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fredg · Jul 4, 2005, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by thebriggsdude

can only happen if it all gets fried, simple as that......the possibility of them loosing it while changing or upgrading, is zero.

Hi,
I do know of several instances where this has actually happed with Yahoo Email. The chances are not zero that it will happen. The chances are more like "slim"; but it has happened!
It has also happened with Groups, before Yahoo changed it to Clubs instead. Ask anyone in the Crafts groups, who also lost email in other email addresses at Yahoo, not associated with any groups.
fredg

psi42 · Jul 4, 2005, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by curious_nic

hi there wel im glad im not the only one as from the 2ndmay i also have been hacked and like yourself i cannot getin even with my password etc ive contacted yahoo several times (about 90and im none the wiser my prob is my husband has ben getting messages via yahoo messenger which contain porn links! my worry is who has the id now as ive a yahoo photo album with mny kids pics in yahoo have been told this but to close my account and delete my id i need to be sighnd in (a bit impossable when uve been hacked and your password changed ,,,any help would be verry gratefull of how to get back my id or close it so my yahoo photos etc all get removed ,
many thanks
nicola(worried mother)

Okay. You need to SLOW DOWN.

It is highly unlikely someone broke into yahoo's systems just to grab your password. They probably got it some other way.

What you need to do is contact Yahoo and tell them what happened. As long as you are _reasonable_, they can help you.

No offense, but if you're sending them e-mails that look like your post, they probably think that they are spam. You need to use proper punctuation and employ a spell checker. Proofread. It will help a lot.

Yahoo will help you out. Ignoring this kind of thing would be very bad PR for them...

NeedKarma · Jul 5, 2005, 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by fredg

Hi,
I do know of several instances where this has actually happed with Yahoo Email. The chances are not zero that it will happen. The chances are more like "slim"; but it has happened!!
It has also happened with Groups, before Yahoo changed it to Clubs instead. Ask anyone in the Crafts groups, who also lost email in other email addresses at Yahoo, not associated with any groups.
fredg

I've been using Yahoo Mail since the beginning and have never heard of an upgrade losing anyone's mail. And they are still called Groups, where does "Clubs" come form?

LTheobald · Jul 5, 2005, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by fredg

Hi,
I do know of several instances where this has actually happed with Yahoo Email. The chances are not zero that it will happen. The chances are more like "slim"; but it has happened!!
It has also happened with Groups, before Yahoo changed it to Clubs instead. Ask anyone in the Crafts groups, who also lost email in other email addresses at Yahoo, not associated with any groups.
fredg

Fredg, might be an idea to back this up with some proof. A lot of the time, it's just speculation. This statement is bound to get a lot of people worried.

ScottGem · Jul 5, 2005, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by LTheobald

Fredg, might be an idea to back this up with some proof. A lot of the time, it's just speculation. This statement is bound to get a lot of people worried.

LT,

Don't hold your breath. Fred rarely, if ever, backs up what he says with proof. Most of the time its because he has no proof. He tends to make things up to make him sound more knowledgeable, but when challenged to show proof, he clams up.

I will repeat what I have said before. There is no way a company like Yahoo is going to lose stored mail in a system upgrade. There are just too many controls in place for that to happen.

ScottGem · Jul 5, 2005, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by lolita82

I'd LOVE to be 100% sure on this!!

My first instinct was that someone tried to use an exploit ment for Yahoo! to get my Hotmail password (THAT was a spazz)...what do you guys think??

You can be 200% sure of this. No reputable firm that I have ever encountered will ask you to verify your account information except during the login process. So any such request is a scam.

thebriggsdude · Jul 5, 2005, 09:07 AM

Yeah... that really makes them believe you when you say Yahoo changed it from "groups" to "clubs". fredg, then tell us, why do they still call them groups? And chances are more like none to lose information, emails, etc... the possibility for it is slim to none? More like none since they have backups.

crazygirl · Jul 14, 2005, 05:50 PM

It's a program that you can get at many hacker sites. Even one that Yahoo has put up themselves called yah-hell! It makes you sound like a part of yahoos administration it is keylogged usually but not always if you open it or type anything they will have your pass, ip etc anything really and its not that hard to disable firewalls if you have them or even virus protection trust me I know! So when you get something like that your best bet would be is to go to command prompt if its through messenger and type in echo press enter and leave the window open! This little trick acts like a mirror so anything they try to do it reflects off you and goes straight back to them!

LTheobald · Jul 15, 2005, 09:47 AM

Can we get this thread locked to stop hacking discussions please?

thebriggsdude · Jul 15, 2005, 09:01 PM

Better to have it deleted... so no one will get any ideas.

SneakyOne · Nov 9, 2005, 04:49 PM

Some things to remember:
1. Never give out YOUR password to anyone.
2. There is no such thing at a "bot" that will return a password to you.
3. Never visit password websites that end in .da.ru, tk, or other odd extensions.
4. To find a good service to help you do a Google search on "needapassword" with NO spaces.
5. Never post your email address or the email of the password you are wanting on a message board.

Good luck.

ScottGem · Nov 9, 2005, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by SneakyOne

4. To find a good service to help you do a google search on "xxxxxxxxxxxxx" with NO spaces.

No "good" service will give you the password for an e-mail account. The only way to get a forgotten password is to contact the service providing the mailbox.

