It's like how to kill a dragon, go for the soft squishy underbelly :eek:

Maybe she really is evil. :p

SShhhhhhhh... she's listening

SShhhhhhhh....................she's listening

sorry....

SShhhhhhhh....................she's listening


That was good;)

sorry....

That was better;)

That was better;)


Hey... :rolleyes:

Ha Ha

Alty has a soft spot :D

::running away::

I must kill you now. :cool:

I have a major soft spot for hunky Aussie men, so watch out! :D

Run my pretty, run away.

SShhhhhhhh....................she's listening

Listening, watching, planning.

You must be ever diligent. Alty always wins. :)

Well no need for me to even say...

BOO.

Well no need for me to even say...

BOO.

Ahhhhhhh! :eek:

Meanie. :(

Hahaha Random!

Hahaha Random!

I love your paw prints Shazzy, it matches rainbow dog. :)

Darn. I've got to run. Play time with the rug rats, then bedtime for them and beer time for mom. :)

Later gators.

Thanks :)

Talk to you later Alty!

Atly,

See you later... Have fun with the kids and enjoy the beers. I did at lunch time.

I know there is no such thing as too much beer, but keep that stuff away from me.
I've only been awake for a few hours and I feel rather seedy... don't drink while sitting in front of a heater, bad bad bad.

Hey................:rolleyes:


I had to pull out my glasses for the last one because it was so quiet. :D

No offence, I was impressed with both :)

Sorry, I can't spell

I had to pull out my glasses for the last one because it was so quiet. :D

No offence, I was impressed with both :)

sorry, I can't spell


Thats ok...................................

Thats ok...................................

Sneaky bugger :p

Sneaky bugger :p

He really is. :p

Sneaky bugger :p

LOL... I wonder if JD will work it out ;)

LOL..................I wonder if JD will work it out ;)

She's a smarty, she'll figure it out. After all, I did. :cool:

She's a smarty, she'll figure it out. After all, I did. :cool:


Smarty... :: pokes out tongue::

Thats ok...................................

I went to check on my fish and came back to this.

It took me a second, because it's late for me...
But, YOU WIN! I could not hear anything. :D

Smarty...................:: pokes out tongue::

Don't stick out your tongue at me unless you plan to use it. :D

Oops, wrong thread. :o

Thats ok...................................

Got that.

I just got my third greenie square... yeah!!

I just got my third greenie square...yeah !!!!


I think they musta stolen a couple of you :cool:

Well done Sir stringer :)

I think they musta stolen a couple of you :cool:

Well done Sir stringer :)

Thank you , thank you, on the business threads you don't seem to get a lot of greenies... sigh, mostly new people that can't give them.

I have a long way to go to even get near you guys.

Congrats Stringer, on all the greenies.

Congrats Stringer, on all the greenies.

Thanks bud.

Way to go Stringer.

Congrats. :)

Yay for greenies, well done Stringy!

:: Looks at Alty and JH's ::

Awwwww :(

Congrats, boss. Do I have to post three thousand more times for my third? I got to long way to go.

Congrats on the greenie!:)

Thank you again guys, but like Cats said... it's a long road to be even close to some... oh well...

Morning sunshine.
Congrats on the greenies.

Morning sunshine.
Congrats on the greenies.

I was waiting... :D

Top of the mornin' to you... :)

It takes time Stringer. It is not about the Quantity but about the quality. Just keep that in mind (;

That is meant to be a compliment to you Stringer!!

That is meant to be a compliment to you Stringer!!!

I know Joe, you have never slammed me...

Being my friend... now I can go to the 'speak easys' and say... "Joe sent me..." hee hee :rolleyes:

I was waiting....:D

Top of the mornin' to ya....:)

Feeling better today I hope?

Feeling better today I hope?

Yes, a little hon, but this will pass. The doctor said that it will take a couple weeks for my body to adjust. And that I should not exert myself too much during this time. I got very bored yesterday and did some work in the yard... and I had some problems, but they passed. Another week or so I guess...

P.I.T.A; 'pain in the a**'

It takes time Stringer. It is not about the Quantity but about the quality. Just keep that in mind (;

By the way... hello. Ha ha
Like you said, takes time.

Yes, a little hon, but this will pass. The doctor said that it will take a couple weeks for my body to adjust. And that I should not exert myself too much during this time. I got very bored yesterday and did some work in the yard ...and I had some problems, but they passed. Another week or so I guess...

P.I.T.A; 'pain in the a**'

That was some shot. Wow.
Well take it easy. Good time for Marta to take care of you.

Heading to the gym now kids. I will be back in a bit. Got to keep the beach bod in shape. (laughing... whatever)

That was some shot. Wow.
Well take it easy. Good time for Marta to take care of ya.

That she does.

That was some shot. Wow.
Well take it easy. Good time for Marta to take care of ya.

What shot? What happened? I thought I read all of the posts! :(

I'm sorry you were not feeling good Stringer and I hope it gets better soon :)

No Dahlia, that was from another thread, the castle. Stringer had got shots for diabetes, and he's getting nausea.

No Dahlia, that was from another thread, the castle. Stringer had got shots for diabetes, and he's getting nausea.

What shots for diabetes ? I didn't know stringer was diabetic. Hi stringer, are you type 1 and getting insulin shots? How come you don't do your own ? If you don't want to elucidate, then I understand. Its your own business.

Curious tick

I know of a very good diabetes site if your interested just give us a shout. Its not an easy thing to live with.

Still sending out thoughts and prayers for Starby xxxxx c'mon girl ! Xxxx Hugs.

What shots for diabetes ? I didnt know stringer was diabetic. Hi stringer, are you type 1 and getting insulin shots? How come you dont do your own ? If you dont want to elucidate, then I understand. Its your own business.

curious tick

HI Tick, not a problem talking about it.

I am type 11, I have been on Metformin for the last couple years now I am also taking Byetta shots twice a day (in the stomach), a lot of nausea for the first couple weeks.

I know of a very good diabetes site if your interested just give us a shout. Its not an easy thing to live with.

Still sending out thoughts and prayers for Starby xxxxx c'mon girl ! xxxx Hugs.

Thanks, yes, please post the address... It is a pain in the butt, energy levels drop to '0' at times. I understand the basics of diabetes and my wife is a great cheerleader for me... but at some level I still can't believe this...

I'm sorry your going through this stringer. My sister is... I think the doctor called 'potentially diabetic' where she Isn't yet, but she could very easily become diabetic. And she is taking metformin. She is angry about it though because it caused her to miscarry :( but I'm sure you dotn have an issue with that ;)

im sorry your going thru this stringer. my sister is...i think the doctor called 'potentially diabetic' where she ISNT yet, but she could very easily become diabetic. and she is taking metformin. she is angry about it though becasue it caused her to miscarry :( but im sure you dotn have an issue with that ;)

It's tough, my attitude is "look up, get up...don't ever give up."

Thanks for your concern, I am OK.

And noooo, not the last time I looked...

Thanks, yes, please post the address... It is a pain in the butt, energy levels drop to '0' at times. I understand the basics of diabetes and my wife is a great cheerleader for me...but at some level I still can't believe this....


It really isn't easy having to watch what your eating all the time and also the BS drops, I had gestational diabetes (in pregancy) and also had type 11 as well had to have insulin whilst pregnant, its not nice injecting yourself. I have now been cleared of diabetes although I am potnential borderline diabetic.

Anyway enough of that, here's the link, I'm sparkle73 on this site, I know it says uk but it is now a global site. Not that it matters.

All the best with it.

Oops edit: going to have to stop typing one handed whikst eating my tea at the same time LOL http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/

Thanks, yes, please post the address... It is a pain in the butt, energy levels drop to '0' at times. I understand the basics of diabetes and my wife is a great cheerleader for me...but at some level I still can't believe this....

Stringer once its under control and you understand your body its not so bad. Maybe easier said for me since I am not diabetic. I grew up with it. My mom, dad and brother. Like I said to you before my husband has been for over 30 years. There are times I just look in his eyes and I know he is low. I almost lost him one night he wasn't responsive and I tested and he was only 28. OUCH! But he is much worse then you and has been for many many years. Plus that one night we drank a lot. Which he isn't supposed to do. Let me tell you I can answer it all.

