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  • Jan 22, 2008, 06:28 AM
    tdmstory
    Sex with Big Women
    Is sex better or just as good with a big woman as opposed to a slim woman. Would be interested in your views.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 06:54 AM
    smoothy
    Not for me. While your average big woman is less likely to be cursed with a "gods gift to mankind" mentality which is a real plus on her side, there is the negative of the large size being a turn off for me.

    Sort of six of one and half dozen of the other situation depending on how you view things. You can usually have a far better conversation with the average larger woman than the average beauty queen afterwards. And yeah... you will spend more time talking than doing the nasty. A good point to consider.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 07:08 AM
    2personal
    I have heard that sex with bigger women is better, because they don't get it as often, and when they do... hold on and enjoy the ride.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 07:15 AM
    mafiaangel180
    I guess it would depend on how skinny and how fat you are talking about. But I would think men would want to put it to something curvy, soft, and bouncy, as opposed to a version of their boney 12 year old brother. Lol.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 09:05 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mafiaangel180
    I guess it would depend on how skinny and how fat you are talking about. But I would think men would want to put it to something curvy, soft, and bouncy, as opposed to a version of their boney 12 year old brother. lol.

    Me? I'd prefer 10 lbs underweight to 10 lbs overweight. However with that said... anorexic does nothing for me. Nor do Shamu sized women. Back in my single days I have actually turned down sex from women who were what I considered morbidly obese, yeah there is a line that I wouldn't cross even back then, and back then it might have been that or Rosey Palmer.. And yeah, I have dated women back in the day that were a bit plump.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 10:24 AM
    mafiaangel180
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy
    Me? I'd prefer 10 lbs underweight to 10 lbs overweight. However with that said....anorexic does nothing for me. Nor do Shamu sized women. Back in my single days I have actually turned down sex from women who were what I considered morbidly obese, yeah there is a line that I wouldn't cross even back then, and back then it might have been that or Rosey Palmer.. And yeah, I have dated women back in the day that were a bit plump.

    So what would you consider yourself? Are you fat, thin, what? In my experience it always seems to be the overweight men who turn their noses up to the overweight girls.

    *bracing myself*
  • Jan 22, 2008, 10:39 AM
    smoothy
    I'm 5'11" and 220 lbs. Broad shoulders, arms and chest. Can lose a few pounds most of it is upper body mass. My arms are also a lot larger than I was back then too. Anyone that saw me would think I weigh less than I do.

    However with that said I've been married 17 years. My shoulders were not a broad in my 20's when I was last dating. While I was never the 100 lb weakling I wasn't as intimidating as I am now and I certainly wasn't overweight by any standards. Why did I date larger women back then? I'm not afraid to say why. Simple they were more approachable, I didn't find them more physically appealing, and I just didn't have the level of confidence then that I have now.

    Why do I plan to lose some weight if I'm not fat? I'll tell everyone that as well. It has to do with blood pressure. Losing the weight will lower the blood pressure to where I won't be close to needing medication. Also more overweight people suffer from adult onset diabetes losing a few pounds can significantly reduce your chances of getting it. It runs in my family as well. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure the saying goes.

    I'm not going to be apologetic because obesity is epidemic in this country and it carries with it a LOT of medical consequences the "feel good about yourself the way you are" crowd choose to ignore.

    Yeah it would be easy to stuff my face with junk food (and yes I do have a sweet tooth) get fat and whine about all my medical problems as I get older. But I'd rather be healthier. Its not the easy way but I'll have a longer life with fewer problems as I get older.

    Ultimately that's your choice to make... just remember like with most things everything carries a cost.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 10:58 AM
    mafiaangel180
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy
    I'm not going to be apologetic because obesity is epidemic in this country and it carries with it a LOT of medical consequences the "feel good about yourself the way you are" crowd choose to ignore.

    Yeah it would be easy to stuff my face with junk food (and yes I do have a sweet tooth) get fat and whine about all my medical problems as I get older. But I'd rather be healthier. Its not the easy way but I'll have a longer life with fewer problems as I get older.

    Ultimately thats your choice to make....just remember like with most things everything carries a cost.