This "advice" will be reported and removed.

oops · Nov 13, 2005, 06:53 PM

First of all Yahoo passwords can be taken in many ways. There are plenty of trojans out which steal Yahoo passwords. There are crackers made all the time which will crack a password to a Yahoo account (especially if it's a simple password, harder passwords are usually safe). There are also a lot of scams such as the email scam mentioned above or websites which look exactly like a Yahoo website and asks you to login. All of these will give someone access to all services available from Yahoo with your name (chat, Yahoo messenger, email, Yahoo 360, etc... ). Here is a decription of one and details on how to protect yourself from these types of fake logins. http://oopsweb.net/htmlfiles/fakelogin.htm

justinsayne · Dec 3, 2005, 07:38 AM

Whoever said Yahoo can't be hacked is fulla crap. Mine was just hacked last night. Fortunatly I have several ways in which to contact all the important friends on my account and now the little freak who hacked me won't be getting any satisfaction from my contact list. The told me and several of my contacts he would return my account if he got flashed.. (yes I spoke to him from another Yahoo account as he was on mine all night.

The only things I had that I'd like to get back from the SOB is my Yahoo groups. I don't know where some of you get off being all self righteous and saying that there is no program that can hack Yahoo when this forum has several people in it who were hacked.. I'm pretty sure those asking for help have been legitemetly hacked if they were out to hack Id's willy nilly they sure as hell wouldn't be posting this forum. If you know how to help them resolve their dilema why won't you help them. Frankly I think the secret needs to not only get out but to get out to Yahoo so they can write blocking programs to stop it from happening.

nymphetamine · Dec 3, 2005, 08:20 AM

Well what if you report to the authorities? Couldn't they track the person doing this? Hackers can be hacked to you know.

justinsayne · Dec 3, 2005, 08:23 AM

Like others I have tried contacting yahell to and because the hacker is smart enough to go into account details and change the info therin it makes it almost impossible or maybe impossible to get back into your own accounts

ScottGem · Dec 4, 2005, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by justinsayne

Whoever said yahoo can't be hacked is fulla crap. Mine was just hacked last night. fortunatly I have several ways in which to contact all the important friends on my account and now the little freak who hacked me wont be getting any satisfaction from my contact list. The told me and several of my contacts he would return my account if he got flashed.. (yes I spoke to him from another yahoo account as he was on mine all night.

The only things I had that I'd like to get back from the SOB is my yahoo groups. I don't know where some of you get off being all self righteous and saying that there is no program that can hack yahoo when this forum has several people in it who were hacked.. I'm pretty sure those asking for help have been legitemetly hacked if they were out to hack Id's willy nilly they sure as hell wouldn't be posting this forum. If you know how to help them resolve their dilema why won't you help them. frankly I think the secret needs to not only get out but to get out to yahoo so they can write blocking programs to stop it from happening.

The problem here is your understanding of what being "hacked" means. I don't believe that there is a program that someone can use to bypass Yahoo's security and get into someone's account. However, there are other ways for people to gain access to someone's accounts. Keyloggers, social engineering, simply guessing a password, among other methods have and will continue to be used to access a Yahoo account. The point here is that the alleged "hacker" didn't break into your Yahoo account, rather they used some method to trick you into revealing your password to them. Once they have that password, they can gain control of the account, changing password, security questions, personal info, etc.

Bottom line, is you, most likely, contributed to the loss of your Yahoo account.

djstarz · Jan 11, 2006, 11:22 AM

First, the security questions are your birthdate and zip code. Your birthdate can easily be found. In the profile Yahoo asks you to create, it shows your age, and if the hacker can figure out the date (there are only 365 days) or find it somewhere else like if you have a personals account, they have it.

The second piece of information they use is your zip code. Again, they ask you for your city in their profile. I think it may even be there by default. If you live in a smaller city, there may be only one zip code.

The 3rd is your "security" question. Well, if you ask them nicely enough, they'll give you what the question is, and you just supply the answer, so if you put in something like they suggest, the answer could be easily guessed.

The problem is that once they get in they are allowed to change your security information and Yahoo will not look back in the records to see what it was before the problem. They won't even look back at the original information. So, once you have been hacked no matter how it has been done, Yahoo refuses to work with you to get it back, even though it is they themselves that allow your security information to be changed.

A persistent hacker and one with a little intelligence can get your Yahoo account easily.

The worst part is this is tied to everything. It is tied to any service you use on Yahoo, paid and unpaid.

Curlyben · Jan 11, 2006, 12:41 PM

djstarz, that's NOT "hacking" that's just a simple bit of Social Engineering.

justinsayne · Jan 29, 2006, 10:20 AM

[QUOTE=djstarz]... So, once you have been hacked no matter how it has been done, Yahoo refuses to work with you to get it back, even though it is they themselves that allow your security information to be changed...

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Actually Yahoo did help me after over a month of emailing back and forth. I simply told them of several groups I had created in the Yahoo groups that were innaccessible except by permission and 2 of the groups had at the time of my being hacked into, no members.

Unfortunately the dumbass hacked many of my friends and once in deleted their accounts.. Made me look bad since he was such an to them when he had control of my account.