Stringer once its under control and you understand your body its not so bad. Maybe easier said for me since I am not diabetic. I grew up with it. My mom, dad and brother. Like I said to you before my husband has been for over 30 years. There are times I just look in his eyes and I know he is low. I almost lost him one night he wasnt responsive and I tested and he was only 28. OUCH! But he is much worse then you and has been for many many years. Plus that one night we drank alot. Which he isnt supposed to do. Let me tell you I can answer it all.

Thanks Sunny, my problem, beside dizziness and energy drops is that I am in the range of 180 average. The diabetes counselor threw a lot of stuff at me this time; loss of limbs, eyesight, liver and kidney damage... on and on..

This is tough for me because I was always active in sports and had a lot of energy... now, well different.

You will figure everything out Stringer.
It takes time to re-adjust what your body needs, you'll be back to your old self in no time :)

You will figure everything out Stringer.
It takes time to re-adjust what your body needs, you'll be back to your old self in no time :)

Ha haaaa, and that's good right? :D:eek::) (Thanks hon/)

I was diagnosed with type 11 three years ago and take one metformin a day, I reduced it myself from l-l/2 because upon testing my blood sugar every couple of days I found that I was quite stable and within normal ranges taking the meds.

I am a very active person, dragonboat racing practice is quite extreme. Our races are 250 meters and finish in 2 min. so you can understand why I say extreme. This takes a toll on my blood sugar and if not careful I bottom out during sleep, lately even after having a good supper directly after practice in the evening. I never miss a meal ! My weight is stable and I know when my sugar is dropping and compensate right away.

Does your doctor have you on Byetta for weight loss ? It is very important for diabetics to keep their weight stable and yes, the downside is kidney disease if we are not careful.

Thank you for responding, I actually found all the posts pertaining to this, not because I was nosy, but because my interest in this is always high, not only because I am a diabetic, but because many of my Red Cross clients are diabetic as well, in all different stages, some more worse then you can imagine and living one day a time.

Kindest regards

Tick

I was diagnosed with type 11 three years ago and take one metformin a day, I reduced it myself from l-l/2 because upon testing my blood sugar every couple of days i found that I was quite stable and within normal ranges taking the meds.

I am a very active person, dragonboat racing practice is quite extreme. Our races are 250 meters and finish in 2 min. so you can understand why I say extreme. This takes a toll on my blood sugar and if not careful I bottom out during sleep, lately even after having a good supper directly after practice in the evening. I never miss a meal ! My weight is stable and I know when my sugar is dropping and compensate right away.

Does your doctor have you on Byetta for weight loss ? It is very important for diabetics to keep their weight stable and yes, the downside is kidney disease if we are not careful.

Thank you for responding, I actually found all the posts pertaining to this, not because I was nosy, but because my interest in this is always high, not only because I am a diabetic, but because many of my Red Cross clients are diabetic as well, in all different stages, some more worse then you can imagine and living one day a time.

kindest regards

tick

This 'stuff' is scary Tick and in my case demanding too. Thanks for the information.

Stringer

I posted this on another thread also but it's fun...


http://www.spiegl.org/humor/liberty/liberty.html

Thanks Sunny, my problem, beside dizziness and energy drops is that I am in the range of 180 average. The diabetes counselor threw a lot of stuff at me this time; loss of limbs, eyesight, liver and kidney damage...on and on..

This is tough for me because I was always active in sports and had a lot of energy...now, well different.

Yep my husband gets real tired when he runs high. Now that he is on the insulin pump he is so much better. Less grumpy all the time. He also is in to sports and still is. He does Broomball all winter and softball all summer. The exercise is good.
But what the doc said is true. Last March we had to get an eye operation on him. Something to do with bleeding in his eye and his sight was going. Its all good now, but the other eye is going. They are keeping tabs on it and eventually that will need to be operated on. Of course he shouldn't drink and he does. He stopped for awhile and then started again. The worse thing for him.

You will figure everything out Stringer.
It takes time to re-adjust what your body needs, you'll be back to your old self in no time :)

Exactly what I was thinking Shaz. Its just a lifestyle change.

I almost wish, Stringer, that I didn't know as much as I do from working with this disease.

Just got back from seeing my Saturday morning client who is 88, diagnosed with type 2 when she was 65. Followed everything to the letter, glucose never went over recommended point. We test different then you, glucose no higher then 7 before breakfast and no higher then 8 after eating breakfast.

At her age now, has bad edema both legs (swelling and water retention) normally the water escapes through blisters on the legs and then need medical attention.

Her kidneys are failing and her doctor is trying to avoid dialysis and issued her a hard line diaretic and she lost 8 pounds in one week from taking it. Her legs are looking better.

She has other medical issues, bad heart etc. but no blood pressure problems, but I am starting to think that I am not looking forward to being over 80, unless they have some breakthroughs in the diabetic field.

Have a great day, Stringer, take care of yourself and many hugs.

Anne

Yep my husband gets real tired when he runs high. Now that he is on the insulin pump he is so much better. Less grumpy all the time. He also is in to sports and still is. He does Broomball all winter and softball all summer. The excercise is good.
But what the doc said is true. Last March we had to get an eye operation on him. Something to do with bleeding in his eye and his sight was going. Its all good now, but the other eye is going. They are keeping tabs on it and eventually that will need to be operated on. Of course he shouldnt drink and he does. He stopped for awhile and then started again. The worse thing for him.

I sincerely wish him well hon. I am not looking forward to any of this... he is very fortunate to have you sweet. You are a good woman and wife... :)

I never drank a lot, my dad was an alcoholic and it was driven into my head all my life so I never did, maybe one or two a month. However the other changes; food, life style, etc... this is a bummer... :(:(:(

I almost wish, Stringer, that I didnt know as much as I do from working with this disease.

Just got back from seeing my Saturday morning client who is 88, diagnosed with type 2 when she was 65. Followed everything to the letter, glucose never went over recommended point. We test different then you, glucose no higher then 7 before breakfast and no higher then 8 after eating breakfast.

At her age now, has bad edema both legs (swelling and water retention) normally the water escapes through blisters on the legs and then need medical attention.

Her kidneys are failing and her doctor is trying to avoid dialysis and issued her a hard line diaretic and she lost 8 pounds in one week from taking it. Her legs are looking better.

She has other medical issues, bad heart etc. but no blood pressure problems, but I am starting to think that I am not looking forward to being over 80, unless they have some breakthroughs in the diabetic field.

Have a great day, Stringer, take care of yourself and many hugs.

anne

Yeah Tick, like I said, this stuff IS scary, like heart disease, a silent killer... :(

Exactly what I was thinking Shaz. Its just a lifestyle change.

For a man who pretty much did and got what he wanted most of his life, this lifestyle change is dramatic and difficult hon. By the way, I 'earned' all those things, just thought that I would add that... :)

For a man who pretty much did and got what he wanted most of his life, this lifestyle change is dramatic and difficult hon. By the way, I 'earned' all those things, just thought that I would add that.....:)

You will be fine. It will just take some time to get used to. You will get used to how your body feels and you will know what you need to do. One positive way to look at it is there are worse things out there you could get.

I haven't mentioned the new avi has that effect your pics did when I saw them. Striking.

You will be fine. It will just take some time to get used to. You will get used to how your body feels and you will know what you need to do. One positive way to look at it is there are worse things out there you could get.

I havent mentioned the new avi has that effect your pics did when I saw them. Striking.

Weeellll... thank you pilgrim... :)

Weeellll....thank you pilgrim.....:)

Humphrey bogart was always very photogenic, Stringer. How about one with both he and lauren bacall. Always loved the two of them together.

Tick

Your quote, stringer, is typical John Wayne...

humphrey bogart was always very photogenic, Stringer. How about one with both he and lauren bacall. Always loved the two of them together.

tick

Actually Tick I have been a fan of his and have all his movies on DVD. So much so that when we purchased the furniture for our dining room, we bought the 1940's style Bogart table, chairs, lamps, large table, and more. I have a large 4 1/2 foot X 3 1/2 foot original poster framed in a 1940's frame on the wall along with three other smaller ones. And I have three biographies on the table with the lamps; One Bogart, one Becall and Ingrid Bergman.

I searched forever for a bust of Bogart under $1,800.00. The rights were purchased some time ago by a man who wants an arm and a leg for even a 6" high one.

Your quote, stringer, is typical John Wayne.......

Yeah... loved his style too...