    So do you think a bigger woman is bad in bed? I really don't know what you consider bigger... (130, 140, 180, 200, 250+) I had someone tell me I was fat at 125. So in a way it can be a very subjective thing.

    It's all kind of stereotypical because not all fat people sit around eating Fritos and pie. And not all fat people have diabetes. I know some very sickly and LAZY skinny people. Whereas, I also know some very healthy and energetic fat people. Sometimes it's just not in the genes brutha. Lol.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 11:12 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mafiaangel180
    So do you think a bigger woman is bad in bed? I really don't know what you consider bigger....(130, 140, 180, 200, 250+) I had someone tell me I was fat at 125. So in a way it can be a very subjective thing.

    It's all kind of stereotypical because not all fat people sit around eating Fritos and pie. And not all fat people have diabetes. I know some very sickly and LAZY skinny people. Whereas, I also know some very healthy and energetic fat people. Sometimes it's just not in the genes brutha. lol.

    Never said they were bad in bed on the average. In fact I would go as far as saying your average 20 something overweight woman is better in bed than your average 20 something bikini model. Like I sad, a heavy woman is less likely to think she's gods gift to man, and therefor tend to make more of an effort. Oh I've seen a few large women that thought they were... and I saw nothing in them that was the least bit special. Plus seeing the average fat woman naked isn't very stimulating visually. What that dividing line is would vary woman to woman depending on how and where she carries that weight. And yes, I've dated women back then from a large variety of ethnic backgrounds.

    My standards for fat? Any weight that starts with a 2 is fat on a woman. Plus how tall? A 6 foot woman can carry 150 lbs far better and a 5 foot tall woman can.


    Energetic means nothing... if you keel over at 40 from a massive heart attack from being overweight your whole life.

    I've known people that showed little symptoms of problems till they keeled over dead.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 11:36 AM
    Choux
    Sex is so much better if it is about *PASSION*for another... so identify your passions. A mechanical approach to sex is like work with, hopefully, an orgasm at the end to make all the drudgery worth it!

    It is difficult for many Americans to unleash their passions, they are uncomfortable with true, real emotions, sad to say. Due to some negative cultural forces such as the rise of porn, many men think of women as sex toys instead of full passionate partners creating ecstasy.

    So, what kind of woman turns you on? Go for that one. :)
  • Jan 22, 2008, 11:42 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Choux
    Sex is so much better if it is about *PASSION*for another..... so identify your passions. A mechanical approach to sex is like work with, hopefully, an orgasm at the end to make all the drudgery worth it!

    It is difficult for many Americans to unleash their passions, they are uncomfortable with true, real emotions, sad to say. Due to some negative cultural forces such as the rise of porn, many men think of women as sex toys instead of full passionate partners creating ecstacy.

    So, what kind of woman turns you on? Go for that one. :)

    OH, I agree with you there... so many repressed people I've known in my life.

    Trust me... me and my wife have lots of fun. And not just what I call fun, but what she calls fun. And yeah, she's in great shape too. 17 years of marriage and she can still get a rise out of me just walking by wearing nothing but a thong. :D
  • Jan 22, 2008, 11:45 AM
    Synnen
    Amazingly, I'm not in as good shape as your wife is, Smoothy. Genes, combined with an early pregnancy, combined with a job that had me sitting for 8 hours a day--well, I'm not the 125 lbs I was when my husband and I met.

    But... after 11 years, I still get a rise out of him by walking by in nothing but a thong, too.

    I don't look like a model in it, but HE loves me, and loves me for who I am.

    I think that people that are comfortable in their own skin are better in bed than people who aren't--regardless of size.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 11:48 AM
    BMI
    I guess it depends on what you see in the person right?

    I, for one, am not attracted to larger women (lets say visibly overweight, not just a bit of meat) so I would not enjoy sex with a larger woman because I would not be attracted to it, sothe sex would suck for me.

