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Wondergirl · Nov 25, 2023, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

It's over WG. Only one of us wants to see the illegal traffic on the southern border stopped and that's me. You seem to be just fine with it. You will never, ever be critical of a liberal dem pres no matter what is allowed into this country.

I said long ago in this thread that nothing was done to prepare for that onslaught of illegal immigrants. And yes, effective measures could have been taken -- and were even talked about by government officials -- but, like too many other times, nothing was done.

jlisenbe · Nov 25, 2023, 05:43 PM

So you’re saying that lack of preparedness was Biden’s responsibility?

Wondergirl · Nov 25, 2023, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

So you’re saying that lack of preparedness was Biden’s responsibility?

Trump's too.

jlisenbe · Nov 25, 2023, 06:03 PM

And what has Biden done to correct that mistake? For that matter, what do you suggest?

Wondergirl · Nov 25, 2023, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

And what has Biden done to correct that mistake? For that matter, what do you suggest?

Trump didn't correct his own mistakes regarding the wall and how to achieve legal immigration. Trump could have been the inspiration and set the pace for Biden and administrations that followed.

What I suggest is in Post #6.

jlisenbe · Nov 25, 2023, 07:10 PM

Checkpoints and drones are already being used and restaurants and temp housing will only serve to attract more illegals. What do you suggest that would actually work against this flood of illegals? And why did you leave Biden out of your criticism?

Wondergirl · Nov 25, 2023, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Checkpoints and drones are already being used and restaurants and temp housing will only serve to attract more illegals. What do you suggest that would actually work against this flood of illegals? And why did you leave Biden out of your criticism?

I did not leave Biden out!!! Please read my Post #43.

What would work would be giving financial aid and hands-on help to struggling countries so their citizens will want live out their lives in those countries.

jlisenbe · Nov 26, 2023, 06:11 AM

In post 45 you predictably reserved all of your criticism for Trump. It's your pattern. And your scathing criticism of Biden in post 43 was, "Trump's too." Gosh. I hope you didn't blow a gasket!!

Where will the money come from to help these struggling nations? We are presently 33 trillion in debt and still running enormous deficits, and yet you propose more new spending?

Complete the wall. There is no other solution. It will eliminate the vast majority of illegal immigration and prevent most of the fentanyl importation and human trafficking, both of which are tragedies we must address and which restaurants and temp housing will do nothing to stop.

Wondergirl · Nov 26, 2023, 08:14 AM

In post 45 you predictably reserved all of your criticism for Trump.

Nope. I answered "Trump's too." Note the operant adverb, TOO. That includes Biden, who is mentioned in your post.

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Where will the money come from to help these struggling nations? We are presently 33 trillion in debt and still running enormous deficits, and yet you propose more new spending?

We wouldn't be in such huge debt had we done it right from the get-go. We might even be making money!

Forget the wall. It's too late.

jlisenbe · Nov 26, 2023, 08:46 AM

Nope. I answered "Trump's too." Note the operant adverb, TOO. That includes Biden, who is mentioned in your post.

Yeah, that was really a powerful rebuke. You managed to be critical of Biden without even mentioning his name. I hope it didn't exhaust you.

We wouldn't be in such huge debt had we done it right from the get-go. We might even be making money!

Being stupid in the past is no excuse for continuing to be stupid in the present.

Forget the wall. It's too late.

It's the only answer, especially in comparison to little restaurants and temp housing.

Wondergirl · Nov 26, 2023, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Yeah, that was really a powerful rebuke. You managed to be critical of Biden without even mentioning his name. I hope it didn't exhaust you.

I'm so sorry you weren't able to understand "Trump's too" as including Biden.

Being stupid in the past is no excuse for continuing to be stupid in the present.

The entire situation would now be different had we been smarter in the beginning.

It's the only answer, especially in comparison to little restaurants and temp housing.

Nope, you don't understand the logic at all.

jlisenbe · Nov 26, 2023, 11:49 AM

There was no logic to understand. Building restaurants will do nothing to stop illegal immigration.

Your scathing, merciless criticism of Biden has been noted. [SARC]

Wondergirl · Nov 26, 2023, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

There was no logic to understand. Building restaurants will do nothing to stop illegal immigration.

I said, "Many more government checkpoints should have been strung along the southern border. Temporary housing, small restaurants, and social services should have been set up. Maybe drones flying overhead too?"

Your scathing, merciless criticism of Biden has been noted. [SARC]

Biden is too old to be reelected and run the country. Same with Trump. Neither of them has any worthwhile ideas. Nor can either one express himself coherently.

jlisenbe · Nov 26, 2023, 12:36 PM

I said, "Many more government checkpoints should have been strung along the southern border. Temporary housing, small restaurants, and social services should have been set up. Maybe drones flying overhead too?"

We already have many checkpoints and already use drones. Housing and "small restaurants" are useless against illegal immigration, so I don't think there is any logic to be found there.

As to your second post, it's fascinating that you can't bring yourself to say anything critical of Biden without having to also mention Trump. Still, your assessment of Biden was entirely correct.

Trump's idea of a wall needs to be instituted immediately.

Wondergirl · Nov 26, 2023, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Trump's idea of a wall needs to be instituted immediately.

All of Trump's ideas need to be deep-sixed.

jlisenbe · Nov 26, 2023, 02:59 PM

Trump's big mouth should be deep-sixed. His ideas, like the wall, were frequently quite good. Some of them resulted in the lowest minority and female unemployment numbers in history and got rid of the poorly decided Roe vs. Wade abortion decision.

Wondergirl · Nov 26, 2023, 03:21 PM

The wall wasn't Trump's idea. Sections had already been built long before he showed up on the scene. And why didn't he finish it?

And that wall would have gone through protected wetlands, private property, and state/federal parks. It never would have been finished.

jlisenbe · Nov 26, 2023, 05:04 PM

The wall wasn't Trump's idea. Sections had already been built long before he showed up on the scene. And why didn't he finish it?

A relatively small section had been built, but the idea of building a substantial wall across our southern border was definitely Trump's idea. He should certainly have finished it.

And that wall would have gone through protected wetlands, private property, and state/federal parks. It never would have been finished.

80% finished would be much better than what we have now.

Wondergirl · Nov 26, 2023, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

80% finished would be much better than what we have now.

Nope. The 20% would have been open doors. It would become common knowledge and where immigrants would travel to.

jlisenbe · Nov 26, 2023, 08:01 PM

Most people can figure out that protecting a 200 mile border is far easier than protecting a 1,000 mile border. And that's even assuming that there are parts of the border which cannot be walled. I doubt that is true.

It would become common knowledge and where immigrants would travel to.

You mean kind of like the ENTIRE BORDER is now???

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