Stringer once its under control and you understand your body its not so bad. Maybe easier said for me since I am not diabetic. I grew up with it. My mom, dad and brother. Like I said to you before my husband has been for over 30 years. There are times I just look in his eyes and I know he is low. I almost lost him one night he wasnt responsive and I tested and he was only 28. OUCH! But he is much worse then you and has been for many many years. Plus that one night we drank alot. Which he isnt supposed to do. Let me tell you I can answer it all.



I walked the walk with my husband for over 5 years. He could do just about anything and get his sugar to level out EXCEPT drink alcohol. One alcoholic drink and he was over the edge.

Can't even tell you how many times - and nothing to do with alcohol because he knew he couldn't drink - I found him unresponsive.

There should be more education about Diabetes - so many people think it's a matter of not eating sugar OR "simply" giving yourself injections. Few people understand the organ damage one high, one low can cause.

The more education, the better -

I walked the walk with my husband for over 5 years. He could do just about anything and get his sugar to level out EXCEPT drink alcohol. One alcoholic drink and he was over the edge.

Can't even tell you how many times - and nothing to do with alcohol because he knew he couldn't drink - I found him unresponsive.

There should be more education about Diabetes - so many people think it's a matter of not eating sugar OR "simply" giving yourself injections. Few people understand the organ damage one high, one low can cause.

The more education, the better -

I hear you Judy. When I found my husband unresponsive they said we were lucky. Him being like that for any length of time will cause brain damage. ( some days I wonder... ok sick joke) But that's not the firs time. He has told me times when he was a child and was in the hospital for being low. He told me he saw himself laying on the bed and his mother, sister and sister-in-law were there. He had an out of body. Scary. Took him years to tell me that. But its true. Its not about what your eating and the shots and medicine. Even stress can make your sugar levels go crazy. Anything can do it. You just have to know your own body.

Good morning world!!

We Hope you enjoyed The Laughter is an Instant Vacation Movie (http://www.thelaughtermovie.com/land.php)

Nature's Inspiration Movie (http://www.naturesinspirationmovie.com/)

Good videos Stringer! Love them both! :)

Good videos Stringer! Love them both! :)

Thanks Unc.

Has anyone heard anything new about Starby/Jo?

I had a dream about her last night so now I'm spooked - !

Anybody heard?

Nothing on my end, Alty has been a bit slack with the e-mail updates :p

I hope not hearing anything is good though.

Has anyone heard anything new about Starby/Jo?

I had a dream about her last night so now I'm spooked - !

Anybody heard?

I was just thinking this morning we haven't heard anything. I was worried when I saw the thread had a post to it.

I am anxious for an update as well.I think about Jo everyday.

I am anxious for an update as well.I think about Jo everyday.

Same here even Vaughn was worried about her and asking questions and he has never talked to her, I just explained what happened.

I found this very uplifting... hope you all do too.

http://www.danceintherainmovie.com/index.html

That was beautiful Stringer.

I found this very uplifting....hope you all do too.

Learning to Dance in the Rain Movie (http://www.danceintherainmovie.com/index.html)

I loved it and thank-you! Just what the doctor ordered and I too give thanks :)

Some of us probably did that (dancing in the rain) when we were younger. We just forgot how. I will do, but only in my backyard, or they will think I am crazier then they already imagined !

A wet tickle

Same here even Vaughn was worried about her and asking questions and he has never talked to her, I just explained what happened.

I hope that she can feel our love and concern in some way :)

Some of us probably did that (dancing in the rain) when we were younger. We just forgot how. I will do, but only in my backyard, or they will think I am crazier then they already imagined !

a wet tickle

Very true Tick, some people grow up and never do those things again... it's sad.
It makes you feel free and alive, like jumping into the cold ocean and just being thankful that it is there and that you can feel the cold water around you.

Some of us probably did that (dancing in the rain) when we were younger. We just forgot how. I will do, but only in my backyard, or they will think I am crazier then they already imagined !

a wet tickle

I love the rain and I will walk in it whenever I can! I haven't danced in it lately and it isn't crazy at all Tickle,its freeing :)

very true tick, some people grow up and never do those things again... It's sad.
It makes you feel free and alive, like jumping into the cold ocean and just being thankful that it is there and that you can feel the cold water around you.



Very nicely said

Hugs

No updates for a while, sorry all.

Her Aunt is getting ready to move and also just got over a bad bought of the flu, so I'm not surprised I haven't heard much.

Rebbie talks to Sally when she can (Sally is Jo's best friend) and Sally talks to Jo about us all the time, tells her how much we love her and miss her, so yes, she knows we're thinking about her and praying for her.

No news is good news. Right? :)

That's what we are hoping for!

I'm glad she is getting our messages and knows we are thinking of her.

No updates for a while, sorry all.

Her Aunt is getting ready to move and also just got over a bad bought of the flu, so I'm not surprised I haven't heard much.

Rebbie talks to Sally when she can (Sally is Jo's best friend) and Sally talks to Jo about us all the time, tells her how much we love her and miss her, so yes, she knows we're thinking about her and praying for her.

No news is good news. Right? :)

Thank you hon! I agree,no news is good news.I am glad to hear she knows we are all very concerned and praying for her.If positive energy is healing I think we are on the right tract.

I agree Arty. Starby seems to be getting better. I'm aware that the docs are still skeptic, but the hope is still there, ready to be caught.

Well, and I always think time can change a lot of things and certainly far more time has passed than anyone ever expected.

Prayers continue, of course, and maybe, just maybe the answer will be "yes."

I agree no news is good news. Thanks for keeping us updated alty *hugs* I am so saddend by this and I didn't even know her, I can't imagine what this is doing to you and to all the other people on this board who came to know and love her.

I love the rain and I will walk in it whenever I can! I haven't danced in it lately and it isn't crazy at all Tickle,its freeing :)

I am the same way! Especially when I have my son with me and we see puddles. We hold hands and run and jump as high and as hard as we can. To me, those are memories for him. Memories he might carry down to his kids.

Ah, and for the dancing in the rain clip, it was really nice. This site, Stringer, is full of good clips I see! All so wonderful!

i agree no news is good news. thanks for keeping us updated alty *hugs* i am so saddend by this and i didnt even know her, i can't imagine what this is doing to you and to all the other people on this board who came to know and love her.

I agree jennie.
I came in here and not long after all this happened. I may have talked to her but I was so new that I don't remember. My loss I am sure. With any luck we will have the chance to meet.

I am the same way! Especially when I have my son with me and we see puddles. We hold hands and run and jump as high and as hard as we can. To me, those are memories for him. Memories he might carry down to his kids.

Those are the memories that last a life time. The little times you decide not to be the adult, but let your inner child come out.

I think that as adults, we often spend too much time being serious, running our households, raising our kids, we forget what it is to have a bit of fun, to let our guard down.

My fondest memories of my parents are the times they surprised me and just had fun. The time my parents were going out to dinner. My dad was all dressed up and ready to go, outside waiting on my mom. My friend and I were having a water fight. I sprayed my dad accidentally, expected him to get angry. Instead, he turned on the hose and we had a full on water fight. He was soaked. My mom came out, all dressed up, took one look at my dad, didn't know whether to laugh or cry. She just shook her head, told him he was a child. His response, a blast with the hose. We all ended up soaked and instead of going out that night we stayed in, ordered pizza and my friend got to sleep over.

It's my fondest memory to this day.

I agree jennie.
I came in here and not long after all this happened. I may have talked to her but I was so new that I dont remember. My loss I am sure. With any luck we will have the chance to meet.

I hope you get the chance to talk to her. She is a very special lady.

Those are the memories that last a life time. The little times you decide not to be the adult, but let your inner child come out.

I think that as adults, we often spend too much time being serious, running our households, raising our kids, we forget what it is to have a bit of fun, to let our guard down.

My fondest memories of my parents are the times they surprised me and just had fun. The time my parents were going out to dinner. My dad was all dressed up and ready to go, outside waiting on my mom. My friend and I were having a water fight. I sprayed my dad accidentally, expected him to get angry. Instead, he turned on the hose and we had a full on water fight. He was soaked. My mom came out, all dressed up, took one look at my dad, didn't know whether to laugh or cry. She just shook her head, told him he was a child. His response, a blast with the hose. We all ended up soaked and instead of going out that night we stayed in, ordered pizza and my friend got to sleep over.

It's my fondest memory to this day.

Eww! That's sure something that one won't ever forget Alty! :)

I hope you get the chance to talk to her. She is a very special lady.

