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Originally Posted by hannah_nicole

Firstly there is no "drugs" board so where else was I to put this. I know you are all right in your thinking, that this is a bad and stupid decision to make. The people who I love in my life all have, or do use drugs and this causes constant arguments, me wanting them to stop. I wanted to understand why they wont stop. Why they can't give it up and is it really as bad as I make out? Even if they only do it a few times a year? I know its ridiculous, but im in the situation and im here for advice.

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You know I'm just sitting here shaking my head, to know that me a 16yr old can make a better decision than a 19yr old... So what you want to do drugs out of spite? Are you sitting there thinking that you know they do it so I am going to do it to get back at them, the only thing you are accomplishing here is killing even more of your braincells.:confused: is this what you want. If I thought the same way as you well my brothers do drugs so I should to, and while I'm at it I'll get drunk a couple a times a week because well that's what my dad does. I've been there through those arguments, I've locked myself in my room with the music blaring tears rolling down my face with nothing to keep me going but my dog liking my face. But do you know why I don't just leave why I don't just give up, because my family is worth it because even though they cause me so much pain, I love them so much and my mom well she is my hero, she's the strongest person I know she has to deal with everything I do and with her disease. She's one of the big reasons I stay at home and don't just go live with a friend or relatives. You can't seriously say that you want to try drugs because you want to know why they do it!

The OPs first post was misleading. All the 'cards were not on the table' and misunderstanding arose from that. I just read through some of her later posts and found out that some in her family take drugs; she wanted to understand why.

Maybe if she had explained herself, we could have circumvented some of the bad feelings that arose from her first responses. Too bad.

adam_89, the point is that you are putting the information here so it will enlighten other people other than the OP. Whether we disagree with you or not, they are your own opinions and I think, should be shared. :)

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Originally Posted by J_9

I have to TOTALLY disagree with this statement. Xanax is a highly addictive antidepressant and is currently being sold on the black market. There are may others, I just used this one as it is very common.

While some people like the high of amphetamines (sp), others like the low of anti-depressants. I just rode in the ambulance last week to the mental hosptial with a patient who was addicted to antidepressants and alcohol.

Children now go through their parents medicine cabinets and get all the pills they can....stimulants and anti-depressants alike. They all get together and mix the pills then take a handful...it's called a Skittles Party.

Anti-depressants ARE addictive and ARE used recreationally.

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Have to spread the rep!
Exactly she is not asking about a prescription she was prescribed by the doctor she is saying she wants to take them as street drugs so yes they are for a get high addiction purpose.

Whoever thought from the original post that she was asking about prescription drugs (am I missing something here?). Does she sound completely innocent in any of her responses? I don't think so ?

Anyway, it is all over and done with, and as I said, the real reason she was here, which she didn't divulge, I am sure, is her family members are into drugs and she was trying to find out about the usage of same.

No prescriptions ever mentioned by her as far as I know

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Originally Posted by N0help4u

Have to spread the rep!
Exactly she is not asking about a prescription she was prescribed by the doctor she is saying she wants to take them as street drugs so yes they are for a get high addiction purpose.

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I want to be nice here, but this confusion is getting complicated.

I really suggest that you read the posts in this thread again.

Nohelp, you referenced Paxil, a commonly prescribed antidepressant. Antidepressants are not used as recreational drugs.

j_9 referred to xanax, which is an anti-anxiety medication. Xanax can lead to addiction. Xanax has been known to be abused as a recreational drug. Xanax is not an anti-depressant.

My last post covered all of this in great detail.

My apologies, but the arguments that confused those drugs, their use and their effects were factually incorrect.

I hope the OP comes back so we can finally leave this behind in favor of a productive discussion.

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J_9 agrees: Out of lack of sleep I was incorrect, Xanax is usually used in CONJUNCTION

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Oops, I hit the button before I was finished.

As I was saying, Xanax is usually used in conjunction with anti-depressants, a cocktail if you will.

Kids today take all sorts of things, some have pill pariteis where they take prescription medication from there parents mix it all together and take them.

So anything is fair game to many teens today.

I know during my college days, post and all of the 'uppers' were used very excessive in college.
Many students went days without sleep.

The over all issue is that they will ruin your health, stop you from having normal concepts of life if you don't really need them.

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Originally Posted by linnealand

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my apologies, but the arguments that confused those drugs, their use and their effects were factually incorrect.

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There were no arguments whatsoever, just a mistake and that mistake was corrected.

They were not necessarily factually incorrect either. Xanax is an anti anxiety medication used in conjunction with antidepressants. This was where my lack of sleep got the best of me.

Also, as noted above, children frequently go through their parents medicine cabinets that contain anti anxiety meds, pain meds and antidepressants, they mix these pills together and call it a Skittles Party. Very dangerous and sometimes deadly.

I know of people who are addicted to and sell Trazodone, this IS an anti depressant. You see, the nature, I have learned recently at a drug conference, is that certain drugs run in certain circles. While some are popular on the East Coast, they are not popular on the West Coast and so forth.

Ectasy has many forms and can be made in labs such as meth is. You never know what you are getting into.

I just think it's important that people who actually need to take antidepressants don't go in thinking that they will make you high, where "high" means the same "high" that drug abusers go for. To the contrary, many depressed patients find themselves frustrated with antidepressants because they usually take weeks to even begin working.

Antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications are commonly prescribed to be used together. The reason for this comes from the psychological and neuro-chemical relationships found between depression and anxiety.

I have also heard of the "skittles parties" kids hold, and I can think of few things more stupid or dangerous. I just have to assume that they have some idea of the things they're stealing, at least in the sense that they're not going to be taking a collection of prescription-grade laxatives, birth control pills and so on. Their jackpot is in pain killers and tranquilizers. This does not discount the possibility that antidepressants have been abused by people who were hoping to get high or who will layer things on top of it to see what it might be able to do for them. There are people who will take anything, paint cans and glue included.

Even people within the ecstasy communities know how dangerous ecstasy is. To them, however, the scariest possibility is that their pills have been made with poisons. That actually happens. I know that there are organizations out there that attend ecstasy based raves and will test pills for free. It's certainly a controversial move to say the least. As far as I'm concerned, ecstasy gets a high spot on the most dangerous drugs list.

Sounds to me like someone Nichole loves is addicted to drugs and she wants to try them to try to understand why they won't stop.. what's the deal? Don't they love her enough to stop? That's the drug trap nichole, don't fall for it, its not smart to try drugs for ANY reason even if you are trying to convince yourself if is for someone else's benefit.

Ok, I don't even remember my post, but I do say that I wanted to talk to her privately. My post was removed for a request to talk through messages on this site. I appologize for that. I have made some mistakes in my life and I wanted to share them with her and maybe make her change her mind. I just didn't want people judging me.

Thanks everyone & Sorry!

Adam-89, no big deal, we all like sharing here because it may help someone else somewhere the line. Someone just checking in and reading posts, and saying, hay, that's great. etc.

You have to be a pretty big person to want to share experiences, good and bad.

Yea that is true. I usually do share my experiences but I just feel embarrassed about my past mistakes. So, I hope she doesn't have to learn any hard mistakes. She hasn't returned to this post for a long time now. I figured someone would have closed this by now.

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Originally Posted by adam_89

yea that is true. I usually do share my experiences but i just feel embarrassed about my past mistakes. So, I hope she doesn't have to learn any hard mistakes. She hasn't returned to this post for a long time now. i figured someone would have closed this by now.

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This thread was only started three days ago. *wink

I hope you do share your opinion.