We all know about God. But who exactly is he? How did he come about? Surely he must have had a beginning of his own. He must have started life, some how, like all "living" things. All the talk about his origin being a mystery is not good enough. Does anyone have an answer?

Tikum

Look in the mirror.

Honestly, What I have been taught and believe is that God has always been, and always will be. That he has always existed.

About your question, it is an endless question according to some no one can answer. God created us, God exists. Did anybody create God and so forth. It is a question that I believe the above answered it best.

He has always existed. Always was. Always will be. Is this hard to grasp? There are many mysteries and I do believe that all these questions we have will be answered one day or is already answered in God's word.

Joe

The classical answer is that of God existing independent of Time. Without the linear progression of time, discussing a beginning and end are meaningless... it would be like discussing the depth of a square, or the width of a line. Such terms are simply irrelevant to the object being discussed.

Edit to add: It's also worth noting that no matter what you believe, something had to come from nowhere at some point. It's neither more nor less logical to ascribe that to a deity or the universe.

Now, if you want the origins of the concept of god, that's a whole other kettle of fish.

I know the answer, but telling it doesn't help. Knowing and believing are two very different things, and even knowingthe answer, I can't really believe it myself. I don't think any human being is supposed to know.

The "God existing independent of time" hypothesis is a bit of a cop-out though, since you could just as easily say the universe has always existed.

I agree with that God always was. Who alone is immortal (1Tim6:16) Now God is spirit, so maybe in the Supernatural Spiritual realm this can be fathomed: That God may have even created himself.

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All the talk about his origin being a mystery is not good enough. Does anyone have an answer?

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Those who know don't say. Those who say don't know.

It is funny that you question God's beginnnings. You are here, is that not a miracle too? God always existed. I am just a little person made by the Divine One. I am too small to question it. I just believe and have faith in Him and His goodness. My blessed life is the fruits of my faith and love for Him and His ways.

We learn by asking questions.

You are right Jesus helper. I am just so far past that question at this point in my life... too much comfirmation is suppose. I see my errror when you post it that way. Good one. Blessings to you and yours.

Hmmm.. too much belief, not enough fact.

Maybe that is your opinion, but for me it is fact. Too much belief to you maybe, but we all look at things differently. Do we not.

Joe

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Originally Posted by Tikum

We all know about God. But who exactly is he? How did he come about? Surely he must have had a beginning of his own. He must have started life, some how, like all "living" things. All the talk about his origin being a mystery is not good enough. Does anyone have an answer?

Tikum

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Why do you want to know? More importantly why ask us mere mortals? Why not ask the Creator Herself?

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Hmmm.. too much belief, not enough fact.

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Sometimes even fact is relative.

Psalm 90:2 says: “Even from time indefinite to time indefinite [or, forever] you are God.” No one else told me this except JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. If you want to find out more you can order the book WHAT DOES THE BIBLE REALLY TEACH? Not just what everyone else thinks.

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Originally Posted by Tikum

We all know about God. But who exactly is he? How did he come about? Surely he must have had a beginning of his own. He must have started life, some how, like all "living" things. All the talk about his origin being a mystery is not good enough. Does anyone have an answer?

Tikum

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Hit Tikum,

The idea of GodS has been with humans as long as humans have been around. We are talking Western philosophy/theology when we talk about God as an external being who exists as a singular entity.

Plato and Aristotle explained the concept of God using logical arguments.

Plato's arguments are somewhat different to Aristotle. Aristotle puts forward a first cause argument while Plato's idea of God is a bit obscure.

Aristotle had a big influence on later Christian philosophers, especially the idea of first cause. Basically, Aristotle argued that everything in the universe is subject to movement. One thing moving is always caused by something else moving.

On this bases if we trace motion back far enough we must ultimately get to a first cause. In other words, something or someone must have ultimately been responsible for the movement we witness today. Aristotle reasoned that this the first movement must have been caused by an 'unmoved mover'. In other words, someone or something which is not subject to the laws of movement itself.

To try and answer your question God can't have a beginning of his own.
As Aristotle would probably say, God is a non beginning 'beginninger'

Regards

Tut