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  • Apr 10, 2007, 01:04 PM
    spachet
    Smoking weed, can it mess my head up?
    I want to know does weed mess with everyone's head?
    I have smoked weed once or twice, OK a lot of the time and I think it messing me up but I really enjoy it. Or at least I think I do!
    What is it with weed? Is it addictive? Can it really harm you and your mental health?
    If I have been realising changes within myself that others can see and its not good could weed be y?
    I want to know what everyone really thinks about it and how many people really have tried it?
    Please help.:D
  • Apr 10, 2007, 01:08 PM
    magprob
    Weed is very addictive. If you spend your time high and not in reality, don't you think that may alter your perception just a little.
  • Apr 10, 2007, 01:11 PM
    Emland
    All I can do is give you examples from my life.

    My ex brother-in-law loved weed more than his family. It cost him his marriage, his house and the respect of his kids. He lives in a broken down RV in someone's back yard and can only get day labor work because he is so addicted.

    Also had a coworker's mother who went to Club Fed in WV - the same place Martha Stewart went - because she loved weed so much and sold a little on the side.

    Although many feel it is no worse than booze, it is still illegal and can get you in trouble for life. There are a lot of other things out there that can make you feel good. Why not explore those?
  • Apr 10, 2007, 01:15 PM
    spachet
    Wnt to say that I have read the messages and they are right but I still feel confused.
    So what other interesting and fun things can I do in life?
    I'm not rich so I can't do anything that costs a lot. What can I do?
  • Apr 10, 2007, 01:18 PM
    MrsJoseph06
    Absolutely weed is addictive and can alter your personality and a wide aray of other issues! I used to smoke pot a lot mainly as an excape from some ty things that happened to me! It made me incredible lazy! My sister and Brother in law smoke pot a lot they have no ambition to better there lifes! They have 2 kids and are on welfare! Living in a trailer with one kid sleeping in a closet! How sad is that? I hope you know that weed has a huge affect upon your life and the relationships you have! It is illegal and you can get in a lot of trouble for using it! I know it feels really good but don't you want to do something with your life? I hope you find the answers you want!
  • Apr 10, 2007, 01:19 PM
    magprob
    Backpacking, swimming/diving, fishing, snowshoe, weight lift and become huge, take some classes and become smart, read really good books.
  • Apr 10, 2007, 01:22 PM
    Emland
    Spachet, this may sound super simple but jogging can give you a wonderful feeling. After 15-20 minutes your body lets loose endorphines and makes you feel really good. The first 15 minutes can be a challenge for new runners, but hang in there and you will feel it, too.

    Volunteering at your local community center, nursing home and/or hospitals are a great way to meet people and build a sense of purpose in your life and make you feel great.

    Practicing yoga or tai-chi (you can get books at the library) can help you with mind and body and that way you don't need to seek an outside substance to entertain yourself.

    Hope these help.
  • Apr 11, 2007, 11:42 AM
    justme005
    I heard weed is not addcitive... I mean I smoked every single day of my life for like a year and a half.. I was going to classes high, and everything. Every single thing I did I was high. People would see me when I wasn't high and just ASSUME I was high... When I wasn't high my head did feel a little cloudy and I was always tired. But I don't think it can mess your head up in the long run... just be careful with it, only do it on occasion.
    Needless to say after that yr and a half my smoking pot really slowed down... I only do it on occasion if I'm in the mood. Something has to change within yourself and you have to get the motivation to just stop and start running and working out a day or two a week. It makes you feel amazing and keeps you in shape.
  • Apr 11, 2007, 11:48 AM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spachet
    im not rich so i can't do anything that costs alot.

    You will have more money to do things if you aren't buying ganga.

    Dope is addictive, not physically, but psychologically.
  • Apr 11, 2007, 12:44 PM
    Matt3046
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spachet
    jus wnt to say that i have read the messages and they are right but i still feel confused.
    so what other interesting and fun things can i do in life?
    im not rich so i can't do anything that costs alot. what can i do?