    However, some like larger women and if that be the case than I think sex is just as good with that person than if she were skinnier. I highly doubt weight has to do with performance in bed. If you like larger people than your attracted to that and the sex will be what you make it.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 11:51 AM
    tdmstory
    I believe a lot of men are attracted to larger women, however they are swayed by what society has deemed as the perfect woman. Would like to hear your comments.:cool:
  • Jan 22, 2008, 11:55 AM
    kp2171
    Deep breath... OK...

    My cousin likes "bigger" women. Its his thing. His opinion. His preference.

    I've usually dated women who were fit. My preference. My opinion.

    Have I dated skinny women who were lousy or lazy in bed? Sure.

    Best sex is mental and physical. Don't rail on a guy or a girl because they are most attracted to a certain body type. We all have our own quirks.

    My wife is generally attracted to fit, but bigger men. She doesn't want a guy that can fit into her jeans or who can wear her tshirts. She likes some muscle. Is that bad? no. is it all that good sex is about? No!

    One of the sexiest girls I dated wasn't really heavy, but she was a little bigger than all the others. But she had attitude. And she was sexy as sin.

    So... lets not make this too much about right and wrong.

    You asked about opinions. People are going to disagree here. But there's been a lot of noise lately about people getting grumpy when a person says "i prefer a fit person"... OK... its an opinion. A preference. We can disagree and get along, right?
  • Jan 22, 2008, 12:16 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Synnen
    Amazingly, I'm not in as good shape as your wife is, Smoothy. Genes, combined with an early pregnancy, combined with a job that had me sitting for 8 hours a day--well, I'm not the 125 lbs I was when my husband and I met.

    But...after 11 years, I still get a rise out of him by walking by in nothing but a thong, too.

    I don't look like a model in it, but HE loves me, and loves me for who I am.

    I think that people that are comfortable in their own skin are better in bed than people who aren't--regardless of size.

    She spends an hour a day exercising to maintain that as well as watching what she eats. And she doesn't do it because that's what I like, she does it because she wants a long healthy life without the same medical problems her mother, and one of her sisters have.

    She was stodgy the first year of marriage but with some patient coaxing she learned to be pretty adventurous even by my standards, she is comfortable enough to discuss what she wants or wants to try.. And many of our likes do mesh pretty well.

    Do I have an Ozzie and Harriet marriage? Not by any means. She has a temper and a mouth on her, but on average we have a good marriage.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 12:17 PM
    tdmstory
    How presumptous of you to assume I was offended. It was an observation and a question.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 12:27 PM
    excon
    Hello td:

    Oh, I like chunky chicks, all right... But one must consider the mechanics of the situation.

    I'm kind of shaped like a balloon. If I were to run into a chick who was similarly shaped, we'd never be able to connect, if you know what I mean.

    excon
  • Jan 22, 2008, 12:44 PM
    mafiaangel180
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy
    Energetic means nothing....if you keel over at 40 from a massive heart attack from being overweight your whole life.

    I've known people that showed little symptoms of problems till they keeled over dead.

    Sorry, I chose the wrong word, I meant athletic not energetic. I know several women who are in the 180 pound area who you might call fat and they could run circles around many thin people when it comes to sports. It's because they have a lot of muscle under that fat. And also, you are talking about keeling over from heart attacks... it's not just fat people who die from them. But that's a given.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 12:54 PM
    mafiaangel180
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tdmstory
    I believe a lot of men are attracted to larger women, however they are swayed by what society has deemed as the perfect woman. Would like to hear your comments.:cool:

    I agree to an extent. I think that some men who are into the size 2 100-pound girl would totally bang a size-16 185-pounder. I doubt they would admit it. I doubt the majority would be eager to bone a bed-ridden chick who needs help getting out of bed. So I guess the whole weight cut off line is kind of blurry. It's fine though, everyone has their likes and dislikes.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 12:55 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mafiaangel180
    Sorry, I chose the wrong word, I meant athletic not energetic. I know several women who are in the 180 pound area who you might call fat and they could run circles around many thin people when it comes to sports. It's because they have a lot of muscle under that fat. And also, you are talking about keeling over from heart attacks....it's not just fat people who die from them. But that's a given.

