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Originally Posted by koureli

the problem is I AM NOT IN MY TEENS i would kill to go again and do it right... that was where the problem started in the first place

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The problem is you act like a 12 year boy old that doesn't have a clue how relationships work, and doesn't know how to talk to females and not a 27 year old man.

Until someone invents a time machine that not only lets you travel back in time but to decrease in age as well, and that's not going to happen in your lifetime. Star Trek is just a TV show.

Find a concellor and start going. Listen to what they have to say. And do it.

You are 27, if you somehow manage to find a 14 year old girl, sucker her into sex, and get caught, you WILL be getting all the sex you can handle... all of it with you bent over a bunk in jail being a number of prisoners "girlfriend" getting your anus worn out.

Now if you still think you are entitled to relive your teen years AGAIN with teen girls... thats legally considered both Pedophillia, and Statutory rape. You have all the respect and honor in prison that's afforded to the prison Snitch.

Which means... you do your time ALONE in segrigation or you get to be the sperm receptacle of your cell block.


So... get help... forget anyone remotely young... and get help. You can not see where your problem is... we can, you are not going to fix what's broke without the help we recommend you get.

Nobody WANTS to see you in jail or worse, we are trying to convince you to seek help you can not get online.

Everyone is pretty much in agreement here, so I'm not really adding anything profound.

Forget your teen years. You get nothing out of that except for depression.

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Originally Posted by koureli

that i look "cool" for my circle BUT inside im not......... and eventually women get that......

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You're right, this is your problem. There's a conflict between who you are and what you want to be, or really, who you are and you who think you are. This is the root of diffidence. If you know who you are and are willing to admit it to society at large, then confidence comes naturally.

Once you do that, everything seems to fall into place.

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Originally Posted by koureli

the problem is I AM NOT IN MY TEENS i would kill to go again and do it right... that was where the problem started in the first place

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I don't think you want to let go of the past. It is a security blanket. It is a rationalization for why you aren't in a relationship and an excuse for why you don't try. The past was this way so the future has to be too is false thinking.

Have you looked at getting counseling? Have you looked into self-help books? Have you tried being yourself instead of what you think women want?

We can reach out to you, but until you take our hands there is nothing more we can do. We can fill a thread with the same advice over and over, but you have to do the work. I don't think you are ready to yet. Can you prove my thinking wrong by actually taking some of the advice we have given or at least thinking about it instead of coming back with why you can't because you 'messed up' your past?

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Originally Posted by Synnen

But what's wrong with the way you did it?

You WISH you'd been a jerk and a player in your teens so that you can be a jerk and player now?

That's just silly.

You NEED to work on liking who you are, and you need to work on your confidence. THOSE are the only passwords that will make people interested in you.

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synnen got me right, I didn't say I want to sex a 14 y o at 27 but I wish I had when I was younger... and yes I wish I was a jerk then.. so I can be a normal person now... in fact from my circle I see that the most girls go to those who misstreat them.. that's the way it is sorry...

anyway you can't see the problem.. I LOOK COOL AND EVERYBODY THINKS I AM... BECAUSE PROBABLY I AM EXCEPT FOR SEX.. BUT INSIDE I AM NOT...

and in 2010 you are who and how much you F^ck...

the advice you give me can't be taken unless I start a NEW LIFE from 0... but I'm not sure I want to do that.. it would be very unconfortable... the only solution I see is to go to another country maybe, maybe one that women are more aggressive for 1-2 years and then go back to greece to continue my life here..

As for counceling... the professional type I mean... I will never go I find it very degrading... I am an intelligent person and I can't accept that someone gets paid to tell me bull****... it's the same as prostitutes that get paid to give "love"

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Originally Posted by koureli

as for counceling... the professional type i mean... i will never go i find it very degrading... i am an inteligent person and i can't accept that someone gets payed to tell me bull****... its the same as prostitutes that get payed to give "love"

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They don't get paid to tell you anything. They get paid to help you figure out how to fix the problems you see with your life. Much like a plumber gets paid to fix a leak or a mechanic gets paid to fix a car.

If you think it is 'degrading' to pay for help (likening it to prostitution), I can only surmise that you think of us as the women you want to use for your own experience.

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Originally Posted by koureli

as for counceling... the professional type i mean... i will never go i find it very degrading... i am an inteligent person and i can't accept that someone gets payed to tell me bull****... its the same as prostitutes that get payed to give "love"

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Then you really don't want to get better. And won't. Because at 27 with what you are saying... it isn't going to happen. Read what you said above again, they are not bull**tting you, you are the one that's been bull**tting yourself about everything so long you believe it.

