Hello,

I am from Goa residing at Margao. I have applied at the Portuguese Consulate, Goa and am waiting for my Identification Process or Auto de declaracao. It's been 2 1/2 yrs. After applying. I have recd. Letters from Conservatoria dos Registos Centrais, Lisboa but the persons in the Consulate say that they have not got similar letters addressed by the Conservatoria to them. As such, they cannot help me.

Can anyone help me in this regard?

Nelson

I submitted my papers for acquiring Portuguese nationality 4 yrs ago in 2000.
My process was dragged on as usual by lisbon authorities since 6 yrs

In 2005 I received my identification process appt date wherein was asked to get an original document issued to my parents during Portuguese era ,which is impossible me as my parents disposed all papers 40 yrs old

I went to the consulate to submit my papers with notary attested copy of my mothers segundrau or 12 th standard certificate and attached copy of portuguese boletim wherein her name appeared,

TO MY UTTER SHOCK THEY BLUNTLY REFUSED MY APPLICATION because I was born after 1961 ,and asked me to get a original document which i.e.@50 yrs old
However that day candidates born before 1961 were allowed to submit their papers with xerox copies of original portugal documents(not the original)

I am fed up of this process now and have decided it is only fraud racket .
They take in 10,000 applications/yr and have total 2 lakh cases pending with them
However they process only a handful /yr and that too if you are lucky to have chosen the " right lawyer" (who grease the portugal authorities with lucrative sums of euros)compared to the myriad of cheats around the (in)famous one being mr orlando soares (lisboa)originally from benaulim.

The many others born after 1961 and are in same situation as me have approached the ministers and will complain to indian parliament it seems

I have lost 9 precious yrs of my life with this process ,I stayed in Goa to do the pasprt and now I am 36 with no grt professional prospects.
I want to start legal proceedings against the consulate so that they do not destroy innocent peoples career and peace of mind henceforth.
So please can you give me advice if this is legal or illegal what the portuguese consulate has done

Mr Orlando soares has cheated plenty&plenty of goans,he worked for cases only who are from "rich upper class" and duped the middle and lower classes.Wherever I go I hear goan people cursing him and I know it will come back to him oneday someday

He is the cause of my miserable state today.My life is destroyed because of this passport,I culd have gone to gulf 6 yrs ago but went behind this joke called portuguese passport and my age is up now.
He cheated 3 of my family members and charged exobirant fees and disappeared conveniently.He was paid to handle their entire case but only registered my parents marriage that too with spelling mistakes ( which dragged my process for 1 extra year).
Had he to register my parents birth I wuld have got my passport in 11/2 year and this rule of "old document"wuld not be applicable to me

Things are very difficult now since past 2 months,they ask for boletim nascimento/BI/Portugese passport issued during portuguese times(which is almost impossible) or you are sent back.This is for new and old applicants.

This passport is elusive and an enigma now unless you have an old portuguese document and also no one knows what else suprises the lisbon authorities are going to spring up on us retrospectively.
Many people are fed up and given up on it.Parents had done their boletim nascimento and casamento for their children sake, but now they are asking for boletims issued during portuguese times ,they are refusing xerox copies from archives.So a family can have only one original copy so only one child can apply... this is a fraud racket simple as that.

In short they accepted lakhs of applications and fees and when the time came to grant passports they shut their gates... they call indians cheats and liars don't they

Indians cheat because we are hungry... but why are they cheating us,even though they are well fed

I rest my case with the kind God above and St Francis Xavier who keeps a watch on Goa... he will give us hope and strength to get through life

I submitted my papers for acquiring Portuguese nationality 4 yrs ago in 2000.
My process was dragged on as usual by lisbon authorities since 6 yrs

In 2005 I received my identification process appt date wherein was asked to get an original document issued to my parents during Portuguese era ,which is impossible me as my parents disposed all papers 40 yrs old

I went to the consulate to submit my papers with notary attested copy of my mothers segundrau or 12 th standard certificate and attached copy of portuguese boletim wherein her name appeared,

TO MY UTTER SHOCK THEY BLUNTLY REFUSED MY APPLICATION because I was born after 1961 ,and asked me to get a original document which i.e.@50 yrs old,not xerox copy.

After massive document hunt operation I went up to the p. consulate in Goa to tell them about the news of my failure to dig out portuguese document and advice about what was going to happen about my 6 year process.

