[jlisenbe]

The new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, is under attack for not pushing his daughter down the path of sexual whoredom. He had the temerity, a number of years ago, to attend a "purity ball" with her. It's a formal event, meant to be enjoyable, in which the daughter agrees to be abstinent until she is married, thus denying the feds the opportunity to have one more single mom on the welfare rolls. This is what ABC had to say about what is to them a HIGHLY controversial event.

ABC News shared a video of House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., with his daughter at a Christian "purity ball," calling it a "controversial formal dance event."

"The German news segment documented Johnson and his family preparing for and then attending a purity ball, a controversial formal dance event, popular among some conservative Christians, that gained notoriety in the early 2000s," the outlet wrote.
A purity ball, which usually features a father and daughter dance and encourages sexual abstinence before marriage, is a family-centered event.
ABC also described purity balls as a subject of intense debate within Christian circles. "Since growing in popularity in the 1990s and early 2000s," the outlet wrote, "purity balls and purity pledges have faced increased scrutiny from both inside and outside the Christian community, ranging from criticism that the practice places too much of a burden on young women to accusations that the balls themselves objectify young girls."
ABC continued: "At a typical event, fathers and their teenage daughters dress in formal ball attire for a night that involves dinner and dancing and culminates with the daughter signing a pledge to her father to abstain from dating and to remain sexually abstinent until marriage," ABC wrote.

Rather plainly, ABC News just can't connect with the idea of a young man or woman choosing to wait for sexual activity until after the knot is tied. I imagine they much prefer the Michael LaRosa approach to sex.

[tomder55]

time to revisit this Jill Biden tweet from 2020





Here is a photo from a purity ball

[jlisenbe]

I would think it should be considered to be a good thing for a young woman to value herself.

[Wondergirl]

A purity ball is a bit more complicated than what you think. It culminates with the daughter signing a pledge to her father to abstain from dating and to remain sexually abstinent until marriage.

Read the entire Wikipedia article, Purity Ball, for some interesting insights

[Wondergirl]

I would think it should be considered to be a good thing for a young woman to value herself.

That's not the point of a purity ball.

[jlisenbe]

It is exactly the point.

[Wondergirl]

It is exactly the point.

Nope. Dancing, in particular slow dancing in a darkened room, creates lascivious thoughts in the minds of the dancers who rub up against each other's bodies, especially the front. Dance partners can rub each other's back and butt as they dance and nibble each other's neck and cheek and lips. The cut of the dress the female is wearing stimulates her male partner toward all sorts of moves and activities.

[tomder55]

What ? No drag queens twerking at the ball "? Now that is what is normal ..... right ?

I'm betting Speaker Johnson's name is not on Jeffery Epstein's guest list .

[Wondergirl]

And where are the dad's hands in that photo you posted, tomder? And look at the girl's face, her expression.

[Wondergirl]

What ? No drag queens twerking at the ball "? Now that is what is normal ..... right ?

Nope, no drag queens at a purity ball because only conservative, evangelical Christians hold purity balls.

[tomder55]

yeah he's a real incestuous perv ;no doubt ravishing her from behind .</sarc> Only the perverted mind could find fault with the idea that a father pledges to protect his daughter ;or a young woman pledges to abstain until marriage .

[Wondergirl]

yeah he's a real incestuous perv ;no doubt ravishing her from behind .</sarc> Only the perverted mind could find fault with the idea that a father pledges to protect his daughter ;or a young woman pledges to abstain until marriage .

I grew up in a conservative, evangelical Christian church -- and have stories to tell.

[jlisenbe]

only conservative, evangelical Christians hold purity balls.

And thus you confess your true objection.

Only the perverted mind could find fault with the idea that a father pledges to protect his daughter ;or a young woman pledges to abstain until marriage .

Agree completely. It's one thing for a person to suggest they would not care to have such a ceremony for their daughter, but it's quite another to say that the dad in the pic was basically molesting his daughter. That's way out of bounds.

[Wondergirl]

And thus you confess your true objection.

My "true objection" was stated earlier -- I grew up in a conservative, evangelical Christian church -- and have stories to tell.

For instance,I was not allowed to attend a school dance or dance at a wedding, etc. BECAUSE (I was warned by my parents) --

"Nope. Dancing, in particular slow dancing in a darkened room, creates lascivious thoughts in the minds of the dancers who rub up against each other's bodies, especially the front. Dance partners can rub each other's back and butt as they dance and nibble each other's neck and cheek and lips. The cut of the dress the female is wearing stimulates her male partner toward all sorts of moves and activities."

[jlisenbe]

My "true objection" was stated earlier -- I grew up in a conservative, evangelical Christian church -- and have stories to tell.

For instance,I was not allowed to attend a school dance or dance at a wedding, etc. BECAUSE (I was warned by my parents) --

So? You attended a supposedly conservative church populated, it would seem, by perverts. How does that affect any at all the experiences and motives of the millions of Evangelicals you've never even met? I think parents encouraging young people to reserve sex for marriage is a great idea. Of course I'm reminded as I post this that you lied bigtime about your supposed dating experiences in this church, so I don't know that I take any of your observations too seriously.

"Nope. Dancing, in particular slow dancing in a darkened room, creates lascivious thoughts in the minds of the dancers who rub up against each other's bodies, especially the front. Dance partners can rub each other's back and butt as they dance and nibble each other's neck and cheek and lips. The cut of the dress the female is wearing stimulates her male partner toward all sorts of moves and activities."

That is frequently true. I have no idea what your point is.

[Wondergirl]

So? You attended a supposedly conservative church populated, it would seem, by perverts. How does that affect any at all the experiences and motives of the millions of Evangelicals you've never even met?

I didn't say they were perverts. You did.

Throughout my long life, I've met far more evangelicals than you have.

I think parents encouraging young people to reserve sex for marriage is a great idea.

Yes, it is. But those same parents encourge their daughters not to date and, once married, to be a home-bound wife that produces many children.

Of course I'm reminded as I post this that you lied bigtime about your supposed dating experiences in this church

How so?

That is frequently true. I have no idea what your point is.

The sexual point...or, better, the opportunity to subtly touch and "feel".

[jlisenbe]

I didn't say they were perverts. You did.

Please learn the meaning of, "it would seem".

Throughout my long life, I've met far more evangelicals than you have.

What a ridiculous statement. You have no idea of how many evangelicals I have known.

How so

Are you denying this? I can happily provide the link.

The sexual point...or, better, the "feel".

Slow dancing can be sensual. So?

[Wondergirl]

What a ridiculous statement. You have no idea of how many evangelicals I have known.

I was a PK, a Christian teacher, a church librarian, a member of and eventually the president of the church group of women who managed the church nursery. My entire life has been hanging out with evangelicals.

Slow dancing can be sensual. So?

Doncha know? Sensual before marriage is evil and the path to hell.

[jlisenbe]

I was a PK, a Christian teacher, a church librarian. My entire life has been hanging out with evangelicals.

It's just an absurd statement by you. I probably met more evangelicals in my two years of Bible college than in your lifetime, but even if your statement is true, it means you have, perhaps, met 1% of 1% of 1% of 1% of 1% of all the Evangelicals in the world. So yeah, you have no idea what they think.

Slow dancing can be sensual. So?

Sensual before marriage is evil and the path to hell.

I would not encourage it, but I feel pretty sure you would.

[Wondergirl]

I probably met more evangelicals in my two years of Bible college than in your lifetime

I attended a Christian college for FOUR years.

I would not encourage it, but I feel pretty sure you would.

Dancing, especially slow dancing in a darkened gym, is a tool used by Satan.