I'm honestly starting to believe you aren't a 12 year old but a troll. But please, prove me wrong.

You keep telling us we can't see your problem. I think everyone here has a pretty good handle on what the problem is. The trouble is you don't want to consider any of the possible solutions.

So it is your choice. Keep doing what you have been doing and get the same results. Or take a deep breath and accept that you need to be prepared to change some things if you want a different outcome. It is up to you.

Why is counseling degrading?

It's someone who has been TRAINED to help you look outside of the view you're stuck looking at--to show you other doors and windows, if you will.

I have been in counseling off and on my whole life for a choice I made when I was a teenager. Sometimes my mind just won't let me find the solution that is making me crazy and unhappy--and it's sometimes that I just need to talk it through with someone who is not going to judge me.

You NEED help. You will never have what you want if you keep looking at things the way you do right now.

Kourelli, I understand what you are saying and going through. You just want a woman to care enough about YOU as a person to want to kiss and make love to you. You are just lonely, that's all. You associate sex with someone who cares. Paying for it is just mechanical. You want the real thing. Yhat's why you call yourself a "virgin". What you should , as millions before you have done, is join a dating sit. This way you can talk and get to know someone without fear of rejection. I feel for you because everyone needs physical contact, {especially at your age} and you just haven't had the experience. Well try online dating, you will find someone and who knows, he may even lead to something serious.. Hang in there, pal, it will get better for you. Just remember to make sure the sex is consensual..

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Originally Posted by beachloverjohn

kourelli, I understand what you are saying and going through. You just want a woman to care enough about YOU as a person to want to kiss and make love to you. You are just lonely, that's all. You associate sex with someone who cares. Paying for it is just mechanical. You want the real thing. Yhat's why you call yourself a "virgin". What you should , as millions before you have done, is join a dating sit. This way you can talk and get to know someone without fear of rejection. I feel for you because everyone needs physical contact, {especially at your age} and you just haven't had the experience. Well try online dating, you will find someone and who knows, he may even lead to something serious.. Hang in there, pal, it will get better for you. Just remember to make sure the sex is consensual..

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Oh, you aren't exempt from rejection on a dating site... if fact you might get more there than you would in real life. After all if you have a larger pool to choose from, that's a larger pool that can be more arbitrary in screening through people.

I.E. If you have tem possibilities in real life... and 100 online. Who won't eliminate most of that 100 far easier than most of only 10?

It boils down to selling yourself... not literally... you have to essentually make people aware of who you are, and what you have to offer.

Now, you aren't entitled to anything any more than they are.

Want entitlement... you get paired with a 400 lb female smoker with poor personall hygine and ever worse social skills, and you can't say anything about it.

If you want that supermodel, then you better be able to #1 sell yourself and have what they are looking for.

After all, if YOU don't want a toad... remember THEY don't want a toad either.

And keep in mind... if you don't have THAT much to offer... and remember its what THEY see, not what YOU believe that matters. THen maybe you are out of your legue and need to set your sites for something more along the lines of what you really have to offer (again from their perspective).


It's a pretty rare Troll that gets to date Heidi Klum or any other famous good lood looking woman. THere are LOTS of good looking average women out there that are a more suitible goal.

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Originally Posted by beachloverjohn

kourelli, I understand what you are saying and going through. You just want a woman to care enough about YOU as a person to want to kiss and make love to you. You are just lonely, that's all. You associate sex with someone who cares. Paying for it is just mechanical. You want the real thing. Yhat's why you call yourself a "virgin". What you should , as millions before you have done, is join a dating sit. This way you can talk and get to know someone without fear of rejection. I feel for you because everyone needs physical contact, {especially at your age} and you just haven't had the experience. Well try online dating, you will find someone and who knows, he may even lead to something serious.. Hang in there, pal, it will get better for you. Just remember to make sure the sex is consensual..

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Hallo man thank you for your reply I'm already on more than one "dating sites" (Facebook etc) BUT at least in greece if you don't have the sixpack you don't go anywhere with those sites... as for chatting... women there have heard it all. You can't make a clever and original comment they have heard it before. On the other hand even if you say " i want you now", if you have the right pictures you may get the girl.. dating sites are no use here for the averege person

And in fact I should inform you (I have written it before) that in my life I had chances to hook up with really nice girls BUT I never did because of the fear that they will know I don't know anything about these things and they will not only reject me, but they will inform their friends etc.. Sorry but that's how it is. If a girl makes out with someone who is for example a bad kisser then all her friends know the other day

This thread is going no where fast, so

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