    I agree... but fat people do suffer disproportionately from that. Not to mention a slew of other problems. When you are 20 its one thing and you might get away with it for a while, but it will catch up with you by the time you are 50. If it hasn't by 40.

    Hip joints and knees wear out... and before anyone says they do hip joint replacement. Yes they do but they typically wear out in 10 years and you won't get it done a second time because the risk for a bone infection of the pelvis is so great.

    Like a car... the harder something gets used the faster it wears out.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 01:10 PM
    mafiaangel180
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy
    I agree....but fat people do suffer disproportionately from that. Not to mention a slew of other problems. when you are 20 its one thing and you might get away with it for a while, but it will catch up with you by the time you are 50. if it hasn't by 40.

    Hip joints and knees wear out....and before anyone says they do hip joint replacement. Yes they do but they typically wear out in 10 years and you won't get it done a second time because the risk for a bone infection of the pelvis is so great.

    Like a car....the harder something gets used the faster it wears out.

    Oh I definitely agree. Being obese does catch up when your middle-aged. But then again so does a skinny guy's cheeseburger and hot wing diet lol. My dad muscular and fit and looks pretty good for his age, but looks are nothing when your insides are shot.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 01:13 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mafiaangel180
    Oh I definitely agree. Being obese does catch up when your middle-aged. But then again so does a skinny guy's cheeseburger and hot wing diet lol. My dad muscular and fit and looks pretty good for his age, but looks are nothing when your insides are shot.

    Plenty of reason to watch ones diet. You are what you eat.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 01:17 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy
    Plenty of reason to watch ones diet. You are what you eat.

    Hello smoothy:

    You are not! I've been eating jumbo wieners for a long time and nothing is happening.

    excon
  • Jan 22, 2008, 01:25 PM
    mafiaangel180
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon
    Hello smoothy:

    You are not! I've been eating jumbo wieners for a long time and nothing is happening.

    excon

    Lmao!!
  • Jan 22, 2008, 01:27 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon
    Hello smoothy:

    You are not! I've been eating jumbo wieners for a long time and nothing is happening.

    excon

    I gave up regular hot dogs years ago after I found out high fat diets is a huge factor in colon cancer. And yes, My father and a male cousin had that, Cousin had it in his 30's and survived it, my father wasn't so lucky.

    Only hot dogs I eat these days are fat free.


    And yeah... I did get the joke... :D

    Maybe if you switch to kielbasa? :D
  • Jan 22, 2008, 01:51 PM
    kp2171
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon
    Hello smoothy:

    You are not! I've been eating jumbo wieners for a long time and nothing is happening.

    excon

    Cracked me up

    Wrong on several levels
  • Jan 22, 2008, 03:40 PM
    simoneaugie
    I don't know if sex is different with a fat girl. I've never had sex with a girl. The best sex I ever had was with a fat guy. He had a very small one too. I always got huge crushes on overweight men. They refrain from making remarks like "she sat on my face and almost suffocated me." They stare less openly and say ruder things under their breath as a rule.

    You can say that body type is a preference, but how are our preferences formed?
  • Jan 22, 2008, 05:05 PM
    kp2171
    I think our preferences are formed by a little of everything around us. Obviously what the media puts out there can shape our opinions, but simply having positive or negative experiences can too.

    For ex, when in my young 20's, even late teens, for some reason I was most attracted to blondes, and some to brown hair. I didn't think brunettes looked bad, I just was naturally attracted to blondes. Dated one for 7 years. It got ugly. Obviously this has NOTHING to do with her hair color, right?

    Didn't matter. When I was done with that relationship I just didn't seek out anybody who was blonde, and really, since have dated (and married) all brunettes.

    Now... there is NO logic in the thinking "one blonde treated me poorly, so all will"... I don't believe that at all, and I have found some attractive for sure... its just I somehow became wired to look at the brunette first.

    You say you've had a bad experience w thinner men, or at least better experiences with heavier men. OK. Now maybe there is more reason there... in that a person who is heavier might be more forgiving about body type... but still... all it took was one good experience to shape your thinking, right?

