if we had enslaved white people like we did to black people... Then, I too would chalk this up political bickering...

But, Obama and Bush aren't the same, are they?

And, even if I'm wrong, and it's just my political sensibilities that are offended, YOU KNOW that there are groups out there who have a "deep seated hatred" for black people, and are looking for ANY excuse to act on it.

If you DON'T know these people exist, we don't have a lot to talk about, do we?

The Secret Service reports that death threats have gone up 400% since Obama moved into the White House... I refuse to believe it's because of his politics.

excon

speechlesstx
Nov 20, 2009, 09:47 AM
In my view, the difference between those and these, is that Obama is black. You'll say, it's because Obama is left.

Come on, that's BS. When did you take to seeing bogeymen in every corner, when a black man was elected? You want me to believe the bumper sticker I showed is far worse than someone holding a sign saying "Death to extremist Christian terrorist pig-Bush?" You've sunken to new lows, ex. Come back to reality, we could you use you here.

tomder55
Nov 20, 2009, 09:49 AM
Racism is the argument of last resort.

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 09:51 AM
Racism is the argument of last resort.That and using the Nazi/Hitler terms.

ETWolverine
Nov 20, 2009, 09:59 AM
Hello again, Steve,

In my view, the difference between those and these, is that Obama is black. You'll say, it's because Obama is left.

I'd believe you too, if there were groups like the KKK that lynched white people in our past, like we did to black people, or if we had enslaved white people like we did to black people... Then, I too would chalk this up political bickering...

So the "Muslim Brotherhood" of Louis Farakhan and the Black Panthers and other "black supremacist theology" groups (Reverend Wright's church comes to mind) don't count?


But, Obama and Bush aren't the same, are they?

Only in your mind.


And, even if I'm wrong,

You should have stopped right there.


and it's just my political sensibilities that are offended, YOU KNOW that there are groups out there who have a "deep seated hatred" for black people, and are looking for ANY excuse to act on it.

Yep. And there are groups out there with "deep seated hatred" for white people too, and they are also looking for any excuse to act on it. Or do you deny that such groups exist?


If you DON'T know these people exist, we don't have a lot to talk about, do we?

The Secret Service reports that death threats have gone up 400% since Obama moved into the White House...

Maybe Obama's policies of nationalizing industry, nationalizing financial companies, nationalizing health care, and spending us into oblivion are 400% more inflamatory than his predecessors' policies. Maybe his 500% increase of the national budget deficit has given rise to a 400% increase in hatred toward the President. Perhaps his blatant disregard for what 70% of the people want (or rather DON'T want) with regard to healthcare reform in the USA is leading to increased hatred of Obama. Maybe his assumptions about the stupidity and lack of intelligence of the American people has insulted 400% more people than any of his predecessors.

BTW, I'd like to see evidence of this "400% increase in death threats" that you claim the Secret Service says the White House is experiencing. Do you have a source for this claim?


I refuse to believe it's because of his politics.

Excon

Exactly. You refuse to believe it, so it must not be so.

Good argument.

Elliot

speechlesstx
Nov 20, 2009, 10:02 AM
That and using the Nazi/Hitler terms.

You mean like this?

http://images7.cafepress.com/product/82531487v37_480x480_Front.jpg
http://palaceofwisdom.net/images/Links/bulerRED.jpg

Keep trying, I got a million more. Like this one:

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/wp-content/images2009/killbushshirt2.jpg

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 10:15 AM
Dude, anyone with a computer and an internet connection can find offensive images about anyone. What's your point?

You say "Keep trying", what did you mean by that? I was just agreed that hyperbole that contains racism and nazism is equaly bad.

tomder55
Nov 20, 2009, 10:36 AM
Show me the racism in the psalm passage ( 109:8)

speechlesstx
Nov 20, 2009, 11:22 AM
Dude, anyone with a computer and an internet connection can find offensive images about anyone. What's your point?

Dude, you know the point and you can't marginalize it by using your "anyone with a computer and an internet connection" line. You guys are finding conspiracies of racism and assassination out of this bumper sticker (http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/web04/2009/11/18/10/psalm-1098-bumper-sticker-26681-1258557389-0.jpg) and it's pathetic. Especially so in light of the multitude of real, obvious, verifiable threats, irresponsible comments, outright hatred, vicious t-shirts, slogans, bumper stickers and posters directed at Bush, members of his administration, Christians, conservatives and Republicans in general over the previous 8 years. The hypocrisy is absolutely stunning and the outrage over this Psalm 109:8 thing is entirely vacuous.