The consular staff advised me -
1)If I do not get an old document my process is over... ie fullstop
2)I was given manual instructions by consular staff how to go to various government offices and pick pocket the old documents which are stacked there
3)They gave me a glance at the old documents submitted at the consulate,needless to say 90% of which were "robbed" by desperate goan people to submit to the Portuguese consulate

C'mom isn't enough,enough.

I have personally seen people queing up at ministers residence now,I do not know how long this old document rule will last but I feel either they put a stop to this bogus racket or remove this rule at least for the old applicants who are repenting for having applied.

All I know is people are very enraged ,and one cannot do this neocolonialism in a free democratic country anymore,it does not work out this way anymore in India.
There are 101 places to go if not portugal or europe,and you simply cannot fool people like this.I wuld advice lisbon not to go that way(sponging 3rd wrld countries)seeing the general feeling of hatred and contempt towards the potuguese consulate in Goa in present circumstances which I feel is justified.

Nobody can help. Only God can. Consulate in Goa is taking everybody for a ride to Portugal, before they close down in Goa.

All of you are stupid ,ignorant and obviously un educated goans {i am a goan by the way} by the way you have all written these letters.orlando soares does not issue portuguese nationality he is just a lawyer ,and by the way the term 'portuguese passport' is incorrect you ignorant people.it is called portuguese nationality.the passport is just a travel document.get some sense!! the portuguese authorities are doing a favour by still giving you the right to their nationality.

Dear All,

Yes, this Portuguese stuff in India is a real pain and loose a lot of time and money over it. However, I should say I am very lucky as I am applying for the Portuguese Nationality here in Qatar.

I have direct dealing with Lisbon and there seems to be no such thing as "Get an old original document".

What you need to do is Apostille your Parent's certificate in New Delhi and commence the process. If you are in the Gulf, all certificates issued in the Gulf must be attested by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and sent to the Portuguese Counsulate in Riyadh to legalise them.

The process is lengthy, but hey, I am in it and so far I can see my wish a reality.

Anthony

Well am still waiting for any answer to my questions you village goans{i am a proud goan by the way}who holds poruguese citizenship not for economic reasons but because I am proud to be a portuguese goan!! you silly people go to people like bruno and travco who are according to me the biggest cheats.and term portuguese passport is wrong it is called portuguese citizenship.the passport is just a travel document.get some sense again.

Hi Filomena,

I am a Goan too, I very much agree with you about that Orlandao Soares is just a attorney.
Very True, In fact I have been trying to contact him but unfortunately, it has been of no avail.
Hey for you have his contact info... Could you please provide it to me

Hi to all,my name is jay10, I am from daman, I came to this site for searching some solution in this related subject, well I found here all goan, who are suffering from this lengthy process of gaining Portugal nationality, as I am doing consulting in this subject from last some years I would like to draw yr attention in this relate, but first I would like to tell you some fact about this masses or some misunderstanding by you people, like about the process some says nationality process, citizenship process,portuguese passport or what ever.
First thing I like to clear is, the process you are doing in consulate of goa or in conservatoria dos registos centrais lisboa is called process de transcricao de nascimento e casamento that means transcription of birth and marriage,
So in our way you can say to renew the record of birth and marriage.
I can explain you in detail but lack of time.
Further I found many goan are talking of some particular advocate, here I want to tell them that there are plenty of advocate in portugal who do this consulting work and they charge about 300 euro per file till the end,

Some of them are james fernandes, ana paula, ana cristina, clara f, clara domingues, linda maria etc etc. I hv done work with all this advocate and they are very good in their work.

I also found that people from goa have lack of knowledge in this regards,and some who have is misguiding other or showing their arrogance. Any way if you people like to hv my advice you can mail me to [email protected]

I also let you know that I am not a professionally consultant ,but I charge for my service if needed.

Hi,
Can anyone tell me about the 'atribuição da nacionalidade'. How long does this take

Hi ken 478, unfortunately orlando soares passed away a few days back.I read it on the online herald

If jetinternational and tracaco are cheats. Where can we find clear information about the process?

:phi... everyone.. first of all I read all the thoughs from the people og goa and daman, but in fact same like you all few years back I used to read all this FAQ que... and answers but now I have read most of the law book related to portuguese nationality.. or transcription of births and marriages.. or about the ractification... so read carefully if anyone has anykind of questions just ask me... I will guide you to solve your problem... for any f this questions send me a mail on [email protected]..

ANS: OK... dont ask me who I am... but if you have any querry ask me without any hasitation.. mail me on [email protected] going to get better guideline than jesito and travaco... believe me...