    Of course you are confused your hi, LOL. Just kidding (maybe).
    I don't know how old you are but in life you must set and attain goals and smoking pot will not help you in this. Pot is harmfully physically and mentally.
    Interesting things to do, hmm, hobbies are always good, biking, jogging, hiking, going to the gym. The library, church, school, friends that don't smoke weed. Get a girlfriend. A good way to start with hobbies is go to the book store and look at the magazines, think about what you might like. Smoking pot is a ticket to loosertown. There is a reason it is illegal.
  • Apr 11, 2007, 08:50 PM
    cutter43
    Yeah I like was just stoned an hour ago.. and personally I don't think that it is addicting.. yeah it does make you feel better but people that aren't sad or depressed and just do it is cause there like yeah I'm bored.. but I think it does mess with your head I have like a total short term memory now and it was good..
  • Apr 11, 2007, 08:57 PM
    Lillian42
    Just don't do it you don't want to risk getting caught going to jail disappointing your parents jail is not fun trust me and its so not worth if just to smoke a joint!
  • Apr 12, 2007, 03:04 AM
    WeAreLost
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spachet
    i want to know does weed mess with everyones head?
    i have smoked weed once or twice, ok alot of the time and i think it messing me up but i really enjoy it. or at least i think i do!
    what is it with weed? is it addictive? can it really harm you and your mental health?
    if i have been realising changes within myself that others can see and its not good could weed be y?
    i want to know what every1 really thinks about it and how many people really have tried it?
    please help.:D

    I hate to give you such a quick response but its my gut feeling you already need help because of the lack of knowledge you have now. You are playing with a gun in a child's hand, ready to go off, and your asking what will that do? Will someone get hurt? The answer to these questions is yes as well as yours will weed mess me up.
  • Apr 12, 2007, 03:28 AM
    iAMfromHuntersBar
    One of many stories I'm guessing, just this one was high-profile here in the UK;

    BBC NEWS | England | Berkshire | Paranoia 'gripped killer's mind'
  • Apr 12, 2007, 06:16 AM
    ordinaryguy
    I've smoked pot from time to time for almost 40 years, and I can tell you that all of the horror stories about what it will "do to you" or "make you do" are pure bullsh!t. It won't make you do or be anything that you aren't already. But if you don't know who you are, and you're looking for an excuse to get stupid, you can use it for that. "Addictiveness" turns out to be a somewhat slippery concept, but if it's addictive at all, it's far less so than alcohol or nicotine, and far less damaging to your health than booze or tobacco. The most dangerous thing about it is that you can get a felony conviction and thrown in prison for a long time for possessing it.
  • Apr 12, 2007, 06:30 AM
    ashleysb
    Everyone on this site can give you their opinion on weather pot is good, bad, or the other for you, and can even find sites to back it up. But there is one fact about it that everyone can agree on: You can get into serious trouble. And I have a feeling prison would "mess with your head" more than most drugs would. Just my opinion... ;)
  • Apr 12, 2007, 06:34 AM
    Krs
    Why do many people think that if you smoke pot you will get into trouble and go to prison.. can someone explain that to me? :confused:
  • Apr 12, 2007, 06:54 AM
    Emland
    Krs, a coworker of mine spent 2.5 years in WV for her love of weed. Although she went up for selling it. My boss hired her back because he felt sorry for her.

    Another coworker has 2 sons and they love weed and surprise, surprise - can't keep a job. They were living with her mother-in-law and got shown the door when they were caught stealing the old lady's pain medication. This old woman is terminal with cancer and these two losers were stealing her meds so they could buy pot.

    The pot usually isn't the reason you go to jail but it causes you to make stupid decisions that can ruin you for life. (See my previous post about ex-brother in law)
  • Apr 12, 2007, 07:50 AM
    Krs
    Yes but not all people are like that!
    It's the same as booze and alcoholics.. if you can't handle it - just don't do it!