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 11:31 AM
You guys are finding conspiracies of racism and assassination out of this bumper sticker (http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/web04/2009/11/18/10/psalm-1098-bumper-sticker-26681-1258557389-0.jpg)
I never said anything about racism, but the assassination angle is real, we've shown that here. You spoke up about the Bush images when they surfaced, we're talking about this now as it surfaces. No one here ever said that they condone the Bush images, if fact we had nothing to do with them, you just dig up the worst you can find and attribute it to us agreeing with it - we don't.

speechlesstx
Nov 20, 2009, 11:54 AM
I never said anything about racism, but the assassination angle is real, we've shown that here.

Because one former right-wing evangelical says so and ex notes a rise in death threats, you can connect all of that to this verse. Talk about grasping at straws. If that's the kind of evidence we have to use against KSM we're in trouble.


You spoke up about the Bush images when they surfaced, we're talking about this now as it surfaces. No one here ever said that they condone the Bush images, if fact we had nothing to do with them, you just dig up the worst you can find and attribute it to us agreeing with it - we don't.

You assume way too much and give way too little credit. It has nothing to do with trying to attribute it to you agreeing with it, it's about demonstrating how ludicrous this 'outrage' and imagined threat is - especially in light of the FACTS of the previous 8 years.

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 12:19 PM
Because one former right-wing evangelical says so
No because the psalm they use says so.

ETWolverine
Nov 20, 2009, 01:04 PM
I never said anything about racism, but the assassination angle is real, we've shown that here. You spoke up about the Bush images when they surfaced, we're talking about this now as it surfaces. No one here ever said that they condone the Bush images, if fact we had nothing to do with them, you just dig up the worst you can find and attribute it to us agreeing with it - we don't.

You are quite right. Assassination is a very real threat. In order to assess that threat and where the threat comes from, we should look at historical assassinations and assassination attempts of US Presidents.

Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth, a DEMOCRAT and Confedereate sympathizer.

James Garfield was assassinated by Charles Guiteau, a former supporter and frustrated wannabe politician.

William MicKinley was assassinated by Leon Czolgosz, an anarchist and far-left winger.

John F. Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Ozwald, a leftist/marxist socialist.

Of the four successful presidential assasinations in our history, 3 were carried out by Democrats or left-wingers.

Of the FAILED attempts to assassinate US presidents:

Andrew Jackson survived an attempted assassination by Richard Lawrence. Lawrence was a pro-British sympathizer and was probably insane due to exposure to chemicals while painting.

Abraham Lincoln survived an attempted assassination by Confederate plotters in the Baltimore Plot.

Teddy Rooseveld survived an attempted assassination by far-right-winger, John F. Schrank.

Harry Truman survived an attempted assassination by Puerto Rican independence activist and marxist Oscar Collazo.

JFK survived an assassination attempt by Richard Paul Pavlic, a liberal, anti-government, anti-christian leftist.

Richard Nixon survived an assassination attempt by Samuel Byck, an anti-government activist and anarchist who believed that government was conspiring to oppress the poor.

Gerald Ford survived an assassination attempt by Lynette "squeeky" Fromme, a leftist anarchist and member of the "Manson Family".

Jimmy Carter survived a coordinated assassination attempt by a Mexican leftist assassination team.

Ronald Reagan survived being shot by John Hinkley Jr... a certified loon with no particular political leaning that I can discern.

George H. W. Bush survived an assassination attempt by Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

Bill Clinton survived an assassination attempt by Frank Eugene Corder, another nut-case with no particular political leaning that I can discern, who was just in it for the publicity.

George Bush survived an attempt by Robert Picket, an leftist nut-case who had written letters to the President naming several grievances regarding his employment.

Bush survived another possible attempt on the morning of 9-11 at 6 AM before the plains hit, when several Middle Eastern men attempted to get close to the president, but were turned away.

Bush survived a THIRD attempt when leftist Vladamir Artyunian threw a live hand grenade at him during a visit to Tbilisi, Georgia.

Of the 14 unsuccessful confirmed attempts to assasinate a President, 9 were by leftists or leftist sympathizers. ONE was from a confirmed right winger.

Evidence would seem to indicate that the major threat of assassination comes from the LEFT, not the right.

