I'm gay and I have always wondered if it is really my choice. Like I have never felt 'straight' just gay. So I am wondering if anyone has heard of it being in you DNA or anything like that. Any advice would be helpful!
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I'm gay and I have always wondered if it is really my choice. Like I have never felt 'straight' just gay. So I am wondering if anyone has heard of it being in you DNA or anything like that. Any advice would be helpful!
There isn't any proof that there is a DNA anomaly that makes a person gay. But I believe it's a mix of both. I blieve a person is predisposed to homosexuality. However that person also makes a CHOICE weather or not to act on it.
Like jenniepepsi said there is no proof that DNA has any part in being gay. But it is your choice to act on it. And if your happy with you and your life you should not even have to worrie about if the DNA takes part in it or not. Just being happy is the best bet in life.
You answered your own question.Quote:
Originally Posted by broy3666
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Yeah, I'm confident sexual orientation isn't encoded in DNA because it isn't a required bit of information in cell production, that's all DNA is for. Brain activity is where it all happens.
Have a friend since I was 4 years he came out to me when we were 20. I asked him if he thought he choose to be gay or if he couldn't control it. He said it was never a choice He tried to be with girls and it did nothing for him. So I don't think it is a choice plus check out this article it is very interesting. I have posted this before but check it out anyway.
A Gay Man's Brain Looks a Lot Like a Straight Woman's Brain | 80beats | Discover Magazine
The question that has no answer... there are religious views and then there are scientific views etc... My personal view is that some people make the choice to be gay due to family up bringing, religion, society, emotions, etc etc... but then there are those who have always felt as if they were gay and have tried to fight it or have just acted upon it knowing that how they are is fine... I think for those who are in that situation the only choice that is made is to finally live the life they feel comfortable living... I have never heard of any DNA proof but then again I don't pay much attention.
Sorry for the ramble hope it makes sense...
MMM I'm pretty sure that you will find that DNA is NOT just associated with cell production, it actually has the "codes" for the production of amino acids that make proteins and other molecular components as well as the instructions for use of those itemsAnyway, Did anyone here "make a CHOICE" to be Hetrosexual?? I think not, you just knew you were.Quote:
Originally Posted by slapshot_oi
I think THAT answers the question.
You sure showed me, I was just trying to make a point that DNA has nothing to do with sexual orientation. No need to be hostile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xrayman
Calm down.
10% of the human genome hasn't been mapped, I believe that being gay is not a choice, you are either born with it or you aren't.
While there is no conclusive evidence, there might be one day, as I said there is that 10% of unknown.
I fully believe that being gay is just something you are or you aren't. As with any other traits, you have the ability to ignore them and pretend they don't exist, but in all actuality, doing so will probably just make you a really unhappy person and I don't, for any reason, believe in making your life a miserable one to make other people feel more comfortable in your presence.
I believe it's a choice. Just as some people like skinny partners while others like chunky ones... the choice may be influenced by your environment. But its still a choice.
So, you could have gone either way then? Guys or girls? But you chose to be straight?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I find that to be a ridiculous statement. Maybe you can be influenced to some extent. But, no... it is not a choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Being gay is more like a random mutation in the gene pool. I could say the same about people with ginger hair. It is not better or worse. It is just different. Life wouldn't exist as it does without these random mutations.
If two gay people would produce offspring, then there would be a high chance of the offspring being gay. Just like 2 ginger people producing ginger offspring. Or 2 black people producing black offspring. Need I say more?
No, in my case I will state, I never thought about it... I was brought with old world values and morals. So I natually did the right thing... No urges to take a walk on the wild side... I preffer to play with equipment different than I was equipped with from the factory. If I feel the urge to diddle with a dinky... I've got one in easy reach, 24 hours a day 7 days a week, in fact I carry it wherever I go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ren6
I strongly disagree... your environment plays a large factor in your choices... and if YOU decide to play with others your own gender it's a choice YOU make... otherwise its called rape.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMA
Same thing with drugs... booze, the friends you have.
YOU don't have a decision in your eye color... your hair, your ethnicity.
But you are responsible for your choices in life. I know the politically correct crowd want to blame everything on something else. Fact is unless you were kidnaped and forced to do things against your will the choice is your own.
Personally I don't care if someone is gay or not... just don't get up in everyone's face about it like a certain minority do... and just admit it's a choice you made.
I was raised with "values and morals" too. In no way did my deeply religious mother encourage me in any way to be gay. This has squat to do with environment. Gay people are wired differently- it's not a choice. Heterosexuality came "naturally" to you, just as being gay is "natural" for gay people.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Oh, and congrats on being the proud owner of your dinky.
So you were forced to have homosexual sex and didn't make a concience decision to do it on your own? Hang around with a bad crowd and you start thinking their actions aren't wrong and you fall into the same behaviour patters they do... hang with a different crowd that doesn't do that and you do the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ren6
People are a product of their environment... or the friends they choose to keep. But that doesn't absolve them from responsibility for being in that eviroment that influenced them... choices are rarely simple and have ramnifications far beyond what you would have guessed.
I'm not on any anti-gay crusade... far from it. I don't care what people do to get their jollies, as long as its concentual. I'm just tired of hearing how nothing is anyone's fault these days... when people are responsible for their own choices and actions.
Cheaters make that decision just as faithful people are, same as gay or Hetero... or Bisexual people as well.