    Ive smoked pot and I'm not ashamed to say it!
    I have a great job, I'm happily married, lived overseas, own a nice apartment... so you can't just justify that!
    I have a clean police record and never ever stole or harmed anyone!
  • Apr 12, 2007, 08:05 PM
    Lillian42
    I do have to agree with Krs not all people who smoke pot are bad. I know a girl smokes weed every day is a damn good mom has a great job and nice house not many peeps know she smokes though but I will say she has got arrested one time because of it not because of dumb decisions but because of the dumb peeps she hung out with
  • Apr 12, 2007, 09:24 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleysb
    Everyone on this site can give you their opinion on weather pot is good, bad, or the other for you, and can even find sites to back it up. But there is one fact about it that everyone can agree on: You can get into serious trouble. And I have a feeling prison would "mess with your head" more than most drugs would. Just my opinion.... ;)

    YES, YES, YES. I spent today in a state mental hospital. The unit I was on was the forensic unit. They specialize in the criminally insane. You know, people who are found Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity (NGRI). I can tell you that it was not the drugs that caused the insanity, but, from speaking to the 30+ patients on the unit, that it was the drugs that contributed to the crime.

    The most prevalent drugs were marijuana, cocaine (crack), and alcohol. The men on this unit were under the influence of one or more of these drugs when they committed their crimes.

    So, while weed itself does not cause crime and/or mental illness in and of itself, it is certainly a factor.
  • Apr 13, 2007, 10:20 AM
    ordinaryguy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9
    I can tell you that it was not the drugs that caused the insanity, but, from speaking to the 30+ patients on the unit, that it was the drugs that contributed to the crime.

    Yes, for those of you who are insane, I agree that J_9 is absolutely right; you shouldn't smoke pot. I trust that you will see the wisdom of her advice and adhere to it scrupulously.
  • Apr 14, 2007, 05:13 PM
    Josh_A
    Just to speak to the "laziness" and lack of ambition bit... I think one thing that pot does is help people disconnect from the Western capitalism story that keeps "the rest of us" on the rat race treadmill.

    I see that as a good thing. The problem comes when they don't have any other compelling story to replace it with.

    If you weren't taught how to make your life mean something on your own, then you smoke an herb that "takes away" the story you were given, then I guess it's time to go read some Victor Frankl. Of course turning on the PlayStation is so much easier...

    As an aside, it's funny to hear people say things like, "There's a reason it's illegal," since, where I live, it's not.
  • Apr 14, 2007, 05:32 PM
    TheSavage
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9
    YES, YES, YES. I spent today in a state mental hospital. The unit I was on was the forensic unit. They specialize in the criminally insane. You know, people who are found Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity (NGRI). I can tell you that it was not the drugs that caused the insanity, but, from speaking to the 30+ patients on the unit, that it was the drugs that contributed to the crime.

    The most prevalent drugs were marijuana, cocaine (crack), and alcohol. The men on this unit were under the influence of one or more of these drugs when they committed their crimes.

    So, while weed itself does not cause crime and/or mental illness in and of itself, it is certainly a factor.

    Ok Ive talked to cops , and each and ever one of them said they could not think of arresting a pot user for a crime that they had committed under the influence of weed and weed alone.
    When you get right down to it -- most of the cops Ive spoken to feel the weed laws are a waste of time. -- Savage
  • Apr 14, 2007, 11:02 PM
    brazygirl08
    You MIGHT get "addicted" to the FEELING. But you won't have withdraw feelings! I mean its not like crack or even cigs... just don't get high daily... It is NOT addictive... wow the government is not always right... putting lies into ppls heads... like global warming is fake... yea OK bush
  • Apr 14, 2007, 11:07 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Josh_A
    Just to speak to the "laziness" and lack of ambition bit... I think one thing that pot does is help people disconnect from the Western capitalism story that keeps "the rest of us" on the rat race treadmill.

    I see that as a good thing. The problem comes when they don't have any other compelling story to replace it with.

