View Poll Results: Are you, or will you be, vaccinated against Covid-19 ?
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Aug 7, 2021, 05:39 PM
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The point is that young people are far less likely to be hospitalized or die.
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Aug 7, 2021, 05:55 PM
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The point is that no infection can be allowed to run rampant, whether in the young or the old, this is why these superspreader events are stupid
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Ultra Member
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Aug 8, 2021, 12:54 PM
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so is the military going to fire on the lockdown protesters in Sydney ?
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Uber Member
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Aug 8, 2021, 01:01 PM
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In Australia I would not be surprised.
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Ultra Member
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Aug 8, 2021, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
so is the military going to fire on the lockdown protesters in Sydney ?
That superspreader event is over, the threat of a strong police response was sufficient to put an end to that foolishness which was pushed on a gullible public by rabble rousers
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Uber Member
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Aug 8, 2021, 04:07 PM
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the threat of a strong police response was sufficient to put an end to that foolishness which was pushed on a gullible public by rabble rousers
Land of the somewhat free.
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Ultra Member
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Aug 8, 2021, 11:32 PM
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vaccination is an issue, but will we ever get another vacation away from home? given my advanced age, I suspect it is unlikely
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Uber Member
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Aug 9, 2021, 04:35 AM
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vaccination is an issue, but will we ever get another vacation away from home? given my advanced age, I suspect it is unlikely
That's very unfortunate. I hope you get a dozen more.
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Ultra Member
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Aug 9, 2021, 04:51 AM
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Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Had I followed il duce's strict travel requirements I never would've had the time or opportunity to find my home in SC.
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Ultra Member
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Aug 9, 2021, 05:55 AM
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Epidemiologists speaking of Iceland with it's over 90% vaccination rate says that herd immunity will not be achieved by immunizations . It will come from viral transmission.
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Uber Member
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Aug 9, 2021, 07:51 AM
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I wonder if they are taking into account the rate at which this virus is mutating?
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Ultra Member
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Aug 9, 2021, 08:46 PM
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How do you take that into account?
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Uber Member
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Aug 10, 2021, 04:21 AM
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By realizing that the Trump vaccine might very well not be effective against every variant. If that is the case, then herd immunity is a fantasy.
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Ultra Member
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Aug 10, 2021, 04:40 AM
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It is effective within vaccine norms and more effective than some . As an example ,the flu vaccine has about a 60% efficacy. But it does not last long. That is why Pfizer is promoting a booster ;and Israel is giving booster shots to high risk population . Despite that the Delta cases in Israel continue to go up .
I am pretty sure that all the vax makers are hard at work tweeking their vaccine to make them into a Delta vax
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Ultra Member
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Aug 10, 2021, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
then herd immunity is a fantasy.
Herd immunity is a fantasy, a bed time story for the sheeple. There is no herd immunity to the common cold, there is no herd immunity to influenza, there is no herd immunity to SARS.
Those who cannot cope with the virus will leave us. Immunisation will mean less will die
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Ultra Member
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Aug 10, 2021, 07:02 AM
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Here immunity is not 100% immunity . Herd immunity is when enough people have immunity then most of those who encounter someone who has a virus will not get sick. There are many examples of herd immunity ....polio ,measles ,chicken pox are rare these days .
There is no real herd immunity with mutating viruses like the flu ,common cold or Sars Covid appears the be in this group .
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Uber Member
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Aug 10, 2021, 07:39 AM
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Likely the greatest example of herd immunity is smallpox which has been essentially wiped out. But it does not reside in animals and seemed not to mutate, so the small pox vax was very effective. Covid is a different animal.
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Ultra Member
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Aug 11, 2021, 07:28 PM
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In the rush to achieve the myth of herd immunity other more dangerous side effects like heart disease and MS may result from vaccines available fighting covid is like fighting climate change the modelling has taken over
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