You can interview every gay person in the U.S. and they'll tell you it wasn't a choice. Since you are not gay and have admittedly never made a choice to be straight, you're really not much of an authority on this topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Oh, I see where you're going now, LOL! Of course, I made the decision to act upon my gay tendencies. Just as you handle your dinky when you please, or have sex with your wife. People have gay sex because they're gay. However, being gay, having gay thoughts, tendencies and desires is not a choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Right... nobody has any choice about anything...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ren6
You made a choice to follow those thoughts rather that the other thoughts... you then became aclimated to that way of thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ren6
Not really any different that someome who stays with an abuser long enough to think its what everyone deals with...
People can get used to a lot of things. Ever see a habitual liar that honestly believes what they tell others? Even one without a real mental illness? I have. People by their very nature tend to aclimate to their environment. And see that as the norm, the average. There are many, many examples that can be given... what is considered beautiful in one location can be grossly different in another part of the world. Environment and what one percieves in their own sliver of it.
Choice... well, if I followed my gut... I'd be banging any woman I think is attractive... assuming she'd let me, trust me to this minute I'd like to do just that. But I made a choice to be faithful to my wife. A choice I made and a choice I assume responsibility for taking.
I have a preference for skinny women... now is that intended to be a slight against the more curvey ones? Not at all, my perception of beauty is colored by the environment I chose to be in... and it reflects in my choices. I've run with different crowds growing up... so I understand how peoples viewpoints can vary dramatically over time. From their environment.
But like I said... I don't care if someone is gay or not. I judge my friends by who they are... not who they sleep with.
There were gay people in your "old world".Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
What's the "wrong" thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
There is no *evidence* one way or another about this topic.
Smoothy, I have to say your logic isn't working on this one. Either you CHOSE, and made a conscious choice, to be heterosexual, or you were wired that way. I mean, were you FORCED to have heterosexual sex?
Personally, I don't think it's a choice. Who the heck would CHOOSE to be outcast from some portions of society? Who would CHOOSE to have to deal with attitudes like "I did the right thing and married someone of the opposite gender because I was raised with and have morals".
Seriously?
Gay people either weren't raised right or don't have morals? Really?
I agree with you, Smoothy, that too many people don't take responsibility for their actions. But you cannot seriously think that EVERY single thing that EVERY single person deals with is a product of their choices. If that's the case, then NO ONE should EVER have a birth defect, disease, broken limb, car accident, no job, or hangnail except because they CHOSE to.
So you had gay thoughts as a young adult/teenager? You thought about dating/having sex with another boy? I'd like to hear you admit this, frankly, because the ONLY men I've ever met that admit this are either gay or bisexual.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
If you didn't think about having sex with a guy---why would you assume that homosexual people had thoughts about the opposite sex at all?
Has the thought ever crossed my mind in my life?Quote:
Originally Posted by Synnen
I'll admit to yeah. Have I ever acted on it... no... I made that choice. And I'll bet there are a LOT of people out there who if they were really honest with themselves would admit to it as well.
People who don't act on impulse... and people can and do get used to a lot of things... I'm not inviting a polital discussion, its out of place for this forum... but a good and extreme example being the People living in North Korea... they are used to the situation... dealt with it so long its normal for them. In fact many would be willing to fight and die to keep it. Yet how many will admit they really wouldn't collectively change the situation that it couldn't be done?
Look at the situations people are accustomed to anyplace... look at the people who aceept abuse as part of life... because they chose to be that way long enough it became the norm for them.
Choices have effects down the road... many times in ways nobody would guess. Like I said... lifestyle, and far more. Otherwise the world would be homogenous and not as diverse as it is.
And again I'll state... I'm NOT a member of the burn them at the stake crowd.
I have gay relatives, and gay friends. Every single one of them said the same thing to me. Why would I want to choose to be this way. My cousins boyfriends parents think it is a "phase" he is going through. He is 32 he has been dating my cousin since they were 20. That is one hell of a phase.
I know my cousin dated 1 girl in high school and I asked him was he ever turned on by her. He said imagine making out with your friend Chad and I made this grossed out face he said now you know how I feel when I made out with her. IT IS NOT A CHOICE.
32... hmmmm generation Y clearly in the blame everything else era that started in the late 70's.
People tried it... liked it... it became the norm for them. Big deal. I'm not faulting their gayness, hell I wish them a happy life. I'm faulting people who blame their choices on other things.
I suppose nothing else they do is a choice either... drug use, bad habits, the circle of friends they have.
If they don't enjoy it then why are they doing it I ask?
I mean people aren't born with nose studs and facial tattoos... but some people do it anyway. They made the choice. They stick with it because they enjoy it.
You have no choice with your hair color... or eye color... how tall you are, but other actions such as who you choose to sleep with, and your weight are factors in the lifestyle you choose. You know what... I need to lose 20 lbs... its not genetics... I wasn't born this way. Its because I am overly fond of junk food, and my lifestyle doesn't have me physically active enough to burn those extra calories. Its my choices that resulted in it.
Smoothy Refer to your own Ron White Quote in this thread and cure your ignorance.
Perhaps those who refuse to accept responsibility for their own choices and actions should read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
If you are suppressing your homosexual urges please don't worry, you can speak freely here.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
OR perhaps someone who compares getting a nose piercing with the way someone was made needs to read it.
I will admit to having thought about having gay sex. Borderline fantasy. Why? Don't know. Maybe to play it out in my head to try it. Reality is very different so it's not like I will be trying it for real. For sure I am 100% straight too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synnen
Thread closed.
It was brought up that this is not the place for a political discussion, and I agree.
If you'd like to continue to discuss this, I suggest starting a new thread in Member Discussions.
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