    Honestly, no matter the size, hair, or whatever features you want to talk about... one of the sexiest things a woman can have is self confidence. And whenever I knew a woman was interested in me, she usually became more interesting herself... some kind of return of admiration and wondering what exactly do they like about me...

    As for tying into the original question... I think a lover who can get into your head and who is attentive, while also being more than a sexual maid or butler, is always best.

    Why my cousin is attracted to bigger women, I don't know. He just is. Even though he's as fit as the next guy running several miles every day on the treadmill.

    Inner beauty is certainly important, but we still have our general likes and dislikes for the most part where physical interest is concerned.
  • Jan 22, 2008, 06:37 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon
    Hello smoothy:

    You are not! I've been eating jumbo wieners for a long time and nothing is happening.

    excon

    LMAO... thats hilarious!!
  • Jan 22, 2008, 10:50 PM
    simoneaugie
    What about the biological drive to reproduce? It makes sense that a guy is attracted to a very young appearing woman. A young woman is more likely to have many (of his) babies. Younger women are often thin, many have long legs. Magazines and porn cater to this. Big breasts, I think that's learned as opposed to biological. The average mammary gland is about the size of a small fried egg, everything else is fat, skin and nipple. It's no wonder they start to sag.

    Large breasts do not ensure good milk production. Big enough and they guarantee stares and an aching back. I love my double As. Guys have suggested, many times, that I should buy myself some big ones. But then I couldn't go jogging with no bra. If you have ever worn a bra in the summer time, you would surely understand.

    Anyway, I think that most of sexual attraction is biologically driven. As much as we would like to think that it's our choice. It's probably as much taste and smell as appearance. Have you ever asked someone out, who didn't smell good to you? Ever wanted to continue making out with a person who's saliva wasn't great? Blondes taste milder than darker-haired people as a rule. But if someone looks OK and tastes and smells great, isn't that part of the chemistry?

    I agree that attraction to one type or another can be based on just one positive or negative experience. People are funny. They were totally weird way back when, when a thin woman was scorned as a poor baby-maker.
  • Feb 18, 2008, 08:33 PM
    eruditemargaret9
    [QUOTE=kp2171]deep breath... OK...

    My cousin likes "bigger" women. Its his thing. His opinion. His preference.

    I've usually dated women who were fit. My preference. My opinion.

    I understand about our preferences but I am curious: what is your idea of fit? Or anyone's for that matter--there is a nebulous place between heavy and fit. What if a woman with a large frame is indeed fit but bigger? Do you mean you like petite women? Petite women that are fit? What does constitute fit? Someone who looks like she is but can't run a mile without stopping? When you say fit do you mean thin? What if a woman is thin--seemingly fit but doesn't have a sculpted tone look? Do you look for a woman that has muscles or curves? I know this is insane but a conversation I've always wanted to have and have been very curious about...
  • Feb 18, 2008, 09:48 PM
    kp2171
    I get what you are asking. Fit means a lot of things depending on the angle.

    I've usually dated moderately athletic women with curves... not skinny waifs who couldn't name their last meal. Not necessarily women who had "optimal" weight or bmi's. My wife, for ex, is strong, fit, a runner... she works out 5+ times a week. That said, her bmi drives her mad cause its "too high"... and personally I think it's a crock much of the time.

    so what is fit when I talk about my own personal attraction? Probably someone who you wouldn't look at and say that person is especially overweight, maybe you'd say they could lose a little (like most of us can at least)... someone who moves their body and considers physical health a priority. Fitness is about a lifestyle and a mindset, not just a form.

    my wife is a long, lean, curvy italian girl, but before her I dated a different italian girl who was shorter, bigger, curvier, a little "softer"... she was sexy as sin too. She might not have fit the strictest visual description of being really, really fit... but she was fit, in my mind. Active physically, reasonably healthy, energetic.

    so... my point wasn't my trying to state any ideal... PLEASE... before I get a bunch of disagrees thrown around... that wasn't the spirit of my original post.

