[tomder55]

Michigan Supreme court rejected attempts to remove Trump from the ballot . SCOTUS has to intervene or we will have all 50 states making the determination piecemeal . It will be an unacceptably chaotic situation.

[jlisenbe]

Would it be true that SCOTUS cannot intervene without a case being brought to it first? Would that case be the Colorado situation?

[jlisenbe]

Well, here's the case. "Colorado to include Trump on 2024 primary ballot as state GOP appeals to Supreme Court."


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/col...-supreme-court

[tomder55]

SCOTUS will ultimately have to make a ruling . Too many states have made it an issue.

[tomder55]

latest one is from Louisiana

Chalmette woman files lawsuit to keep Donald Trump OFF of the 2024 presidential ballot in Louisiana - the latest in a string of state-level legal actions in response to Jan 6 claims (msn.com)

[jlisenbe]

The interesting thing about Louisiana is that it's a RED state with a possibility of keeping Trump off the ballot.

[tomder55]

Now Maine's Sec of State has unilaterally decided to remove Trump from the primary ballot because she decided that Trump violated the 14th amendment. This is way out of control. SCOTUS must rule on this the first day of January they return from their holiday IMO

Maine Bars Trump From 2024 Primary Ballot, Joining Colorado - The New York Times (nytimes.com)


Both Colorado and Maine have primaries on Super Tuesday March 5 . So there is not a lot of time. Ballots need to be printed pronto .

2024 Presidential Election Calendar - 270toWin

[jlisenbe]

The reality is that they want Trump removed because they don't like him. All of the references to the 14th Amendment is just window dressing. It's as silly as denying Biden a place on the ballot because a state believes he has committed impeachable offenses.

[tomder55]

No blue or swing state will remove Clueless Joe from the ballot . No red state or swing state is going to remove Trump from the ballot . If he wins the red states and the swing states he won in 2016 then it does not matter .

EXCEPT perhaps Maine.

The reason for that is Maine does not do winner takes all electors . They award them proportionately to the popular vote results

2016 Evita got 3 electors and Trump 1 . It takes 270 electors to win. In a close election that divided result could matter .

Either way SCOTUS has to put a stop to this nonsense.

The idiocy of this is mind boggling when you consider that the whole purpose of the 14th amendment was to prevent states from making laws that restricts rights. Now you have states determining who is eligible to run for President ?

They keep on suggesting that Sec 3 of the amendment disqualifies Trump . But Sec 5 says
"the Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article."
It does not say the Colorado Supreme court has the power . It does not say the clown Sec State of Maine has the unilateral power .

Now Congress did pass an insurrection act.
18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

But with all the charges against Trump ;not one charges him with insurrection let alone convicted of it .

One of the dissenting justices, Carlos Samour, said in a lengthy opinion that a lawsuit is not a fair mechanism for determining Trump's eligibility for the ballot because it deprives him of his right to due process, noting that a jury has not convicted him of insurrection.
"Even if we are convinced that a candidate committed horrible acts in the past - dare I say, engaged in insurrection - there must be procedural due process before we can declare that individual disqualified from holding public office," Samour said.

Trump barred from Colorado primary ballot for role in US Capitol attack | Reuters

[jlisenbe]

No red state or swing state is going to remove Trump from the ballot

Not too sure of that when your examples above included Louisiana.

[tomder55]

That is going nowhere . Anyone can file a lawsuit . Who is Ashley Reeb and what is her standing to sue ?

ok She is a Dem so she has no say in who is on the Repub ballot. She is not an elector . The Repub primary is not open .Based on that she has no standing. Not that there isn't a chance some idiot judge or 2 would rule in her favor. But the suit will be struck down.


What she is is a rabid lefty . Her social media posts prove it.

Ash (@DatParishGirl) / X (twitter.com)

BLM / pronoun confusion Her 15 minutes of fame ended 14 minutes after she filed

[jlisenbe]

I don't doubt any of that, but in the current wild, wild west of federal courts, who knows what could happen, at least temporarily.

[tomder55]

The WSJ editorial board opines that Maine's Sec State Shenna Bellows is playing right into Trump's hand.

Ms. Bellows is a former ACLU official, served in the state Senate as a Democrat, and ran for the U.S. Senate against Republican Susan Collins. Her ruling gets her name in the headlines and perhaps will be a boost in her next try for higher office. She has added nothing to the legal merits, though she has reinforced Mr. Trump’s campaign narrative.
Maine is unlikely to matter in the GOP primary, and meantime Ms. Bellows is giving Mr. Trump another chance to tell Iowa and New Hampshire Republicans that Democrats are attempting to steal the 2024 election before the voting begins. Democrats really do want to run against Mr. Trump next year.

Maine Casts Its Ballot for Trump - WSJ

The emperor's Rasputin ;David Axelrod , agrees and warns about the danger of denying Trump a place on the ballot.

Removing Trump from the primary ballot would 'rip the country apart': David Axelrod (nypost.com)

[tomder55]

The Epstein guest list is going to be a struggle.

yes for Bubba and others .

Bill Clinton to be identified as "Doe 36" and named over 50 times in upcoming Epstein doc dump (nypost.com)

[jlisenbe]

I was just about to post that. It's not a done deal yet, but it seems likely. Then the question will become, "Now what?" Of course BC being on the list doesn't make him guilty, but it sure looks bad.

[tomder55]

a lot of 'A listers' are panicking. Perhaps the only one more prominent than Bubba is Prince Randy Andy

[tomder55]

[jlisenbe]

Will be interesting to see how all of the supposedly anti-sexual assault dems react to this. They were all over the place with the non-assault by Kavenaugh. Let's see what they say about BC.

[jlisenbe]

Unsurprisingly, CNN news mentions the Clinton story not at all. They are too busy with a long section about how wonderful the economy will be in 2024. In other words, vote Biden.

[jlisenbe]

Looks like SCOTUS is going to decide about Trump being removed from ballots. Colorado will be the test case.

Supreme Court to decide if Trump banned from Colorado ballot in historic case. The highest court said that the briefs are due by Jan 31.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sup...-historic-case