[tomder55]

2 items in the news illustrate how disastrous the mandates from the Green New Steal aka the Inflation Reduction Act are .

3,882 auto dealers wrote a letter to Clueless Joe begging him to back off of EV mandates

While the goals of the regulations are admirable, they require consumer acceptance to become a reality. With each passing day, it becomes more apparent that this attempted electric vehicle mandate is unrealistic based on current and forecasted customer demand. Already, electric vehicles are stacking up on our lots which is our best indicator of customer demand in the marketplace.

Mr. President, no government agency, no think tank, and no polling firm knows more about the automobile customer than us. We talk to customers every day. As retail automotive dealerships, we are agnostic as to what we sell. Our business is to provide customers with vehicles that meet the needs of their budgets and lifestyles.

Some customers are in the market for electric vehicles, and we are thrilled to sell them. But the majority of customers are simply not ready to make the change.

Voice of the Customer (evvoiceofthecustomer.com)


Adding weight to their concerns is Dem Guv of Connecticut Ned Lamont. The state had plans like California to ban sales of gas vehicles in the state by 2035 .But he faced stiff opposition in the legislature. So he ended the effort.....at least for now.

Gov. Ned Lamont wants 'roadmap' for future gas car sales ban (wtnh.com)



As the dealers noted ......“many people just want to make their own choice about what vehicle is right for them.”

Does this mean the EV movement has run out of gas ?

[jlisenbe]

I imagine the letter to the pres will have but little impact. When the operating principle is, "Make up mind, and then investigate," truthful letters such as the one above don't carry much weight. The only solution is to get the man out of office.

“many people just want to make their own choice about what vehicle is right for them.”

What's incredible is that this even has to be said in the supposed land of the free. In the world of liberal dems, a woman should be free to choose to have her unborn child killed, but not free to choose the kind of car she wants to drive.

[tomder55]

Hertz is getting rid of a third of their EVs .

They have them on the used car market for as little as $20,000

You Can Get a Used Tesla for $20,000 From Hertz. Buyer Beware. (businessinsider.com)

This comes in the wake of customer responses to their EV experience.

Renting a Tesla From Hertz Review: Fun EV but Clunky Process (businessinsider.com)

Hertz sites among other things the cost of EV repairs .

In a Thursday note to clients, Adam Jonas, the head of auto and space research at Morgan Stanley, called the move "another sign that EV expectations need to be reset downward across the market."
Hertz Selling EVs Is a Warning to Electric-Car Owners on Hidden Costs (businessinsider.com)

Hertz will replace the cars with gas powered autos .

Electric vehicles have been hurting Hertz’s financials, executives have said, because, despite costing less to maintain, they have higher damage-repair costs and, also, higher depreciation.
“[C]ollision and damage repairs on an EV can often run about twice that associated with a comparable combustion engine vehicle,” Hertz CEO Stephen Scherr said in a recent analyst call

Hertz is selling 1/3 of its electric cars to buy gas cars instead | CNN Business

Hertz will absorb a $245 million loss because of their green new steal experiment .

Rental giant Hertz dumps EVs, including Teslas, for gas cars | Reuters

[tomder55]

follow the science A study by Norway scientist appears to dispute the idea that human CO2 emissions have a significant impact on the climate

the results imply that the effect of man-made CO2 emissions does not appear to be sufficiently strong to cause systematic changes in the pattern of the temperature fluctuations.

In the last century it has gotten warmer .But it has not gotten historically warmer than previous warming periods .

AND humans have become much more adaptable to weather and climate events .

Bjorn Lomborg on X: "Ever-fewer people die from climate-related disasters — also in 2021 Climate-related deaths have dropped 96-98% over the past century Breathless climate reporting misleads us and panic makes us less likely to tackle climate smartly https://t.co/O1dxcn51cR https://t.co/9O8HVe5Rt4" / X (twitter.com)

Access to affordable energy is one of the big reasons of the results .

And CO2 generation could be beneficial

New study: Carbon dioxide emissions may actually benefit society | Life:Powered (lifepowered.org)

To what extent are temperature levels changing due to greenhouse gas emissions? (ssb.no)

[jlisenbe]

Bjorn Lomborg is a pretty reasonable guy. I've watched some of his videos about alternative energies and they are pretty good. The best line from the X article was, "Breathless climate reporting misleads us and panic makes us less likely to tackle climate smartly." Much of this is about the media getting clicks and pols gaining power over us.

He did get a little on the polly-annish side. "Second, we need to innovate to make green energy cheaper than fossil fuels." Yeah, and while we're at it we can innovate to make personal jetpacks sold in Walmart so we can get around more easily.

[tomder55]

Just don't count on green EVs in an emergency

New 'green' ambulances unusable by paramedics who are too tall or have big feet, NHS trusts reveal after staff voice concerns for drivers' safety | Daily Mail Online

Imagine being transported to the hospital in a clown car.

