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tomder55
Dec 20, 2007, 07:25 AM
OR

The real reason the Goricle was NOT the Time Magazing Person of the Year.

Year of global cooling - - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper (http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071219/COMMENTARY/10575140)



Antarctica is getting colder. Neither the intensity nor the frequency of hurricanes has increased. The 2007 season was the third-quietest since 1966. In 2006 not a single hurricane made landfall in the U.S.

South America this year experienced one of its coldest winters in decades. In Buenos Aires, snow fell for the first time since the year 1918. Dozens of homeless people died from exposure. In Peru, 200 people died from the cold and thousands more became infected with respiratory diseases. Crops failed, livestock perished, and the Peruvian government declared a state of emergency.


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FYI if you don't know ;Time Magazine picked Vladimir Polonium Putin as Person of the Year . I guess he was the most influential jackboot available .


TIME's Person of the Year is not and never has been an honor. It is not an endorsement. It is not a popularity contest. At its best, it is a clear-eyed recognition of the world as it is and of the most powerful individuals and forces shaping that world—for better or for worse. It is ultimately about leadership—bold, earth-changing leadership.

Bold, earth-changing leadership... yeah I guess systematically overturning the Russian democracy experiment and returning Russia back to the good ole stable days of authoritarian rule trumps browbeating the world with phony science to advance a personal agenda.Choosing Order Before Freedom - Person of the Year 2007 - TIME (http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/personoftheyear/article/0,28804,1690753_1690757,00.html)

RubyPitbull
Dec 20, 2007, 07:53 AM
Tom, I can tell you that so far this year, in New England, global warming ain't happening. 5 years ago temps dropped in Oct and staying well below freezing, even going down to -20for a few days. This year, temps dropped early in the season and this past month, I think we have had one day where it went over the freezing point a little bit. Right now, I am looking out my window and it is snowing yet again! I think we have had over 2 feet of snow in the past three weeks. I am running out of space to put the snow and I am already tired of shoveling.

I don't know what to say about Putin. Time magazine wasted good paper. Maybe they should be slapped with a fine for that? I would have preferred to look at the trees which created that paper.

ETWolverine
Dec 20, 2007, 08:02 AM
There are two great topics here, and each one deserves its own thread.

I'll tackle the global warming issue here.

One of the things I like about this article is this quote:


If you think any of the preceding facts can falsify global warming, you're hopelessly naïve. Nothing creates cognitive dissonance in the mind of a true believer. In 2005, a Canadian Greenpeace representative explained “global warming can mean colder, it can mean drier, it can mean wetter.” In other words, all weather variations are evidence for global warming. I can't make this stuff up.

Global warming has long since passed from scientific hypothesis to the realm of pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo.

That pretty much sums it up for me. When ANY change in weather can be interpreted as being caused by global warming, it's the same as saying that NONE of them are related to global warming. If both cooler and warmer temperatures, both heavier and lighter storm seasons, both wetter and drier weather, can all be attributed to global warming, then it means NOTHING we do can affect global warming.

It's kind of like saying no matter what choice you make, it will always be wrong. Ergo, all choices you can make are equal, and none is better than the other. So why worry about it?

Then there's the description of the author's background at the end of the article.


David Deming is a geophysicist, an adjunct scholar with the National Center for Policy Analysis, and associate professor of Arts and Sciences at the University of Oklahoma.

So who's word should we take on matters of geophysics? Al Gore's or David Dennings?

Would you go to a politician to fix your plumbing? Probably not. Then why would you rely on one for information on geophysics?

Elliot

tomder55
Dec 20, 2007, 08:41 AM
John McCain said that Gen. Petraeus should have been named Time's Person of the Year . I agree with him . I think he will one day be President Petraeus . If I was going for a world leader then why not Pratibha Patil ;the first Female President of the world's largest democracy ?

speechlesstx
Dec 20, 2007, 08:45 AM
“global warming can mean colder, it can mean drier, it can mean wetter.”

Got to agree with Elliot. Global "warming" can mean "colder?" LOL! It can mean anything you want it to which is typical of the left's "Calvinball" approach, make it up as you go and it doesn't matter if the rules are contradictory. Kind of like their approach to Putin being man of the year, the media says he's "dangerous" but he's popular and brought stability. Sounds like the arguments against going to Iraq we jut read again, yeah Saddam was a genocidal dictator but he was popular (didn't he get 100 percent of the votes for his last 7 year term?) and Iraq was stable.

tomder55
Dec 20, 2007, 09:06 AM
Steve ;

I was going to make that comment of the Iraq thred but I have had enough of it . It is amazing what people can justify in the name of stability . That is why I am very skeptical of the "realist " foreign policy argument propounded by Henry Kissinger ,Brent Scrocroft ,and Zbigniew Brzezinski among others .