    I might be a loudmouth from time to time, but read between the lines before I'm called superficial...

    the original post was to state diff people like many diff things, such as my "fit" cousin (reasonably athletic) who loves heavier women. Doesn't mean he doesn't find "skinnier" girls attractive from time to time.

    and likewise, I know one woman friend most would call "overweight" whom I think is also sexy and attractive. A confident woman is about the sexiest thing there is.

    so yeah, I've tended to take a narrower range... but there are women who are attracted to taller men only, and on and on.

    one of my wife's fav greeting cards had a "hunk" in a bathing suit on the front and the words "no matter how good he looks...."

    and on the inside said "someone, somewhere is TIRED of putting up with his crap"...
    =)

    so you need balance. What catches your eye and what satiates your mind.
  • Feb 18, 2008, 10:00 PM
    eruditemargaret9
    I LOVE the card you referred to! Ah!
  • Feb 18, 2008, 10:08 PM
    Synnen
    and likewise, i know one woman friend most would call "overweight" whom i think is also sexy and attractive. a confident woman is about the sexiest thing there is.

    Awwww... KP, I had no idea you thought so! Thanks! ;)
  • Feb 20, 2008, 03:08 AM
    closefriend29
    Mmm... if there is a big woman... I would love it. I mean big - I don't say plump. And with them its heaven. Mmm. The look of a nude big woman is instant arousal... as I type this I am getting aroused just by the thought of a big woman.
  • Feb 20, 2008, 10:09 AM
    mirandycc
    I know plenty of men who find large women attractive, and I think you need to lower your standards if you are anything like smoothy, because its people like him that depress large people, and that causes them to overeat, and get even fatter, where as if you were to encourage, and not judge, they'd be a lot better off. I think broad shoulders are repulsive, and I think men under 6 feet are too short, but I would not be mean to you about it.
  • Feb 20, 2008, 10:45 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mirandycc
    i know plenty of men who find large women attractive, and i think you need to lower your standards if you are anything like smoothy, because its people like him that depress large people, and that causes them to overeat, and get even fatter, where as if you were to encourage, and not judge, they'd be a lot better off. I think broad shoulders are repulsive, and i think men under 6 feet are too short, but i would not be mean to you about it.

    I don't belittle large women... or even ignore them... but they are not what turn me on. That's never stopped them from being my friends. They just were not my lovers.

    Trust me, there are plenty of women that put down short guys, big guys... all sort of guys because they aren't what THEY happen to like. And that is NO different. And trust me... most of them were nothing special themselves.

    Everyone likes something different. If you like large rather hairy women? More power to you, you are welcome to them... me, I'm entitled to what I like just as everyone else is.

    Listen to certain women on the board complaining about how their partner makes love, the fact he wants to hang out with his friends, or likes to watch porn... or Ohhhhhh and Ahhhhhhhh because they think Brad Pitt is so hot but do you see them flocking to guys like Jack Black? Noooooooooooo. If people spent a little time looking at themselves rather than pointing fingers and blaming others they might see where their problems originate. And if what that is isn't clear, They can get the same answer of who is at fault by looking in a mirror.

    Funny how certain people think they feel its perfectly fine to pig out on Haggen Daz and take little effort to stay in any sort of shape yet get offended and blame men because we find that unatractive. How many of you igore the buff good looking guy and go after the ugly little troll? Not many right. Why is that different? I'd bet many of those "trolls" have a more pleasant personality than the Buff young guy with an ego enough for 10 people, and a bad attitude to match.
  • Feb 21, 2008, 07:20 PM
    BROCKSGIRL86
    I have to say this. I am a bigger woman. I am 5"10 300lbs. I am married to a 6'2 220 lbs man, that loves me for who I am. We have sex damn there everyother day, and he can't get enough of me.
    All I really have to say is that it is the person. Some like big some don't.
    It is all in the way that you carrie yourself, I think that I'm sexy so I act that way, I dress nice when we go out, and I try to take care of myself.
    But I don't know this question just kind of hit a nurve. Man why can't you pigs just leave the bigger girls alone, we have never done anything thing to you. Just stop, we need some loven to.
  • Feb 21, 2008, 07:40 PM
    N0help4u
    If you think you can handle big... I guess??

    On Jerry Springer their claim is more pushin' for the cushion.

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