That she is.

She has a heart of gold, a quick wit, and two feathers on her back. Wait... what? ;)

She's a very good friend. I'm honored to know her.

Those are the memories that last a life time. The little times you decide not to be the adult, but let your inner child come out.

I think that as adults, we often spend too much time being serious, running our households, raising our kids, we forget what it is to have a bit of fun, to let our guard down.

My fondest memories of my parents are the times they surprised me and just had fun. The time my parents were going out to dinner. My dad was all dressed up and ready to go, outside waiting on my mom. My friend and I were having a water fight. I sprayed my dad accidentally, expected him to get angry. Instead, he turned on the hose and we had a full on water fight. He was soaked. My mom came out, all dressed up, took one look at my dad, didn't know whether to laugh or cry. She just shook her head, told him he was a child. His response, a blast with the hose. We all ended up soaked and instead of going out that night we stayed in, ordered pizza and my friend got to sleep over.

It's my fondest memory to this day.

For some reason that made me almost tear up. I had it all pictured out in my head. My parents were not like that at all. I was the last of 6 children and my mom was sick of raising us. I was a huge bother to her and for the most part just grew up alone. She went out a lot on my dad and those were my memories. Which is why in return I do as you just said. At random times I just let go and my son loves it. I hate what the world is today and what its going to be when he is an adult. I am trying my hardest to keep his little heart young.

Sorry I am getting sappy.

Eww! That's sure something that one won't ever forget Alty! :)

Haha, indeed, great story!

You really need to get to work on that biography Alty.

For some reason that made me almost tear up. I had it all pictured out in my head. My parents were not like that at all. I was the last of 6 children and my mom was sick of raising us. I was a huge bother to her and for the most part just grew up alone. She went out alot on my dad and those were my memories. Which is why in return I do as you just said. At random times I just let go and my son loves it. I hate what the world is today and what its going to be when he is an adult. I am trying my hardest to keep his little heart young.

I have to say, I had the best parents in the world. I'm an only child, a result of 8 years of trying, surgeries, disappointment, finally I came along and my parents were thrilled.

We were very close. After I married and left home we still had dinner together every Sunday, saw each other a few times a week, went on holidays together. They had an amazing relationship with Jared, his loss hurts me more then my own.

My father was a major family man. We meant the world to him, we were the motivation for everything he did. When Jared came along he was thrilled. He loved my little boy more then anything and that's saying a lot because his love for me was not measurable.

Both my parents died in 2001, I was 30. They passed 6 1/2 months apart, both of cancer.

Here's the amazing thing. Yes, I miss them, yes I mourn them, not a day goes by that I don't think about them and wish they were here, but... I am one of the luckiest people I know. I had 30 amazing years with them. I had more in those 30 years then most people get in a lifetime. I have memories that will last me until the day I die and that will carry on in my children. I had the best, I was blessed.

Now who's getting sappy?

Pictures? Okay.

My mom with Jared
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My Dad 1 year before he died.
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Ohh! Cute Jared! :p

Great photos Alty :)
Losing one parent would be hard enough but losing both so close together would have been unbearable.

I have to say, I had the best parents in the world. I'm an only child, a result of 8 years of trying, surgeries, disappointment, finally I came along and my parents were thrilled.

We were very close. After I married and left home we still had dinner together every Sunday, saw eachother a few times a week, went on holidays together. They had an amazing relationship with Jared, his loss hurts me more then my own.

My father was a major family man. We meant the world to him, we were the the motivation for everything he did. When Jared came along he was thrilled. He loved my little boy more then anything and that's saying alot because his love for me was not measurable.

Both my parents died in 2001, I was 30. They passed 6 1/2 months apart, both of cancer.

Here's the amazing thing. Yes, I miss them, yes I mourn them, not a day goes by that I don't think about them and wish they were here, but.... I am one of the luckiest people I know. I had 30 amazing years with them. I had more in those 30 years then most people get in a lifetime. I have memories that will last me until the day I die and that will carry on in my children. I had the best, I was blessed.

Now who's getting sappy?

Pictures? Okay.

My mom with Jared
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My Dad 1 year before he died.
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That's amazing that you can say that. I wish I could. We had tradegy early in my family. A terrible police chase killed my first born brother when I was only 5. I barely remember it to not at all really. My parents should have went to counseling. But they didn't and it caused hardship and emotions that were never dealt with and they drifted and split when I was 18. They stuck it out many years for the sake of us kids. But I lost out. I have no family memories since they just were living separate lives under the same roof. Then a few months after they split on of my other brothers killed himself. Again, no one talks. My family just won't talk. Kills me because there are so many things about my family and I have no idea because they all fell apart before I could appreciate it.

Thats amazing that you can say that. I wish I could. We had tradegy early in my family. A terrible police chase killed my first born brother when I was only 5. I barely remember it to not at all really. My parents should have went to counseling. But they didnt and it caused hardship and emotions that were never dealt with and they drifted and split when I was 18. They stuck it out many years for the sake of us kids. But I lost out. I have no family memories since they just were living seperate lives under the same roof. Then a few months after they split on of my other brothers killed himself. Again, no one talks. My family just wont talk. Kills me because there are so many things about my family and I have no idea because they all fell apart before I could appreciate it.

Sweetie, I am a firm believer that we make our own future, that we can change our lives.

My parents were great, my childhood was not ideal. Not because of them, never because of them, and had they known the things I'd gone through they would have stopped it, they would have seen to it that I got all the help I needed. I was too scared to tell them, they never knew, and I'm glad that they died without that knowledge.

I could live each day in the past, never letting myself move past it, but I choose not to. Every day is a new day, every experience is something to be cherished. My children, my family, my friends, I'm a lucky lady.

Don't live in the past sweetie, look to the future, make it your own, live it, own it, it's yours for the taking. :)

I have to say, I had the best parents in the world. I'm an only child, a result of 8 years of trying, surgeries, disappointment, finally I came along and my parents were thrilled.

We were very close. After I married and left home we still had dinner together every Sunday, saw eachother a few times a week, went on holidays together. They had an amazing relationship with Jared, his loss hurts me more then my own.

My father was a major family man. We meant the world to him, we were the the motivation for everything he did. When Jared came along he was thrilled. He loved my little boy more then anything and that's saying alot because his love for me was not measurable.

Both my parents died in 2001, I was 30. They passed 6 1/2 months apart, both of cancer.

Here's the amazing thing. Yes, I miss them, yes I mourn them, not a day goes by that I don't think about them and wish they were here, but.... I am one of the luckiest people I know. I had 30 amazing years with them. I had more in those 30 years then most people get in a lifetime. I have memories that will last me until the day I die and that will carry on in my children. I had the best, I was blessed.

Now who's getting sappy?

Pictures? Okay.

My mom with Jared
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My Dad 1 year before he died.
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Not sappy! Beautiful! I think you resemble your Dad.Those beautiful eyes :)

Sweetie, I am a firm believer that we make our own future, that we can change our lives.

My parents were great, my childhood was not ideal. Not because of them, never because of them, and had they known the things I'd gone through they would have stopped it, they would have seen to it that I got all the help I needed. I was too scared to tell them, they never knew, and I'm glad that they died without that knowledge.

I could live each day in the past, never letting myself move past it, but I choose not to. Every day is a new day, every experience is something to be cherished. My children, my family, my friends, I'm a lucky lady.

Don't live in the past sweetie, look to the future, make it your own, live it, own it, it's yours for the taking. :)

I don't live in the past really. It bugs me but I don't dwell on it. But with my family and things that have happened and the distance with us all I don't really feel like I have family. I sat in a hospital room for 7 hours with my dad a few weeks back and I had nothing to say to him. I just don't have that family bond and I don't know why. I think growing up the last child and being stuck during the rough times it caused me to have the distance. I don't know. I have no idea. But it was nice. He talked and mentioned about his times in the navy that I knew nothing about and it was nice. All these years he traveled the world before I was born and I had no idea. Strange.

I must have taken a sappy pill today.

I dont live in the past really. It bugs me but I dont dwell on it. But with my family and things that have happened and the distance with us all I dont really feel like I have family. I sat in a hospital room for 7 hours with my dad a few weeks back and I had nothing to say to him. I just dont have that family bond and I dont know why. I think growing up the last child and being stuck during the rough times it caused me to have the distance. I dont know. I have no idea. But it was nice. He talked and mentioned about his times in the navy that I knew nothing about and it was nice. All these years he traveled the world before I was born and I had no idea. Strange.