    If you weren't taught how to make your life mean something on your own, then you smoke an herb that "takes away" the story you were given, then I guess it's time to go read some Victor Frankl. Of course turning on the PlayStation is so much easier...

    As an aside, it's funny to hear people say things like, "There's a reason it's illegal," since, where I live, it's not.

    And, just where do you live?
  • Apr 26, 2007, 03:15 PM
    excon
    Hello spach:

    The worst thing about pot is the trouble you can get into by using it.

    excon
  • Apr 26, 2007, 03:36 PM
    ordinaryguy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Supercarman
    Hello, We wish to comment on this.

    Kids are told that pot is bad and they try it and then they realize that the information they were given was bull. At this point whoever told them that has no credibility and they may try other drugs that do offer a real threat to there life.

    We wish you well

    You're right. The problem with exaggerating the dangers of pot is that it leads people to disregard warnings about drugs that really are dangerous.

    I'm curious. Who is this "we" you refer to in your posts? Are you perhaps royalty and accustomed to using the royal "we"? Or is somebody else helping you compose your answers?
  • Apr 26, 2007, 03:55 PM
    padddy
    Me and my mates use to smoke weed and out of the lot of us I was scarus because I had seen what it can do to people it can litirally ruin your life accedemically mentally and physically. If I was you I would seriously stop while your ahead and if your friends do not wish to reason with your view then the best thing to do is to find other friends I no it seems hard and unfair but I no because I had to do it. I lost a lot of good friends over weed but at least I no a did the right thing.
  • Apr 26, 2007, 05:55 PM
    Emland
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Supercarman
    Hi Emland,
    We do not reciprocate any hostility toward you.
    If our using the word "we" made you conscious of hostility and resistance inside you we are glad that our presence has aided in making you more conscious.

    Sarcasm, just one more service I offer.

    Quote:

    We fail to see what you disagree with? The thread is entitled "smoking weed, can it mess my head up?" and after you appeared to make some kind of insult to us you point out that pot is illegal. Its legal status in the US is quite irrelevant to the subject of this thread or my post.
    Did you read my post about my ex-brother-in-law? My co-worker's son is soooo devoted to weed that he steals his terminal grandmother's pain pills to trade for it. All I can tell you is that I have never met a person who regularly uses pot that is a productive member of society. Oh yeah, they can quit anytime they want - they just never want to quit.

    Quote:

    "Grass, the war on drugs" narrated by Woody Harrelson (the Woody from the TV show Cheers)
    Woody Harrelson? Now that's a great thinker. Are you kidding?

    Here I bet I am going to shock you. I don't care what anyone wants to put in their body as long as it doesn't affect me as well as society as a whole. By that I mean I don't want to have to pay higher property taxes because we need more police to keep the thugs in line. I don't want to have to pay more insurance fees to cover the junkies ODing in the local emergency room. I don't want anyone working for me that has to use a substance to alter their reality because they can't cope (and that includes every feel-good pill pushed on TV, too.)

    Quote:

    We wish you well
    Well, now I have to presume you are Borg. And yes, I will resist whether is it futile or not.
  • Apr 26, 2007, 06:31 PM
    Marcusstorm
    I used to smoke choof a bit too, and although I am still sain, others have not been that lucky. Everyone is different, someone could smoke once, and have a psychotic episode, whereas a person who smokes consistently for years may not feel any adverse affecrs. Its just whether you want to take that risk.
  • Apr 26, 2007, 06:32 PM
    TheSavage
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Emland
    Sarcasm, just one more service I offer.



    Did you read my post about my ex-brother-in-law? My co-worker's son is soooo devoted to weed that he steals his terminal grandmother's pain pills to trade for it. All I can tell you is that I have never met a person who regularly uses pot that is a productive member of society. Oh yeah, they can quit anytime they want - they just never want to quit.



    Woody Harrelson? Now that's a great thinker. Are you kidding?

