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Stony,
I'm on the same boat so please don't rock it. Peace and kindness, Fred (arcura) |
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 Originally Posted by arcura
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Now that the question has been answered:
1) It was Mary Magdelene who had the 7 demons 2) The story of Lucifer's crowd falling from heaven Now, why do we care about demons? Demons/ evil spirits are wimps! Anyone with an ounce of faith can discern. I don't entertain or have demons entertain me. As a Christian, we're supposed to contemplate higher and holier things. Philippians 4:8- Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable- if anything is excellent and praiseworthy- think about such things. Am I right or am I left?! ;) :rolleyes: :D |
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Very good advice!
I think it applies even more also to my post concerning Cain. I will see if I can delete it. |
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Starman,
I'll venture an estimation that our present day's' troubles ares 50/50. Satan's and man's doing. Peace and kindness, Fred |
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Originally Posted by arcura
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That's maybe man listening and following through on Satan's lies. That may be your 50% from man doings. The evil one (remember he can't read your mind & is not omnipresent, so enlists evil spirits).
Satan can pull man in through TEMPTATION. Through a person's SOUL(mind, will, emotions) Demon possession has to do with the spirit( which is rare anyway) When I person ponders a sin like stealing or pornography or lust, If those thoughts are not dismissed & are carried through by dwelling more in the thought, and giving way to an action & a sin, well, then there you go - that person has done Satan's work. If there is another( say 50%) doings going on by Satan in general. Well, it's something that God allows (never causes) Free will of man causes consequences of sin in peoples life. EX)- A couple living together and not being married may struggle much more than if they were married. God's Plan is that they be married. If they don't have that obedience, they might not get the blessings intended for them, and their life may have more strife until they do. I'm not saying they will have tragedy. But a lot of smaller problems weighing them down. I'm not sure about percentages. But I know we are all under the sway of the evil one. JOHN 16:8-11 (THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT) When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me; in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned. Hallelujah! :rolleyes: |
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Unfortunately I find there are more people are under a demons influence than not. Who else better to corrupt than a child of god. Isn't that the plan to draw as many people as possible away from the kingdom. If we don't study and learn how the legions work, how do we know when were playing into there trap? They never knock on our door showing there true intentions, they are very intelligent and can read a persons mind in a blink of an eye. No one is perfect we all have strengths and weakness that we work to overcome, its in this meantime our cracks are open to attack.
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Originally Posted by rickj
M Originally Posted by Homecoming
How do you know who is and who isn't under the thrall of demonic powers? Is it a gut feeling, a suspicion, a vision, a direct revelation? What? What mechanism do you employ? Is is occultism? M:)RGANITE |
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As a Born- again Christian ONE discerns by the Holy Spirit any trap the enemy tries to ensnare them in. One doesn't need to learn much more about demons. If you know a little, you know all that's needed. Knowing the things of God is what's important. Remember the POSITIVE? The Power of Positive Thinking - the book?
Would you rather look at the dirty street or look at a perfect moon? It's so elementary. Why overload the circuits? Why do you think children are happy? B/C they don't think about such crap! :eek: |
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Originally Posted by 31pumpkin
You still don't say how except to say that YOU KNOW when YOU KNOW, which is very subjective and the world is full of those who were SURE they were tuned in to the Holy Spirit when they charged others with being demon-possessed, but who got it badly wrong. I trust that sensible people will see the danger of people walking about denouncing people for demon-possession or witchcraft on nothing more than a hunch. You will agree that denouncing people as demon-possessed is of a different order than looking at scenery. As far as I can see in the scriptures, the Holy Spirit has no denunciatory function. According to Jesus, it testifies of him, it teaches all truth, it brings his teachings to the remembrance of Christians who have already obtained them, and it leads them in the way of life. The hijacking of the function of the Hoy Spirit by those poor souls whose minds are demon-oriented - that is, they determine (without the inspiration of Heaven) that anything or anyone that is new or different, is bound to be demon infested because it MUST be. This is NOT a Christian occupation, and it does say something rather disturbing about this kind of 'Christian.' What is says is that their faith is so shallw and frail that it is constantlym under threat by demons more powerful than their God. If it were not so, they would not fear what the demons could do, but trust in God to be sufficiently powerful to be able to overthrow all evil, and they would also be able to trust God when he says that he will protect them against their enemies from all sources. When someone reaches this mature phase of faith, their lives are no longer lived in the fear of dark forces that they fear could engulf them at any moment, and they flourish in the divine light that God sheds on the faithful who know and trust him. The business of a Christian is not to live his life dominated by thoughts of evil, but to be busy doing good, and enjoying the blessings that the God of heaven pours out on them according to his promises, rather than sitting every moment in fear of being overwhelmed by dark forces over which they feel they have no control. Those whom live such fearful lives do not - cannot - have the spirit of God, because "God hath not given [Christians] a spirit of fear ... " M:)RGANITE |
