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OhSweetJesus · Oct 5, 2005, 09:05 AM

:confused: Please tell me if someone simply states what they believe how is that forcing your beliefs?

J_9 · May 13, 2007, 12:02 PM

When you argue with someone over and over and continuously think your way is the one and only right way, you are trying to force people to believe your way is the only way.

That is not right. I have my beliefs, which I choose to keep to myself, but if you knew them you would bash me and my beliefs like you have begun to do to so many here already.

Just because I may choose to believe differently than you does not make what I believe in wrong.

A good debate is nice once in a while, but telling people that your way is the only way is totally unacceptable and rude.

I was raised to keep my religion and my politics to myself, and it has worked very well for me.

OhSweetJesus · May 13, 2007, 12:07 PM

I am hardly bashing nor am I arguing with anyone.. you have taken things way out of context. People can believe what ever that want.. but if it isn't about Jesus it isn't right... point blank The bible is right.. maybe I actually know what I believe maybe that is my problem. Oh well I say my peace and that is that. I know the truth and I know I am not alone.

J_9 · May 13, 2007, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by OhSweetJesus

but if it isnt about Jesus it isnt right... point blank The bible is right..

My point EXACTLY!!

So Judiasm is not right because they do not follow the Bible?

They are wrong for being born Jewish?

Muslums are wrong because they believe in the Kuran?

Are they wrong for being born Muslum?

I recommend you take a course in World Religions. It would certainly open your eyes to the world at large.

incognito · May 13, 2007, 12:14 PM

Well your first point was right on, you are NOT "forcing your beliefs" when you say what they are.

Your second post is contradictory, "people can believe what ever [they] want... but if it isn't about Jesus it isn't right... point blank The bible is right."
You say that you are tolerant of other people's beliefs and opinions but then you say if it isn't what YOU personally believe in, Jesus, then that makes their beliefs null and void.

Fr_Chuck · May 13, 2007, 12:15 PM

Please understand, you are coming here as a new member and I have received more complaints on you than I have spammers and people posting obscene material because of your attitude and your constant use of the "disagree" buttom, You should state your beleifs, perhaps using bible verses, but again, others can use bible verses to show their point of view. Remember all christian beliefs are based off a bible verse or teaching, even those that are opposite

No one is asking you to change your view points, only respect those that have other beliefs, since they are also all based on the bible. And they are just as sure as you are that they are right and you are wrong.

So you know the truth, so does the other members who have a different idea, they know that their teaching is also the truth, you need to come to grasp with that, if you study comparison religion you will find that many opposite beliefs are all bible based

So if you are truly a Christian, you will understand that Jesus did not go in and put down anyone for their belief, he merely lived and expressed his teachings,

We want you to be a happy part of our family ( as disfuntional as it is) and we can share beleifs, some will learn from you, and you may well learn some other bibie teachings you were not aware of. No one stops learning.

J_9 · May 13, 2007, 12:17 PM

Please let us all remember that the Bible is open for interpretation. What one may see out of a particular verse, someone else may see and understand something completely and entirely different.

That does not make one person right and the other wrong, it just means that we all see things differently.

OhSweetJesus · May 13, 2007, 12:25 PM

What I say is how I feel I never said any one people or any one religion. If you have a problem with Jesus that's you. I never pointed any fingers at anyone. I said that I (key word) Believe in Jesus and I know what he is all about. Yes he is the only way... if you can't or won't accept that its your problem. I don't appreciate being told that I am bashing I am absolutely not! I am telling what I know and believe to be the truth if you can't accept it fine! Don't tell me I am bashing or forcing anyone to believe anything. You can't force anyone to do anything.. I mean really get a grip.