Elliot

speechlesstx
Nov 20, 2009, 01:11 PM
No because the psalm they use says so.

We're not the ones taking the verse literally, the fears expressed over this are utterly irrational and asinine. No one killed Bush over a sign that said "death to to extremist Christian terrorist pig-Bush," we're supposed to believe this bumper sticker is going to drive someone to assassinate Obama? Dude, as with ex I'd welcome you back to reality.

inthebox
Nov 20, 2009, 01:28 PM
EX

I will look into this further, but on the face of it this is a psalm of David. It is very authentic. Who, when being persecuted, does not feel a need for revenge? David openly tells God of his wishes for revenge - a very human emotion. Does David himself actually try to avenge this - to do what he prays for. No, quite the opposite, David in reality walks awy from harming Saul when he had the chance.
David is very clear that he leaves everything to God AND, despite the bad circumstances, believes in, and praises God.

I think it is a good thing that we can come to God in prayer and just let loose and vent, rather than run away from God and try to do what we may feel is right to us.


G&P

NeedKarma
Nov 20, 2009, 01:39 PM
You are quite right. Assasination is a very real threat. In order to assess that threat blah blah blahThanks for all your work but it's irrelevant.

tomder55
Nov 20, 2009, 03:03 PM
In ,thanks ,

All day I attempted to write the true context of the psalm but I could not get the words right . Clearly the psalm itself was being taken out of context. David felt himself the vicitim of accusers and rather taken things into his own hands he cryed out in frustration for God for retribution . I still didn't say it right so I'll end this right here.

paraclete
Nov 22, 2009, 02:25 PM
Ex I only quoted 8

Rest assured when I quote Judges 15:16 I'm not really threatening to beat you to death with the jawbone of an a$$ .

Tom you should know better, don't you know words have power

paraclete
Nov 22, 2009, 02:27 PM
More insults. You having a bad day?

NK he is insulting himself

paraclete
Nov 22, 2009, 10:14 PM
In ,thanks ,

all day I attempted to write the true context of the psalm but I could not get the words right . Clearly the psalm itself was being taken out of context. David felt himself the vicitim of accusers and rather taken things into his own hands he cryed out in frustration for God for retribution . I still didn't say it right so I'll end this right here.

How do you take a curse out of context? This David was some seriously disturbed dude, someone had obviously got right up his nose. Here is a guy who went from teenage idol to hunted criminal, traitor to his nation, and still came out on top. I expect you had to be there

inthebox
Nov 23, 2009, 09:32 PM
Read 1 and 2 and Samuel to get the historical context.

Not only did David curse, he committed adultery and had her husband killed. Really, he did some evil things, things that we may or will never do. David repented though - Psalm 51.

How merciful is God that he forgives the evil that David did?


G&P

speechlesstx
Nov 24, 2009, 10:35 AM
This is now the hot political wear...

http://www.freshjive.com/media/galleries/31/gallery_images/312/gallery_image/312_gallery_image_2131090869.jpg

NeedKarma
Nov 24, 2009, 10:42 AM
Perhaps you want him assassinated?

excon
Nov 24, 2009, 10:44 AM
Hello again, Steve:

Good for you, Steve. THAT is substantially different than,

May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes,

Although I doubt you'll see the distinction.

excon

NeedKarma
Nov 24, 2009, 10:46 AM
Well it's well known here that he has a deep seated hatred for the man and he chose this thread to post his "opinion" t-shirt...

speechlesstx
Nov 24, 2009, 10:59 AM
Perhaps you want him assassinated?

LOL, you are pathetic. It was from a Mediaite story (http://www.mediaite.com/online/hope-is-fading-fast-devastating-take-on-iconic-obama-poster/).

Edit: Which makes it a "current event."

speechlesstx
Nov 24, 2009, 11:03 AM
Well it's well known here that he has a deep seated hatred for the man and he chose this thread to post his "opinion" t-shirt....

Damn you're good. Wrong, but you have a good imagination.

speechlesstx
Nov 25, 2009, 08:16 AM
It seems The One is a more fitting moniker than we thought:


Why Thank You, Your Lordship (http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzY2ZTNjZDcyNjY3MjdkY2JkYjAyYjVmYWM3NDc4N2Y=) [Kevin D. Williamson]

President Obama welcomed Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to the White House with words that have inspired snickers in New Delhi:


"Yours is the first official state visit of my presidency, its fitting that you and India be so recognised," 48-year-old Obama told the 77-year-old Indian leader.