I must have taken a sappy pill today.

Not sappy at all Sun! I think when tragedy strikes a family,you can go two ways,stick together and hurt together or put up protective walls to try to stop the pain.

It sounds like everyone was in their own personal hell and no one knew how to connect.

The good news ,its not too late.The conversation about his Navy life was a beginning.
I hope you have more talks in the future.Sometimes all you have to do is plant the seed.

Not sappy at all Sun! I think when tragedy strikes a family,you can go two ways,stick together and hurt together or put up protective walls to try to stop the pain.

It sounds like everyone was in their own personal hell and no one knew how to connect.

The good news ,its not too late.The conversation about his Navy life was a beginning.
I hope you have more talks in the future.Sometimes all you have to do is plant the seed.

Thanks artlady.
That's true for sure. I do agree.

So on a lighter note... how about those Mets? Lol

So on a lighter note...how about those Mets? lol

I'm a die hard Yankee fan :) Its almost like a family law that you be one ;)

I'm Canadian. Mets? Yankees? Bah! ;)

I don't even watch it. I just like to say that to change the topic.
I prefer football actually. Love the hype with the super bowl and the Monday night wings and drafts and all the good stuff.

I am Canadian. Hockey Rules big time. How about the those Leafs, eh ?

Tick

Hehe. Cubs/bears :D all the way :D

I am Canadian. Hockey Rules big time. How about the those Leafs, eh ?

tick

The leafs look like there making lots of good changes. Maybe I will actually watch them this year. Many good changes. Happy that Burke is around. Doing what he said he was going to do.

She just shook her head, told him he was a child. His response, a blast with the hose.

Made me chuckle!

Sorry I am getting sappy.

Not a problem. :):)

Made me chuckle!!

You should have been there. I almost peed my pants I laughed so hard. Actually, I may have peed my pants. :p :o

hehe. cubs/bears :D all the way :D

Hello! SOX :D

so on a lighter note...how about those mets? Lol

Mets?? :d

I dont even watch it. I just like to say that to change the topic.
I prefer football actually. Love the hype with the super bowl and the monday night wings and drafts and all the good stuff.

My kind of gal... :):):)

hehe. cubs/bears :D all the way :D

:eek::eek::eek: Hate the Cubs... love the Bears... Didn't know that you were a fan Jennie.

My kind of gal.........:):):)

Soul mates.
Don't worry, with your diabetes I will drink your share of the drafts hon. I have no problem with that. Just throw your arm around me when we leave, I might need the balance.

I am Canadian. Hockey Rules big time. How about the those Leafs, eh ?

tick

Go Pens... he hee... Remember, I am from Pittsburgh originally... :)

Soul mates.
Dont worry, with your diabetes I will drink your share of the drafts hon. I have no problem with that. Just throw your arm around me when we leave, I might need the balance.

"Soul Mates"... yeppers.. :D

And I am not quite ready to give up all my drinks :eek:.

You know you can always count on my arm... and getting home safely...

"Soul Mates"....yeppers..:D

And I am not quite ready to give up all my drinks :eek:.

You know you can always count on my arm....and getting home safely...............

Hang with me you might drink a little more. I seem to have that effect. I haven't figured it out yet. Maybe I am a pusher. Who knows. I have a good time anyway.

How are you feeling today? Better I hope.

By the way Starby... if you ever get to see this, which we are all hoping, I was looking over the picture thread for kicks yesterday and came across you a couple times. You're a hot looking number girl!! Get back and knock these boys socks off.

Hang with me you might drink a little more. I seem to have that effect. I havent figured it out yet. Maybe I am a pusher. Who knows. I have a good time anyways.

How are ya feeling today? Better I hope.

Thanks for asking Sunny, physically pretty well, stress (wise)... well, you know how the business economy is... it is hitting home now... so it is requiring much more effort and I'm continuing to fight the demons... :)

Thanks for asking Sunny, physically pretty well, stress (wise)...well, you know how the business economy is....it is hitting home now....so it is requiring much more effort and I'm continuing to fight the demons....:)

Yep I hear you. I thought this new prez was going to be Mr.Right and it would all turn around. Can't happen over night I know that. But I haven't seen anything impressive too much yet. I see the economy hitting here where I work. But so far so good. Getting by OK I guess since the doors still unlock every morning.

Yep I hear ya. I thought this new prez was going to be Mr.Right and it would all turn around. Can't happen over night I know that. But I havent seen anything impressive to much yet. I see the economy hitting here where I work. But so far so good. Getting by ok I guess since the doors still unlock every morning.

I'm a fighter and a survivor hon, it's not good presently and the stress levels are off he charts, BUT I will never allow failure, never have.

I'll be fine... thanks.

:eek::eek::eek: Hate the Cubs....love the Bears....Didn't know that you were a fan Jennie.

I didn't know you were either :p my whole family grew up in chicago, the cubs aren't too bad. All they have to do is drag a goat onto the field. But they just won't do it

Sox SUCK!! Haha.

I like socks, they keep my feet warm.

i didnt kno you were either :p my whole family grew up in chicago, the cubs arent too bad. all they have to do is drag a goat onto the field. but they just wont do it

sox SUCK!!!! haha.

I'm from Pittsburgh originally, I have been in the Chicago area for a long time now...

Yeah I don't like the Sox or the Cubs, broke my heart way too many times. :rolleyes:

Lol yeah. I'm accually not sure why I'm not supposed to like the sox. My uncle does and he is like the 'pretend outcast' of the family. Everyone likes the cubs. Don't ask me why we aren't suppose to like the sox :P

I like socks, they keep my feet warm.

Shaz I nearly just peed myself! Good one!

Hahah me too sunny

lol yeah. im accually not sure why im not supposed to like the sox. my uncle does and he is like the 'pretend outcast' of the family. everyone likes the cubs. dont ask me why we arent suppose to like the sox :P

Ha, I think it is a north---south sider thing mostly Jennie... :rolleyes:

Maybe. We were in lockport/jolliet area. Does that count? We were FAIRLY close to chicago, but I wouldn't say were were neighbors. Still took a good amount of time to drive there

maybe. we were in lockport/jolliet area. does that count? we were FAIRLY close to chicago, but i wouldnt say were were neighbors. still took a good ammount of time to drive there

You were about 15 - 20 miles from me, near Naperville, IL.

EDIT: What took you to Phoenix? Don't tell me that you were a telephone line repair person like like the song... Glen Campbell :) Or, I think that is the place he says in the song?

I lived in Oswego for a while and worked in Naperville. Naper Settlement. :) It was awesome! ;)

I lived in Oswego for a while and worked in Naperville. Naper Settlement. :) It was awesome! ;)

Hey sweetheart how at YOU??
Long time...

Wow, been there a lot of times... great experience, I must drive by it 5 times a week. :)

The "River Walk" in the evening is simply beautiful, a wonderful experience. And great restaurants and shopping too.

EDIT: Oswego is a nice area too HC.

You were about 15 - 20 miles from me, near Naperville, IL.

EDIT: What took you to Phoenix? Don't tell me that you were a telephone line repair person like like the song....Glen Campbell :) Or, I think that is the place he says in the song?

Haha well, my dad was born and raised in jolliet, then joined the military, met my mom in California, got married, had me, we visited joliet ALL the time, usually yearly if not 2 times a year. My dad got stationed in oak harbor Washington which is where I grew up from age 2 till age 16. Then we moved to California again (in lemoore, outside of fresno) . He retired there and decided to move here to phoenix because his sister lives here, and they are currently trying to convince everyone in our family to move here, however I may decide to move AWAY from Arizona. I HATE it here!

haha well, my dad was born and raised in jolliet, then joined the military, met my mom in california, got married, had me, we visited joliet ALL the time, usually yearly if not 2 times a year. my dad got stationed in oak harbor washington which is where i grew up from age 2 till age 16. then we moved to california again (in lemoore, outside of fresno) . he retired there and decided to move here to phoenix because his sister lives here, and they are currently trying to convince everyone in our family to move here, however i may decide to move AWAY from arizona. i HATE it here!

You got to see some of the country hon.

You got to see some of the country hon.

Hehe yeah. I want to go back to Washington. But I might go to minisota. I've always wanted to see minisota. Perhapes even learn how to spell it ;)

Hey sweetheart how at YOU???
Long time...

