[jlisenbe]

I keep waiting for a rep plan that involves white people, and especially those descended from slave owners, to have to fork over 5 or 10 grand every year for the next twenty years to fund these insane plans. But that won't happen since it would involve those who are guilt ridden having to actually DO something painful to assuage their guilt.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64965277

[jlisenbe]

And yet another liberal idea. Let's appoint a person in charge of equity and diversity who is herself an intolerant racist. Great idea!!

Wing was put under probe by the Pentagon on Sept. 17 over tweets which referred to White people as "Karen[s]."
"I'm exhausted with these white folx in these [professional development] sessions," she wrote.
"[T]his lady actually had the CAUdacity to say that black people can be racist too… I had to stop the session and give Karen the BUSINESS… [W]e are not the majority, we don't have power," Wing said in a tweet.
"Caudacity" is a slang term that is used to describe audacity demonstrated by White people.
On another occasion, Wing responded to a user who said, "I am exhausted by 99% of the white men in education and 95% of the white women. Where can I get a break from white nonsense for a while?"

https://www.foxnews.com/media/pentag...ti-white-posts

[tomder55]

Imagine this scenario .... a Black college educated person with a student loan ,residing in San Fran ,who has over $250,000 deposits in SVB , can count on having the loan forgiven ,the total amount of the deposit reimbursed AND get $5 million ; a lifetime $97,000 income and purchase a $1 home . What a great country !!!


Maybe the San Fran NAACP has a better idea

[jlisenbe]

Conspicuously missing so far in this plan is how SF plans to pay for it.

[tomder55]

They have plenty of billionaires to fleece. But more likely they will be looking to the Federal Government for a bail out .

[jlisenbe]

Cali has all the appearance of a disaster looking for a place to happen. Let's just hope it doesn't drag the rest of the country down with it.

[Curlyben]

How long are these claims going to continue for, seeing that slavery was abolished over 150 years ago ?
By the normal scale of measuring, that's over 6 generations having now passed....

If equality and fair treatment is the end goal, why continue to drag up this unsavory part of history, this action just continues the divide that is crippling America.

[Wondergirl]

Too many whites refuse to consider and treat Blacks as equals. Maybe we should give that a try....

[Curlyben]

Too many whites refuse to consider and treat Blacks as equals. Maybe we should give that a try....

Completely agree, but it's a two way street and we should all be treated fairly and equally, no race based spacial interest groups or handouts.

[Wondergirl]

Completely agree, but it's a two way street and we should all be treated fairly and equally, no race based spacial interest groups or handouts.

Perfectly stated!

[jlisenbe]

But that has little to do with reparations, and especially with the insane proposal from SF.

The first equality to be tackled is equality under the law. That's a battle that has been largely won. The issue of treating each other "fairly and equally" is more a matter of individual hearts. I'm not sure that's a significant problem at this point. Perhaps it is, but it is far down the list of problems which are holding black black progress.

[Wondergirl]

the list of problems which are holding black black progress.

Please tell us three problems from that list.

[tomder55]

In the religion of woke equality is no longer a desirable outcome. It has been supplanted by equity . Equality provides equal opportunity . The new Marxist goal is ensuring equal results .The irony is that the only way to obtain the egalitarian presumption of the goal is to abandon equality . For government it means that if a policy meant to obtain equality results in unequal outcomes it becomes a discriminatory policy .

Explain to a white laborer from families who were destitute in Europe and arrived in the US in the 20th century how that person will be paying taxes to pay reparations to a Black Stanford U engineer residing in San Francisco who's family arrived here from Africa in the 20th Century . Tell the 1st generation immigrant from Latin America how it is fair for them to pay taxes so that Stanford U grad can be paid reparations.

Chief Justice Roberts in a 2007 SCOTUS decision wrote "The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race."

[jlisenbe]

1. The near total disintegration of the black two-parent family which plays a significant role in the next two.
2. Poor educational outcomes in public schools.
3. Black criminal activity, the great majority of which impacts other black individuals.

The wonderful news is that black Americans can solve all three of them with very little need for government or white involvement. The starting point is #1.

Explain to a white laborer from families who were destitute in Europe and arrived in the US in the 20th century how that person will be paying taxes to pay reparations to a Black Stanford U engineer residing in San Francisco who's family arrived here from Africa in the 20th Century . Tell the 1st generation immigrant from Latin America how it is fair for them to pay taxes so that Stanford U grad can be paid reparations.

Great observation.

[tomder55]

Imagine the irony if descendants of John Carruthers Stanly
, Marianne Dragon, Andrew Durnford, Sally Seymore were to receive reparations. (All 4 were free Blacks who owned slaves.)

What is really needed is to free Blacks from the Democrat's plantation of dependency, especially in cities like San Francisco.Chicago and New York .

[jlisenbe]

It's the problem of freedom. In order to be free to succeed, we must also be free to fail. Those who succeed should not be held responsible for those who fail.

[jlisenbe]

Well documented road out of poverty. 1. Graduate from high school. 2. Get a job. 3. Do not have children until you are married.

Over 95% of those who do those three things get out of poverty. So simple, but it does require a person to take responsibility for his/her own actions. Can't just whine and point a finger at others.

[tomder55]

Activists met with the reparations committee and claimed the $5 million is not enough.


"I believe that 5 million in reparations is too little for the work that foundational Black Americans have done for this country and as well for other countries,"

'Five million is too little!' California reparations taskforce told black residents EACH get $7.6m | Daily Mail Online

Black Californians may be owed $800bn in reparations, economists tell state | California | The Guardian

Meanwhile Reverend Tony Pierce said that residency requirements for reparations should be waived .

[jlisenbe]

I guess it's only right for SF to purge its sinful participation in slavery. Weren't they a part of the old Confederacy? I think Lee was raised in Cali. [SARC]

[tomder55]

lol California entered the union as a free state after the 1850 compromise. 17,000 Californians served in the Union Army during the Civil War out of a total population of less than 400,000.... the highest per capita of any state.

There was some Confederate sympathy and even some slavery in the state. But over all it was pro-Union. If any group has grievances against the state it would be Native Americans
Nome Cult Trail (arcgis.com)

Many of the new Union forces from California were sent to fight Apache's.