And it is not just in England . EV ambulances have come to the states

Ambulance Business Goes Electric With Its New Fleet (forbes.com)

Here's why Pueblo AMR recently added an electric ambulance to its fleet (archive.vn)


Pueblo as in the gateway to the Rocky Mountains ;where temperatures can get extreme. Imagine having to wait for the battery to recharge before being transported

Frigid weather saps EV batteries. Here’s how to keep yours running. - The Washington Post

[jlisenbe]

Being green has taken precedence over preserving life.

[tomder55]

I have been calling the alternative energy drive 'the green new steal ' because I call em as I see them. It never occurred to me that in addition to the fleecing of people world wide through the tax system that it would also be the means to work new fraud schemes on the unsuspecting public. (actually I sorta did because I saw the Goracle's carbon credits schemes in action)

The most recent example is reported in Time Mag

A decade ago, someone knocking on your door to sell you solar panels would have been selling you solar panels. Now, they are probably selling you a financial product—likely a lease or a loan.
Mary Ann Jones, 83, didn’t realize this had happened to her until she received a call last year from GoodLeap, a financial technology company, saying she owed $52,564.28 for a solar panel loan that expires when she’s 106, and costs more than she originally paid for her house.

The Rooftop Solar Industry Could Be On the Verge of Collapse | TIME

Guess what suckers ......we subsidize this fraud !

Homeowner’s Guide to the Federal Tax Credit for Solar Photovoltaics | Department of Energy

Besides fleecing unsuspecting homeowners who probably truly believe in this green future nonsense ; they then pocketed the tax credits because they still own the panels ;and sold the credits on the market place.

First Solar to sell up to $700 million in IRA tax credits to Fiserv | Reuters

How to spot solar panel scams - Solar United Neighbors

Are 'Free Solar Panels' Really Free? (2024 Guide) (marketwatch.com)

[tomder55]

[tomder55]

So would you sacrifice your safety on the road to decrease your carbon footprint ?

That is what lawmakers in Washington State are considering .

What are low rolling resistance tires ? They are tires that have less contact with the road by reducing tread depth

They cost more than regular tires ;but allegedly are more fuel efficient so you save in gas costs.

What you compromise for the fuel efficiency is tread longevity , responsiveness, traction, and performance.

Anyone who has been to Washington knows that they are subject to constant weather ;rain and snow. Traction it would seem should be a major concern .That is why the elites in the state drive around with all wheel drive Subarus to their vacation retreats in the Cascades .

But lawmakers would give the state Department of Commerce the authority to prevent the sale of replacement tires that they says have too much “rolling resistance.” California is already in the process of taking tire standards that have traditionally been decided by the national government.

Washington wants to partner with California on this .

Washington state wants to have a say in new tires | Peninsula Daily News


Kudos to the lawmakers in giving lip service to safey

may not adversely affect tire safety or tire longevity as demonstrated by the independent testing of wet grip or traction.

Bill tracking in Washington - HB 2262 (2023-2024 legislative session) - FastDemocracy

If they did not think these tires would impact safety then why do they make as exception to snow tires ?
Must provide exemptions for snow tires, spare use tires,
28 tires manufactured specifically for use in vehicles with three or
29 fewer wheels, or tires manufactured specifically for use in an off-
30 road recreational or agricultural motor vehicle.

The only difference between snow tires and regular tires is thread depth and patterns of thread that increase contact with the road surface.

Limit options ;make them more expensive and make them less safe . The progressive's way.

[tomder55]

Ford's earning report gives sobering reality to these wackos who think that reaching the green new utopia will be on the wheels of EVs.
In the past they relied on taxpayer funded subsidies . So they got away with high prices to a degree . But subsidies are running out .

They think that the compromise of a hybrid vehicle is the ticket

Good luck with that .

Ford sees new 'reality' for EV sales as costs challenge industry transition (yahoo.com)

[jlisenbe]

Desperately needed: People in government capable of serious thought.

[jlisenbe]

Yep. Denver, awash in illegal immigrants, is facing a heavy dose of reality. The mayor has announced he is cutting about 30 mil from city services intended for American citizens who live in Denver in order to pay for the upkeep of people who are not citizens of the U.S. And, of course, this is all the fault of, you guessed it, Donald J. Trump. Denver can now legitimately lay claim to being the fantasy capitol of America. And rather incredibly, I have no doubt that the majority of Denverites approve of all of this.

Denver is cutting $5 million from public services used by its residents in order to pay for its spiraling illegal immigration costs, with the city’s mayor pinning the blame on Republicans and former President Donald Trump.
Mayor Mike Johnston, a Democrat, announced on Friday that hours will be cut at recreation centers, and in-person vehicle registration renewals at the DMV will end, while the planting of spring flower beds will also be stopped to save the much-needed cash.
The cuts follow the mayor’s decision last month to divert $25 million from the city budget to the migrant crisis. That plan included pulling $10 million from a contingency fund and $15 million from a building remodel. Those actions followed the city’s decision to hold many positions vacant and review new or expanded contracts and programs.