Wow, been there a lot of times....great experience, I must drive by it 5 times a week. :)

The "River Walk" in the evening is simply beautiful, a wonderful experience. And great restaurants and shopping too.

EDIT: Oswego is a nice area too HC.

Hey Cap'n! :) Doing well... busy these days, not much time to chat, but I've been answering questions here and there! :)

Yes, Oswego is a great area. Naper Settlement was one of my favorite jobs...

Hey Cap'n! :) Doing well.... busy these days, not much time to chat, but I've been answering questions here and there! :)

Yes, Oswego is a great area. Naper Settlement was one of my favorite jobs...

Try to make time, we miss you. :)

I just bought a pair with the toes and they are soft and... um I am going to go put them on NOW!

Be glad you are out of the Burgh Stringer!
Its only getting warm and sunny occasionally.


How is starby anyway and where is allheart and others?

While we are on places to visit, Montana is at the top of my list, why you ask... Because I am convinced it is a government conspiracy and the state doesn't exist. I have never met anyone from there or been there, when you think of Montana, you think Joe Montana.

I have never met anyone from there or been there, when you think of Montana, you think Joe Montana.

Been there... it's a beeeautiful state. Particularly the Swan Mountain Range.

I just bought a pair with the toes and they are soft and......um I am going to go put them on NOW!

Be glad you are out of the Burgh Stringer!
Its only getting warm and sunny occasionally.


How is starby anyway and where is allheart and others?

I agree, I haven't seen Alheart in a long time.

Funny Nohelp, I don't remember it being like that, maybe because I was young (er) :D But, it gets hot here in Chicago let me tell you, except this year so far...

Its 75 degrees right now but it feels like 66

I heard that Montana is one of the prettiest states. Some people say Montana and Alaska are prettier than Hawaii

I heard that Montana is one of the prettiest states. Some people say Montana and Alaska are prettier than Hawaii


I've never been to Hawaii, but I can tell you that I would love to retire in Montana, but preferably in Alaska.

Montana is my dream state, flat lands, weather, which I love, but the Winters could be rather rough. Hawaii is good, but no real weather, just sun and rain (which doesn't mean anything) because it's over in a minute or two. :)

Its 75 degrees right now but it feels like 66

I heard that Montana is one of the prettiest states. Some people say Montana and Alaska are prettier than Hawaii

Maybe there is a different type of beauty at each, loved Hawaii.

Maybe there is a different type of beauty at each, loved Hawaii.

Definitely, I think I would prefer Hawaii for the tropical flowers, sand, sun and hot weather.

Definitely, I think I would prefer Hawaii for the tropical flowers, sand, sun and hot weather.

I have had the chance to go twice, once on business/pleasure and for our honeymoon, eighteen days of heaven on Oahu and Maui. I would love to go back again, in fact I promised Marta that we would... :)

Me too stringer , been twice but both for Holidays.

Loved it :)

Me too stringer , been twice but both for Holidays.

loved it :)

HI M,

I am sure that there are many paradises in the world but there is mine.

Exactly , I'm lucky I live in one of them ;)

Exactly , I'm lucky I live in one of them ;)

From everything that I have seen and heard, I agree, you do, lucky man. :):D:)

Have ya'all seen this one? A twist on a classic magic trick. | Funniest Video of the Day (http://www.funnieststuff.net/viewmovie.php?id=1300)

That was good, I liked that, thanks stringer :)

Not bad, Sherriff.

I grew up in one of the prettiest places anywhere. Chattanooga, TN. Hills, rivers, lakes, forests, museums, parks, monuments, and two of the most advertised tourist traps on the planet: Rock City and Ruby Falls.

Ha Ha , nice one stringer :)

Thanks, interesting wasn't it. It was played as if it was on a live stage but I'm sure that there had to be camera tricks at play.

How 'bout this one?

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How 'bout this one?

A True Blonde | Image Collections (http://saintjimmy.com/archives/31)

Its only a matter of time till... BOOM

its only a matter of time till....BOOM

Yeah... way to "feed' the rep that blond's seem to have huh? But this is just plain stupid...

How 'bout this one?

A True Blonde | Image Collections (http://saintjimmy.com/archives/31)

Hehe, good one!

How 'bout this one?

A True Blonde | Image Collections (http://saintjimmy.com/archives/31)

A Darwin Award candidate in the making.

A Darwin Award candidate in the making.

You have that right... Kabooooom! The thing is... I hope that she doesn't take an innocent with her... :eek:

Well what I wanted to post.. didn't want to be posted... I guess... :(

Hi everyone. How are you doing tonight?

*pokes stringer*

hi everyone. how are you doing tonight?

*pokes stringer*

I'm such a dummy sometimes... when it comes to 'puters... mannnnnn, I get ticked off at myself. I guess that I really haven't had the chance to sit down and read all the advice that I have been given on posting pictures, and other things... MORE streeeeesssss... and pressure... :eek: Ha

Aww lol feeling stressed are we stringer?

Sorry, guys, but I've had a long rough day. This is a thread which was started about Starby/Jo. I consider her a friend, have been praying for her and worrying about her.

The thread has gone very far astray.

I see that it's active and my heart pounds as I open the latest posts - which have nothing to do with Starby/Jo.

Please - I realize this is an informal part of AMHD but could this particular thread which is so serious just be about Starby/Jo?

Im sorry JKT, I did not realise I was making you feel that way. I will keep my comaderie in the 'doomed' thread from now on. *hugs*

Sorry, guys, but I've had a long rough day. This is a thread which was started about Starby/Jo. I consider her a friend, have been praying for her and worrying about her.

The thread has gone very far astray.

I see that it's active and my heart pounds as I open the latest posts - which have nothing to do with Starby/Jo.

Please - I realize this is an informal part of AMHD but could this particular thread which is so serious just be about Starby/Jo?

Judy is right. I feel the same way.

Same here
I am sure we keep checking when it comes up to see if it is about how starby is only to see it isn't.

Sorry, guys, but I've had a long rough day. This is a thread which was started about Starby/Jo. I consider her a friend, have been praying for her and worrying about her.

The thread has gone very far astray.

I see that it's active and my heart pounds as I open the latest posts - which have nothing to do with Starby/Jo.

Please - I realize this is an informal part of AMHD but could this particular thread which is so serious just be about Starby/Jo?

I completely agree with this.

I've found myself not checking in on this thread as often as of late because it's often not posts about Starby.

I love chatting as well, but this thread should be reserved for our friend.

Any updates on our love Starbs?

We know she is fighting like a trooper. That's about it as far as I know so far.

No news lately. I guess no news is good news.

I do know that her sister has taken charge and she's not one to share info with anyone, including Jo's Aunt.

I know Jo's Aunt will send news my way, when and if she hears anything. When she does, I'll share it with all of you. I promise.

Yes, she's a fighter, she's definitely proven that. Also, I agree, let's keep this thread about Starby. We have the castle and other threads to chat in.

I've been guilty of it too, mainly to try to keep the mood light because this thread has become so serious. At times we need a little chuckle.

I'd love to chat about Starby stories, memories, fun things she did and said, but general chit chat, not here please.

Hugs everyone.

No news is good news, I guess.

Judy, thank you for yanking on the leash. As Alty says, trying to keep it upbeat I get carried away.

Judy is right. I feel the same way.

absolutely !

Tick

No news is good news, I guess.

Judy, thank you for yanking on the leash. As Alty says, trying to keep it upbeat I get carried away.

Yeah... I did too.

I got carried away too. Thanks for pulling us up short.


I'm sorry her sister is keeping you out of the loop alty. I hope you hear something for her aunt soon. *Hugs*

I miss Starby, yesterday I was going through my old phone messages and there was one of her messages. It was one the first days that she spent in the hospital. I had spoken to her a couple times but this call came when I was out.

It was nice to hear her voice and nice her 'husky' laugh again.

Stringer

Just in from her sister... I got this message this morning... WOW, she is a fighter, keep good thoughts on Starbs, she needs em'!! Hugs everyone!

"Hey there!! Just wanted to give you a quick update on Jo--she's doing OK. We found a doc who was willing to switch her meds around and it seems to be doing the trick--she has shown some improvement. She's not out of the woods, by any means, but she IS doing better!! Thank you SO much for your concern!!! We truly appreciate it. :) "

Starby we miss you!