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Morganite:
I fail to see why you are referring to me in your previous post. Did I say something about being preoccupied by demonic forces? Yes, the Holy Spirit bring into remembramce the teachings of Christ, but it also brings more. The Holy Spirit allows you to hear God's voice for many things. For prayer, for direction, for counseling , for healing. For service, for peace. Sorry if that seems too subjective to you but I assure you one is mature in the faith enough to walk in alignment (maybe not always everytime) Alignment meaning an " outer ring" which represents your spirit, a middle ring which is your soul, & an inner ring being the body. When the spirit is 1st (the Holy Spirit btw) One is in touch with the Lord more easily & promptly. When the SOUL is in the outer position, the Lord's voice must filter down through your whole personality, & mostly not hearing Him at all. When I say walking in alignment like this: any time there is negative influence, it is always discerned in the spiritual realm first. That I know is my longest gift (since 7 yrs old) Discerning of spirits. So it may be that different Christians have different revelations in their Spirit. But we know it is still the same Holy Spirit. Just a different experience individually. |
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How come this Satan bloke and his Demons get all the hassle and blame and the Jesus guy and the Desciples are always squeaky clean??
PROPAGANDA!! This whole shebbang could easily be like a quarrel between the USA and anyone who gets in its way - and the only news media in the whole world is Fox News! This "Ole Nick" fellow seems an okay sort of bloke to me - He is blamed for booze - fornication and all manner of so called ills... Well I enjoy a pint and a nice wine with meals and legitimately fathered five kids along the way. Therefore until the Jesus crowd can come up with a better argument than their version of FOX News I reckon they should leave Ole Nick alone. As a devout Atheist I find the whole thing highly amusing and don't believe any of it - but you know us Brits - always supporting the under-dog - fictional or not.:D |
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Jonegy -
You find it all very amusing so that's fine & dandy for you. But you leave yourself vulnerable to evil doings & happenings anyway without God - regardless of what you say now. This Satan & Jesus thing you mentioned is not propaganda. It's the difference between good & evil. Choosing the latter only results in death. Now & later. I'll be praying for you. |
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Originally Posted by Jonegy
I have yet to meet an atheist who does not believe that there are any moral absolutes. Are you the first? M:)RGANITE |
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Originally Posted by Morganite
Moral absolutes: those unchanging ethical truths revealed by God (also known as the moral orders in the Bible). Source So an atheist would indeed not believe in moral absolutes. I also believe there are no moral absolutes so I would be the second person that you haven't met. :) |
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Originally Posted by 31pumpkin
Originally Posted by Morganite
My friend, there are people who are "good" or try to be good - in that they endeavour not to do harm to and consider the feelings of others. These people do not necessarily believe on a god or religion. There are also people who are "bad" or in the religious vernacular "evil" - who do not care whether others are harmed or not - or even have consideration for their feelings. These people are not necessarily devil worshippers - in fact - if you take a look through the history books the vast majority of them professed religion - and mainly christian. Ball in your court I believe. ( See I DO believe SOMETHING ) ;) :D |
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Originally Posted by Jonegy
Fox News? Oh you mean because it has been in the media that Fox News tends to cater to/by Republican / Christian outlooks? I don't even like Fox News. Oh, how shallow! Comparing that with the Bible. One thing I can't stand is an unbeliever that drags all the B.S. they have for not believing in God to the general public. Disgust me not. Your SIN separates you from God. Sin leads to death. If you are not saved from your sins through belief in Jesus Christ, and even worse, you are denying God,. You are in a place where the wrath of the Lord could come down on your head at any time. And that's just for spreading your disbelief. If you don't care & want to get by by your own pride & confidence - DO IT. What does darkness have in common with the light? What do unbelievers have in common with believers? The Bible tells us there is nothing, and I am wasting my time because your unwilling to believe. One needs someone to talk to & that someone is Jesus/God. People can help only so much. The void is filled by God. I don't even go to Church regularly. But I always keep in touch with the Lord by reading the Bible and through Christian programs & missionary support. You're correct - I'm no angel. But I have 2 that protect me. You don't get to have those revelations if you don't believe! :cool: |
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Originally Posted by 31pumpkin
Just one little question -- Where do you get the idea that I'm spreading my beliefs?? |
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I'm so glad I haven't seen in person anyone who wasn't Christian . In years!
Wow this is a yawn. Same to you too N.K. |
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