Originally Posted by
smoothy
Agin...purely perspective of women with self esteme issues.
Talk to some dancers....being degraded...hardly...they are in control and sucker guys out of their money for a little jiggle. Many make over $500 an hour for doing nothing more than shaking their butt and laughing on their way to the bank. Hardly women being exploited. This isn't a third world Brothel we are talking about. I'm not saying it doesn't happen in the world because it does....to both sexes for different reasons.
Who gets upset about men preffering in shape women that take care of themselves? Obviously the larger women that can't be bothered to exercize or watch their calorig intake. Trust me women get the same exact way when it comes to men...they case after a arrogant Brad Pitt rather than chase after the really nice guy that happens wo weight 350 lbs. So its not purely a guy thing there.
Again, I don't think it's as simple as self esteem. I know several educated, beautiful women that are fit and take care of themselves. Have successful careers, and have very healthy self esteems and feelings of self worth. Yet, many of those people find strip clubs to be degrading. Is it because they have poor self esteem? Nope. You'd have to ask them yourselves, but I believe it's because of the negative connotations associated with these clubs. One of the women I speak of has a masters degree in psychology and has actually done extensive research in this field. The research she did found that the majority of women working in strip clubs had extremely low feelings of self worth. Most of them began to hate men because of the way they acted in the club, and some of them would only date other women - not because they were born lesbian, but because working in the clubs had created such a loathing and mistrust of all men. Most of the women also had drug issues. Most got high or drunk on a consistant basis just so that they could deal with the objectification and the horrid way in which the men acted. Note that I keep saying the word "most". I'd have to ask my friend on specific statistics, but in all of these various examples I am giving, the statistics were well over 65%. That's very significant I think.
To each their own, but I don't believe that sacrificing your self dignity for money is empowerment, and I don't believe that it equates to self respect. Perhaps I am in the minority, but I would much rather scrape by doing something that I loved to do and gave me a feeling of real accomplishment and self worth. To me, accomplishment is not looking a certain way and having people stare at you and then in turn give you money for that.