Come back!!

Oh, my - get enough people together praying and you never know what will happen.

Good news, indeed!

I'm so glad.

Thank you very much Start.

I hope I don't offend anyone who may not be christian, but I can only say praise the lord!!

I am still praying for your Jo!

i hope i dont offend anyone who may not be christian, but i can only say praise the lord!!!

i am still praying for your Jo!

I am not offended and in my little opinion, you shouldn't worry about such things... Praise the Lord! If you were to say something mean or demeaning, then you could say I hope no one is offended, but you said something genuinely nice, and I for one appreciate it!
Starbs, you go girl BCBW!

I am not offended and in my little opinion, you shouldn't worry about such things...Praise the Lord! If you were to say something mean or demeaning, then you could say i hope no one is offended, but you said something genuinely nice, and I for one appreciate it!
Starbs, you go girl BCBW!


Ditto!!

Hi friend! HUGS!

That is awesome news.

Just in from her sister....I got this message this morning....WOW, she is a fighter, keep good thoughts on Starbs, she needs em'!!! Hugs everyone!

"Hey there!! Just wanted to give you a quick update on Jo--she's doing OK. We found a doc who was willing to switch her meds around and it seems to be doing the trick--she has shown some improvement. She's not out of the woods, by any means, but she IS doing better!! Thank you SO much for your concern!!! We truly appreciate it. :) "

Yes indeed! That is good news! Thanks, start! :)

Thanks for the update Starty!

She must know how much we miss her...

Thank G-D! Thank is the best news I have heard in a long time!:D

Wow! Great news. I'm glad that she is doing better. She sure is a fighter!

WOOO HOOOO That's so great. Come on back girl so I can really get to know you! I hear so much about you I feel I already do know you.

WOOO HOOOO Thats so great. Come on back girl so I can really get to know you!! I hear so much about you I feel I already do know you.

Yeah, she is a character who is somewhat unpredictable and funny.

Yep, good new they are Starty! :) Thanks!

Now, we have to keep up, and so does Starby, the good work! C'mon guys! :)

Wow Starty, that's wonderful.

I still can't believe it. I know she's not out of the woods, but a few weeks ago the doctors said she was terminal, wouldn't make it, no way no how, now this.

I guess she has more fight in her then anyone knew.

Go Ducky go! Give them hell, show them what you're made of and come back to us. :)

I received this update from Rebbie.


Jo is very dehydrated, had a very high temp. has infection and was given double dose of antibiotics. She has four different infections as I understand it. Her bp was dangerously low. The doctors thought they would have to drain fluid from abdomen as it is filled with fluid. Jo is still in a lot of pain from her broken leg. Doctors could not set it as bones are too fragile. Jo is not making much progress and family is still requesting prayers for Jo and espressing appreciation for all everyone is doing.

Sorry all, not great news I know.

Oh gosh! Hang tight Jo!! :(

Thanks for the update Alty and Rebbie.

Fight it Jo! Everyone misses you and even more want to meet you. Your in our prayers.

Jo, we really really really hope/wish/pray you can come back to us.

I hope this doesn't sound horrible, but if her leg is causing so much trouble for her, have they considered amputating it? Or am I misunderstanding?

Unfortunately, it is usually the infection that they succumb to. Let us keep Jo in our thoughts and prayers these next few days.

Jennie, she would not be strong enough to undergo the surgery for amputation. If you have read all along, we are surprised she has been with us this long.

Yes I know that its amazing she is still here. I didn't realise that she would not be strong enough for something like that.

She has liver failure. The liver is a necessity to rid the body of toxins. Many toxins build up during surgery, and also we have to be extremely healthy to undergo a surgery of that magnitude. Since she is not healthy, by any means, she won't be able to have an amputation.

I feel so bad that I look at it in a clinical sense, but that's just me wearing my nurses' hat. I can't get too emotionally involved... at least until no one sees me crying.

I understand j_9 (well not personally but you know)

It doesn't mean you care any less. *hugs*

I'm still praying for her. *virtual hugs for starby*

Thanks for the update. So sorry to hear, but still thinking of you JO!

I feel so bad that I look at it in a clinical sense, but that's just me wearing my nurses' hat. I can't get too emotionally involved.....at least until no one sees me crying.

Yes, I so know what you mean about the 'clinical sense'.

Tick

I know everyone panics when they see this thread updated so I appologise but I just want to thank Alty for the update.

I admire your wisdom and knowledge J_9 but I'm glad I don't understand medicine like you (if you understand what I mean) You would be worrying about things we know nothing about!

I know everyone panics when they see this thread updated so I appologise but I just want to thank Alty for the update.

I know I always do, but glad it was just you Shaz.:)

Latest update on Jo from her mom.

It was rushed, but you'll get the gist.

Talked to the Palliative care , Dr Duke, today and here are some of the things discussed. Not necessarily in order.

1. do we want to attack the problem--- yes
2.puliminary results from the fluid drain --suggest massive and nasty infection (approx- 8lbs was taken out yesterday)
3.it will take 5 days to do a culture on the same drain
4. suggested we proceed with 3 different anti biotics
5. sub- ??? was put into her shoulder for needles (like IV)
6. next 48 hrs will be critical
7.when she comes around, pain management will take place ( she will get a drug, a cleaner from the morphine family, the dose is10% lower than reg morphine but more effective.

This is all I have for now..

Sadly the consensus seems to be that Jo will not be with us much longer. Her body is shutting down, she's sleeping a lot, he legs are severely swollen and she has constant pain in her abdomen, probably due to the infection.

Her mother has asked for my phone number to set up a time that I can talk to Jo. This may be the final call. I don't know how long I'll have or how coherent she'll be, but I'll pass everyone's love and prayers on to her.

Sorry for the bad news. Prayers are still needed.

Hugs to all.

Latest update on Jo from her mom.

It was rushed, but you'll get the gist.

Talked to the Palliative care , Dr Duke, today and here are some of the things discussed. Not necessarily in order.

1. do we want to attack the problem--- yes
2.puliminary results from the fluid drain --suggest massive and nasty infection (approx- 8lbs was taken out yesterday)
3.it will take 5 days to do a culture on the same drain
4. suggested we proceed with 3 different anti biotics
5. sub- ??? was put into her shoulder for needles (like IV)
6. next 48 hrs will be critical
7.when she comes around, pain management will take place ( she will get a drug, a cleaner from the morphine family, the dose is10% lower than reg morphine but more effective.

This is all I have for now..

Sadly the consensus seems to be that Jo will not be with us much longer. Her body is shutting down, she's sleeping alot, he legs are severely swollen and she has constant pain in her abdomen, probably due to the infection.

Her mother has asked for my phone number to set up a time that I can talk to Jo. This may be the final call. I don't know how long I'll have or how coherent she'll be, but I'll pass everyone's love and prayers on to her.

Sorry for the bad news. Prayers are still needed.

Hugs to all.

Thanks Alty, I haven't stopped saying a prayer for her:). Please give her my love, that is important to me... thank you.

Stringer

Thanks Alty, I haven't stopped saying a prayer for her:). Please give her my love, that is important to me...thank you.

Stringer

I will Stringer.

I'm hoping I'll get to talk to her soon. Jo's Aunt doesn't think Jo will make it for much longer. He body is in shut down mode.

We all knew this was possible, in fact I've been prepared for it for quite some time, still it's a shock, sudden and unexpected. She was getting better, now this.

I don't think she'll pull out of this. I hope I'm wrong.

Hugs dear Stringer. Love you. :)

I will Stringer.

I'm hoping I'll get to talk to her soon. Jo's Aunt doesn't think Jo will make it for much longer. He body is in shut down mode.

We all knew this was possible, in fact I've been prepared for it for quite some time, still it's a shock, sudden and unexpected. She was getting better, now this.

I don't think she'll pull out of this. I hope I'm wrong.

Hugs dear Stringer. Love you. :)

You know that I love you too...

It seems that a lot of times there is a brief recovery before the result, I hope that this isn't the case though... I am depressed and sad.

Thank you for the update alty. My prayers are still with her. And if it is her time, I pray she goes as peacefully as possible. For her sake and her familys.

You know that I love you too...

It seems that a lot of times there is a brief recovery before the end result, I hope that this isn't the case though....I am depressed and sad.

Same here Stringer. This is so hard. I was expecting it, but it doesn't make it any easier.