    Here I bet I am going to shock you. I don't care what anyone wants to put in their body as long as it doesn't affect me as well as society as a whole. By that I mean I don't want to have to pay higher property taxes because we need more police to keep the thugs in line. I don't want to have to pay more insurance fees to cover the junkies ODing in the local emergency room. I don't want anyone working for me that has to use a substance to alter their reality because they can't cope (and that includes every feel-good pill pushed on TV, too.)


    Well, now I have to presume you are Borg. And yes, I will resist whether is it futile or not.

    1st point
    Th fact that fool stole his grannies meds just says he is a thief on top of being a pothead.
    "you've never meet a productive pothead? Sorry to tell you but unless where you work has random monthly pee tests you work along side them everyday.
    Ive been smoking for 30 years and out of 30 people in the steel shop I am the goto guy. -- Crane breaks /welder needs repair / need a crane operator / need someone trained how to do a job/ its get Savage he can fix it -- and they all know I am a pothead.

    " By that I mean I don't want to have to pay higher property taxes because we need more police to keep the thugs in line. I don't want to have to pay more insurance fees to cover the junkies ODing in the local emergency room."

    Potheads are thugs? ask any cop -- they will tell you that potheads are the easiest folks to arrest when it comes to nonviolence and good spirits -- they just say o well I am busted. I target shot with cops and of the 20 or so I have talked about it to 1 thought it should be illegal.--
    Pothead junkies oding? Get a life -- find me just one documented case just one -- till then I will be forced to assume you are a uninformed fool.

    " I don't want anyone working for me that has to use a substance to alter their reality because they can't cope (and that includes every feel-good pill pushed on TV, too.)"
    So I am forced to assume by that statement that people working for you are banned from drinking beer /coffee / chocolate etc?

    " Well, now I have to presume you are Borg. And yes, I will resist whether is it futile or not"
    You seem to have a fixation on his silly we crap -- maybe you need to smoke a joint and get a life. -- Savage
  • Apr 26, 2007, 06:34 PM
    Marcusstorm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spachet
    i want to know does weed mess with everyones head?
    i have smoked weed once or twice, ok alot of the time and i think it messing me up but i really enjoy it. or at least i think i do!
    what is it with weed? is it addictive? can it really harm you and your mental health?
    if i have been realising changes within myself that others can see and its not good could weed be y?
    i want to know what every1 really thinks about it and how many people really have tried it?
    please help.:D

    I used to smoke choof a bit too, and although I am still sain, others have not been that lucky. Everyone is different, someone could smoke once, and have a psychotic episode, whereas a person who smokes consistently for years may not feel any adverse affecrs. Its just whether you want to take that risk.
  • Apr 26, 2007, 06:53 PM
    Emland
    Now who sounds defensive?

    The first point is that the need for the drug has made him forget his responsibility to his family and will let Granny suffer so the sake of his fix.

    The thugs I refer to are not the users, they are the ones moving the crap back and forth and fighting for turf. Local stories abound of innocent people being in the wrong place at the wrong time and getting shot. When I refer to ODing - I am including any and all drugs. I did also forget to mention I would vote to refuse welfare benefits to any junkie or pothead, either. If you pop positive for drugs - no check - you obviously have the means to score so why do you need the welfare? Do what you want, just don't ask me to subsidize it.

    If everyone thinks it is so wonderful, they why can't you get it legalized? Hell, even Clinton owned up to it (kind of) and I believe it is not any worse than booze. (and you guessed it, I have no tolerance for alcoholics, either.) Get your lobbyists together and head for Capital Hill.

    My husband's livlihood depends on his TS clearance. My up close and personal experience with users is how I have formed my opinion.

    Finally, individuals who refer to themselves as "we" irritate the hell out of me.
  • Apr 26, 2007, 07:16 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Emland
    The thugs I refer to are not the users, they are the ones moving the crap back and forth and fighting for turf.

    Hello Em:

    To one who doesn't know, it's easy to buy that kind of DEA propaganda. However, it's just not true. It may be true of crack, but it's not how pot is sold. I've been in the market for 30 years. I'm not going to lie to you.