The general reaction in India has been: Who the heck does this guy think he is? Note to the Great Diplomat: When you do a head of state an honor, you don't remind him, in public, of the fact that you have done him an honor, particularly in self-aggrandizing terms of this sort.

I cannot imagine Dr. Singh responding to Obama: "I am the first state visitor of your presidency, and it is fitting that you and the United States be so recognized. Especially considering that I have the guts to stand up to the Chinese from time to time, while you're basically groveling and praying that they don't decide to divest their dollar holdings. Did I mention our 7 percent economic growth, compared to your ... 3 percent, 3.5? Now, what did you want to talk about?"

In honor of Obama's self-recognized greatness I offer a different verse of scripture, Exekiel 28:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=28&v=6&i=comm&t=KJV#vrsn/2).

tomder55
Nov 25, 2009, 08:49 AM
I'm actually pleased that the President held the banquet yesterday. He was close to blowing all the hard work that President Bush did to establish good relations between our 2 countries . He should've visited India during his recent trip .

Unfortunately his bumbling attempt at greeting the PM disguises a deeper problem.The problems have resulted from Richard Holbrooke thinking that his mission includes a resolution to the Kashmir issue. He has been pushy .
If courted properly India has influence and can be a deal maker in the Afghanistan theater . India is the regional "super power" ;not Pakistan ;not Iran. They could be a valuable asset in things like training a national security force in Afghanistan.
Partnering with India in the region is a no brainer. It should've happened a long time ago.

galveston
Nov 25, 2009, 11:34 AM
What a pity that we have so much PC that no one can enjoy a joke anymore.

Like the very funny commercial that was pulled because it might offend Italians.

We must not offend gays, black folks, hispanics, Muslims, various asian groups, etc.

It is, however OK to offend, even bash, Christians and conservatives.

Relax. Enjoy a joke even if it is at your own expense. Get a life.

NeedKarma
Nov 25, 2009, 12:16 PM
What a pity that we have so much PC that no one can enjoy a joke anymore.

Like the very funny commercial that was pulled because it might offend Italians.

We must not offend gays, black folks, hispanics, Muslims, various asian groups, etc.

It is, however ok to offend, even bash, Christians and conservatives.

Relax. Enjoy a joke even if it is at your own expense. Get a life.
Dude you bash liberals here every day - quit the whining.

galveston
Nov 25, 2009, 04:52 PM
Dude you bash liberals here every day - quit the whining.

Hey, I can still enjoy a good, clean joke regardless of the political orientation.

Are you a little thin skinned?

NeedKarma
Nov 25, 2009, 07:49 PM
What joke are you speaking of?

galveston
Nov 26, 2009, 08:49 AM
What joke are you speaking of?

There is always a plethora of political jokes. If you CAN be offended, you WILL be offended. Get over it.

galveston
Nov 26, 2009, 09:11 AM
NK asked for a joke.

Here are some that are making the rounds.

The latest collection.

The liberals are asking us to give Obama time.
We agree and think 25 to life would be appropriate.
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America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
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Q: Have you heard about McDonalds new Obama Value Meal?
A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.
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Q: What does Barack Obama call lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
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Q: What's the difference between Obama's cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers and threats to society.
The other is for housing prisoners.
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If Nancy Pelosi and Obama were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and It started to sink, who would be saved?. America !
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Q: What's the difference between Obama and his dog, Bo?
A: Bo has papers.

excon
Nov 26, 2009, 09:37 AM
Hello gal:

Some people can distinguish between funny and offensive, and some people can't.

You didn't post anything about killing him, or about gorillas or watermelons. Was that on purpose?

excon

galveston
Nov 27, 2009, 10:39 AM
Hello gal:

Some people can distinguish between funny and offensive, and some people can't.

You didn't post anything about killing him, or about gorillas or watermelons. Was that on purpose?

excon

I am certainly NOT PC, but I don't go out of my way to be offensive either.

I don't always succeed at being non offensive.

If I feel that I am right, I refuse to apologize.

PS: I think that the WORST possible thing that could happen to Obama is for someone to kill him.

We don't need another national holiday!

paraclete
Nov 27, 2009, 02:31 PM
What joke are you speaking of?

You know I went looking for an Obama joke but I couldn't find any that were funny just pathetic could that be a commentary in itsself