It does seem that there's usually a calm before the storm. I pray that the antibiotics work but 8lbs of fluid removed from her stomach and more building up, all full of infection, it doesn't sound hopeful.

Her family isn't giving up, I understand that, but maybe they should just let her go in peace. That's how I feel anyway.

I just hope that whatever happens she's not in pain, although I know that right now she is, I hope they can find a way to ease that.

I wish I could hug her. I hope that I get a chance to talk to her one last time.

I'll send all your love her way, that I promise you.

Hugs Stringer. We'll all get through this together, no matter what. Don't let this ruin your vacation, there's nothing you can do, so go and enjoy yourself, otherwise you know Jo would kick your butt. :)

Thanks Alty for passing on this info. I've been thinking about her constantly and looked at her number in my phone today and just wish I could talk to her again and hear her laugh. I miss her but I don't want her last days to be filled with suffering. :(

Same here Stringer. This is so hard. I was expecting it, but it doesn't make it any easier.

It does seem that there's usually a calm before the storm. I pray that the antibiotics work but 8lbs of fluid removed from her stomach and more building up, all full of infection, it doesn't sound hopeful.

Her family isn't giving up, I understand that, but maybe they should just let her go in peace. That's how I feel anyway.

I just hope that whatever happens she's not in pain, although I know that right now she is, I hope they can find a way to ease that.

I wish I could hug her. I hope that I get a chance to talk to her one last time.

I'll send all your love her way, that I promise you.

Hugs Stringer. We'll all get through this together, no matter what. Don't let this ruin your vacation, there's nothing you can do, so go and enjoy yourself, otherwise you know Jo would kick your butt. :)

Yeah... she WOULD try... funny how a circle of friends begins... :)

I wish I could hear her laugh again too NM, it's infectious. :)

She wouldn't only try Stringer, she'd do it, you know she would. :)

I wish I could hear her laugh again too NM, it's infectious. :)

She wouldn't only try Stringer, she'd do it, you know she would. :)

Ha ha.. she might get the first blow in, but then I would show her copies of the sneaky pictures that I have... she would have to back down... :D;)

Got to run for a bit, back later.

Ha ha..she might get the first blow in, but then I would show her copies of the sneaky pictures that I have...she would have to back down...:D;)

What pictures? :eek:

I'm not in those pictures, am I?

Bad Stringer. I'm telling on you! ;)

Later dear, go relax, get your mind off this.

Hugs and kisses.

Alty

Latest update on Jo from her mom.


1. do we want to attack the problem--- yes


I don't understand why, it is only prolonging her pain and their grief.


Latest update on Jo from her mom.

It was rushed, but you'll get the gist.

2.pulminary results from the fluid drain --suggest massive and nasty infection (approx- 8lbs was taken out yesterday)


Preliminary. This is usually fluid from the abdomen, and is called ascites when it builds up like this. This is one of they first signs of kidney failure. Once this happens dialysis is the only way to go.


3.it will take 5 days to do a culture on the same drain

Unfortunately, she may not last that long.


4. suggested we proceed with 3 different anti biotics

Let's pray this gives her some time.


5. sub- ??? was put into her shoulder for needles (like IV)

Porta-cath or Central Line?


7.when she comes around, pain management will take place ( she will get a drug, a cleaner from the morphine family, the dose is10% lower than reg morphine but more effective.

Dilaudid?

I am so sorry to hear this is happening. Apparently we already had the calm before the storm (her birthday).

I love Jo dearly, but I can't bear her suffering any longer. Personally, and professionally, I get broken hearted when I hear that family wants to prolong the life of someone who is terminally ill. I always wonder if they take the patient's wishes into consideration. Would Jo want to live on machines? We know she has liver failure, now possibly kidney failure, why make her suffer? Even with a liver transplant at this point in time she will never regain a health as she once knew it.

Again, I have to see it from a clinical point of view so that it does not hurt me. I guess if I understand what is going on with her I can see it from a different viewpoint and it's not as painful for me.

Jo remains in my thoughts and prayers constantly.

Alty, please send my love to her if you get to talk to her... gosh, you are going to need a list;) Hugs everyone. Still sending beautiful thoughts and prayers.

Thanks for explaining it J, I was hoping you would.

The bad thing is, Jo only has one functioning kidney as is, the other one stopped working weeks ago.

I agree that they should just let her go and stop putting her through all of this. It's just prolonging the inevitable.

Starty, of course I'll send her your love, I'll send everyone's her way as I'm sure everyone wants to say hello and send her hugs and kisses.

I'm not sure if this call is going to happen, I can only hope. It's going to be hard but I so want to hear her voice one last time.

Hugs everyone. :)

Alty, I hope the call happens. Please share my love with her.

I never know if I'm hurting more than helping when I explain, but I guess I never take my nurse cap off.

Helping J, you are helping those of us who have no idea what the "medical lingo" means;) Thank you

Alty, I hope the call happens. Please share my love with her.

I never know if I'm hurting more than helping when I explain, but I guess I never take my nurse cap off.

It helps because to me it's just a bunch of gooblygook, it's good to know what's really going on.

Of course I'll send your love. :)

It helps because to me it's just a bunch of gooblygook, it's good to know what's really going on.

Of course I'll send your love. :)
I really don't mean to bring the mood down. And if you wish I stop explaining, I will. It's just in my family experience with my father's death, which many of you helped me through, it was easier for us to know what was happening to help us make the necessary decisions.

I agree J, when you say you don't understand why people prolong the inevitable. I don't understand it with my mind, I understand with my heart how hard it is to let go. Grandma passed in April and Grandpa DECIDED to go this month, he told us to let him and we did... hard but it was the right thing to do.

I wish Jo no pain and peace;)

I just saw the updates just now. Please let the family know that we send our love, thoughts and prayers to Jo and all the family.

Alty thank you for the update, just read it now. Did not realize this was all happening. Hope your able to talk with Starby...

Lots of love, and hope that she does not have to go through anymore pain.

I really don't mean to bring the mood down. And if you wish I stop explaining, I will. It's just in my family experience with my father's death, which many of you helped me through, it was easier for us to know what was happening to help us make the necessary decisions.

You're not bringing the mood down at all J. I'm glad you're explaining all this to us, it does help to understand exactly what's going on, especially since the updates really don't tell us a lot, only that she's not well.

When my mom was dying they kept a lot from us. In fact we didn't find out she was terminal until her doctor went out of town and another doctor took over. She let it slip thinking that we already knew, we didn't.

It was a shock finding out that way. My mom had just had an MRI done and they found tumors in her brain. The doctor came in and said "instead of the year we originally gave you we're thinking it will be more like 6 months". I just gawked at her, so did my mom. I pulled her into the hall and asked her what she meant by 6 months. She was shocked that we didn't know.

My mom had bought a condo, it was almost done, she was planning to move in the following week.

When her doctor came back I lost it. I asked her how she could keep something like this from us. Her excuse was that my mom had just lost her husband and that she didn't want to add to the pain. She knew my mom well, my mom was a planner, liked to have all her ducks in a row. Finding out she was terminal was actually a relief to her because then she finally knew for sure what lay ahead and she could plan for it.

Okay, wow, another book by Alty. :o

I agree J, when you say you dont understand why people prolong the inevitable. I dont understand it with my mind, i understand with my heart how hard it is to let go. Grandma passed in April and Grandpa DECIDED to go this month, he told us to let him and we did...hard but it was the right thing to do.

I wish Jo no pain and peace;)

Start I am so sorry.

When my mom was dying they kept alot from us. In fact we didn't find out she was terminal until her doctor went out of town and another doctor took over. She let it slip thinking that we already knew, we didn't.


My patients, albeit pregnancy related, know what is going on from the get-go. I never keep secrets, I ALWAYS tell the truth. I never give false hope.

Unfortunately, I know all about what happens when organs fail. I know all too well.

Honestly - I can't even type a response to any of the posts. Suddenly I'm standing there, next to that hospital bed, knowing the truth while the Doctors lie to me.

The Nurses - and I've said this before - told me the truth and what to do and how to do it.

My husband was lost to me days and days before anyone would admit it to me -

He told me if I loved him I would let him go - and maybe that's how Jo's family should be thinking.

Sorry - this thread isn't about me but it's been a VERY rough day and this thread brings it all back.

Again - sorry.

Jo is still in my prayers - and I wish her God speed.