    There isn't turf. There aren't guns. There aren't wars. There's just a guy who you call up and he comes over. Pot never killed anybody, and its salesmen don't either.

    excon

    PS> As many regular contributors know, I have a prescription for marijuana, and use it liberally. However, so as not to offend your conservative sensibilities, I promise, because it's medicine, not to enjoy it.

    PPS> I also work regularly, pay my taxes and don't drive with my taillights out.
  • Apr 26, 2007, 07:20 PM
    TheSavage
    "Now who sounds defensive?" not so much defensive as dislike of those that post bull as facts.

    "I am including any and all drugs." Did you state that? No you stated tat potheads are oding the only thing I can go by is what you post. Am I supposed to read what's between the lines?

    " If everyone thinks it is so wonderful, they why can't you get it legalized? " You know every study done by the government has said it should be legalize --and gets buried. The drug companies fear and fight it, But slowly is is being done. One of the things that makes it hard is uninformed people like YOU.
    " welfare benefits" now your claiming that potheads are all on welfare?
    "tolerance for alcoholics" your comparing potheads to alcoholics? - how many potheads beat their wives/kids? How many potheads get in fights?how many potheads come to work so hung over they can not preform?

    "My husband's livlihood depends on his TS clearance" so what? What the heck does that point have to do with the fact that others smoke pot?{ and by the way -- at least this old pothead can spell livelihood]

    "Finally, individuals who refer to themselves as "we" irritate the hell out of me."
    Well people that post bull as fact irritate the hell out of me.

    As a side note do you know that outside of at home kids can get pot easier than they can beer-- you know why? Because its illegal thus unregulated. -- Savage
  • Apr 26, 2007, 07:32 PM
    Matt3046
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by justme005
    i heard weed is not addcitive... i mean i smoked every single day of my life for like a year and a half..


    Your life has only been a year and a half? This says something about pot.
  • Apr 27, 2007, 04:36 AM
    ordinaryguy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Supercarman
    "We" - denotes oneself and another or others

    I don't think anybody was having trouble with the definition, the question was who else is it that's being denoted?
  • Apr 27, 2007, 04:40 AM
    Capuchin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Supercarman
    "The FDA also asserted that "there is currently sound evidence that smoked marijuana is harmful"."

    I don't quite understand why you quoted this line..
  • Apr 27, 2007, 06:06 AM
    Emland
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheSavage
    "I am including any and all drugs." Did you state that? No you stated tat potheads are oding the only thing I can go by is what you post. Am I supposed to read what's between the lines?

    No just try reading the post again. I said I don't care what substance you use.

    Quote:

    "If everyone thinks it is so wonderful, they why can't you get it legalized? " You know every study done by the government has said it should be legalize --and gets buried. The drug companies fear and fight it, But slowly is is being done. One of the things that makes it hard is uninformed people like YOU.
    The drug companies are fighting it? The same companies that develop a pill for every little ache and pain? I would think they would be your best friend in this issue - another way of making an easy billion or two.


    Quote:

    "welfare benefits" now your claiming that potheads are all on welfare?
    "tolerance for alcoholics" your comparing potheads to alcoholics? - how many potheads beat their wives/kids? How many potheads get in fights?how many potheads come to work so hung over they can not preform?
    I can count 6 off the top of my head that are on public assistance and that is just from my co-workers and extended family.

    The pothead I am most familiar with beat his wife while pregnant with their daughter because she spent his stash money on the mortgage. That wasn't the only beating - it was just the last one. She finally left after that one.

    And your right, he didn't come to work hungover - he just didn't go to work. He would just get stoned and sit and listen to music for hours on end.

    Quote:

    well people that post bull as fact irritate the hell out of me.
    The cases I cite are from real world, up close and personal experiences. I really didn't have an opinion about pot until my sister married the loser I describe above. Rationalize and justify your addiction all you want. We all know you can quit - anytime you want.

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