Denver cutting $5M from public services to pay for migrant crisis | Fox News

[tomder55]

I believe your response was placed on the wrong discussion . However there are Federal places already created to house SOME of the illegals . It would be sufficient even given the numbers of infiltrators entering the country if there was quick processing

Why are all those FEMA camps constructed and unoccupied ?

US FEMA Camps | Geopolitical Monitor

stat_us.xls (live.com)

[tomder55]

call this Environment intersectionality ...... Where interests in renewable energy meets endangered species preservation .

The Green New steal is impacting India. Once a contender to be their national bird ;the Great Indian Bustard (lost out to the Peacock) ;the Bustard is endangered . It was down to 250 left by the last count I could find. It is related to the crane .It's habitat is mainly in the western Thar desert

And that is the problem because that is where solar and wind projects are being used .
Wind power in India - Wikipedia

Bhadla Solar Park - Wikipedia

Green energy projects threaten the last refuges of the endangered great Indian bustard - The Hindu

And it is not just the bustard . Over 100,000 birds die in India as a result of the green new steal.

Great Indian Bustard and the Renewable Energy Sector – How to Save Both (mercomindia.com)

. The population viability analysis revealed that the great Indian bustard is at imminent risk of extinction due to power line mortality, and calls for urgent mitigation of overhead power cables and the avoidance of future overhead installations in bustard habitat.

High bird mortality due to power lines invokes urgent environmental mitigation in a tropical desert | Request PDF (researchgate.net)

The Indian Supreme Court has ordered all the power lines to be buried . That may be a little too late. But companies are slow walking compliance and the government's enthusiasm is limited .

The ironic thing is that in the rest of the country it is fossil fuels full steam ahead .

India plans to triple underground coal mining to meet energy demand (ft.com)

India's coal production up 12.3% so far in FY24 | Mint (livemint.com)

[tomder55]

Another casualty to the Green New Steal. Apple ;maker of phones said to themselves " we make phones ,we make watches . How hard could it be to make a car ?

Well after a decade long effort ;Apple decided they are no longer in the car making business.

RIP to the Apple Car, we hardly knew ye - The Verge

[tomder55]

Oh the horrors! Congress wants to mandate having AM analogue radios in EVs. Why would that be necessary ? Well in some parts of the country ;especially rural America, that is the best source for emergency broadcasting. FM cable and sat are not always available. What good is having a cell phone with the ability to give emergency alerts if the phone is out of signal range ?

Even in California this can be an issue.

Telecom Companies Are Failing to Keep People Safe During Disasters (jacobin.com)

Take Hurricane Katrina as an example. Cell service went down ;cable service went down. The only was government could send out emergency messages was with AM frequency.
Even in the NY metropolitan area there needs to be a reliable backup besides digital

After Sandy, Questions Linger Over Cellphone Reliability : All Tech Considered : NPR

AM radio is free to everyone . FM ;cable ;cell phones and satellite reception all comes at additional costs to the consumer . My emergency kit has a wind up radio so I can get reception without needing batteries.

47 Senators, including 24 Republicans, and 237 Members in the House (125 Republicans including Speaker Mike Johnson) have co-sponsored the legislation.

But EV makers don't want them because they claim it creates electromagnetic interference. There are ways to mitigate that but it adds more cost to the car.

Some of the establishment don't want them because AM radio is a bigger source of conservative broadcast format. The conspiracy minded part of me suspects that is the real reason for objecting.

The libs counter that conservatives who want to mandate making AM radio available are hypocrites because they chafe at government mandates .

Well yeah they have a bit of a point. But at the same token. These same clowns have no problem forcing us to buy EVs .

[jlisenbe]

but it adds more cost to the car.

So once again the consumer will be forced to pay for what he probably does not want. Thank you, federal government. I'm pretty sure that anyone who wants an AM radio in an emergency has enough sense to buy a cheap one and carry it with them.

Smaller government. MUCH smaller government.

[tomder55]

I'd rather they mandate something like having AM radio than mandating purchasing EVs in the 1st place. Eliminating them is a clear sop to the Green New Steal because having AM capability in an all electric vehicle is an engineering challenge. Too bad All of them add costs but few would argue they are not necessary .

There are hundreds of safety related requirements in autos . In this case you have far right and far left agreeing .

Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders Are Teaming Up to Save AM Radio - The Atlantic

The satellite features and cell phone features in cars all add to the consumer costs also. The only free alternative is FM ;and that has a short range and reception in rural areas can be spotty at best.

The automakers say it is too costly ? I say EV mandates are too costly .

[jlisenbe]

I'd rather they mandate something like having AM radio than mandating purchasing EVs in the 1st place.

And therein lies the problem. By the time everyone gets to mandate their own personal mandate, then the consumer is left to pay for all of this. I'd prefer a world in which my neighbor doesn't get to tell me what I really just must pay for under the guise of taking care of me.