OhSweetJesus · May 13, 2007, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

Please understand, you are comming here as a new member and I have recieved more complaints on you than I have spammers and people posting obscene material because of your attitude and your constant use of the "disagree" buttom, You should state your beleifs, perhaps using bible verses, but again, others can use bible verses to show thier point of view. Remember all christian beliefs are based off of a bible verse or teaching, even those that are opposite

No one is asking you to change your view points, only respect those that have other beliefs, since they are also all based on the bible. And they are just as sure as you are that they are right and you are wrong.

so you know the truth, so does the other members who have a different idea, they know that their teaching is also the truth, you need to come to grasp with that, if you study comparison religion you will find that many opposite beliefs are all bible based

So if you are truly a Christian, you will understand that Jesus did not go in and put down anyone for thier beleif, he merely lived and expressed his teachings,

We want you to be a happy part of our family ( as disfuntional as it is) and we can share beleifs, some will learn from you, and you may well learn some other bibie teachings you were not aware of. No one stops learning.

You need to get a grip.

J_9 · May 13, 2007, 12:28 PM

So you are saying that any religion except your is not the way? I did not put those words in your mouth you said it. Here, I'll show you:

he is the only way

Girl, take a world religion class, you need to know that there are others who are just as passionate about their beliefs as you are, but they believe differently than you do.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!!

Curlyben · May 13, 2007, 12:30 PM

Right then, Caresse.
Listen up and listen good !

With an attitude like that you are highly unlikely to last long at this site.
TOLERANCE of others beliefs and ideals is something that AMHD prides itself on.

Now you are free to express your own beliefs in any way you want, but when you start to belittle other members because they disagree with you, then you have over stepped the line.

This type of activity WILL cease NOW.

This is your FINAL WARNING on this subject.
Action will follow if you continue posting in this fashion and retribution will be swift.

OhSweetJesus · May 13, 2007, 12:32 PM

I haven't belittled anyone

Curlyben · May 13, 2007, 12:34 PM

FYI

Originally Posted by belittle

1. To represent or speak of as contemptibly small or unimportant; disparage: a person who belittled our efforts to do the job right.
2. To cause to seem less than another or little: The size of the office tower belittles the surrounding buildings. See Synonyms at decry.

Enough said

NeedKarma · May 13, 2007, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by OhSweetJesus

You need to get a grip.

Another good christian treating people with respect.

Not.

Originally Posted by OhSweetJesus

So now are you going to tell me the bible is wrong?

It sometimes is.

OhSweetJesus · May 13, 2007, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Another good christian treating people with respect.

Not.

It sometimes is.

SHow me one time that it is wrong..

Curlyben · May 13, 2007, 12:45 PM

Really go back to your post #9 where you DISRESPECT Fr_Chuck.
Not only one of the sites most senior members, but a man of the cloth!

Also The Bible is one of the most well read works of Fiction there is.
The stories may have been based on fact at one time but after generations of being retold, by word of mouth, they have lost that fact and become merely a story.

OhSweetJesus · May 13, 2007, 12:50 PM

A man of the cloth? He does need to get a grip... He kept on having an issue with what I believe... I don't agree with his sugar coating and him thinking he knows everything that is not so not saying I know everything... nor will I be told I am bashing so far from the truth. If I want to express what I know and believe to be the truth he should allow me that right. Like I said I am not bashing belittling or forcing anything on anyone.. I say what I know and believe with authority becaue I know Jesus is real in my life. I will share what I have experienced with anyone...

Curlyben · May 13, 2007, 01:07 PM

Jesus may be "real" in your life but this doesn't give you the "right" to tell others that they are wrong for believing anything else.
Point in fact is your post, quoted by J_9, #3.

OhSweetJesus · May 13, 2007, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Curlyben

Jesus may be "real" in your life but this doesn't give you the "right" to tell others that they are wrong for believing anything else.
Point in fact is your post, quoted by J_9, #3.

Yea sure... who gives you the right to tell me anything.

Curlyben · May 13, 2007, 01:24 PM

Hmm I wonder.
Could it be because that I am an ADMINISTRATOR of this site and as such charged with up holding the Rules and ensuring the smooth operation of said site?
Who would be the site OWNER !

You are showing a serious amount of negative attitude for someone so young.