[jlisenbe]

Waltero's "questions" were silly, even ridiculous, and not worth answering.

I know. It's always someone else's fault. Still, you, once again, did not answer the question. That's five or six times just in the past two days. WG, your middle name is "Evasion".

[Wondergirl]

I know. It's always someone else's fault. Still, you, once again, did not answer the question. That's five or six times just in the past two days. WG, your middle name is "Evasion".

First of all, too often the "questions" aren't honest ones, but are really just nasty jabs at someone -- with answers becoming red meat for future posts. Reminds me of the game of "Telephone."

[waltero]

Waltero's "questions" were silly, even ridiculous, and not worth answering.

Some of your post might have had a hint of Anger towered God? I don't know why you are so pro-gay lifestyle?
Insinuating that Jesus and some of his disciples were ***!

You act as If; God works for me, then I don’t have to work hard at following Jesus Christ.” You got to work like a slave to follow Jesus Christ. It’s got to be the single most significant aspect of your total existence. It will demand your time; it will change your relationships; it will infiltrate your marriage; it will dominate your singleness—if you’re going to be serious. Of course, if you’re not, then you will either stay in some impoverished, baby-like condition or you will eventually fade from view, indicating to yourself and all who look on that you never, ever began.

Honestly WG? It appears as if you declared War (on JL). Either you've had Homosexual experience and think you'll be alright, not confessing, or you're mad at God for taking your loved ones away, or both?. It's OK to be upset with God

Really just nasty jabs- I was being Honest, not my intent to be nasty.

[Athos]

You act as If God works for me, then I don’t have to work hard at following Jesus Christ.” You got to work like a slave to follow Jesus Christ. It’s got to be the single most significant aspect of your total existence. It will demand your time; it will change your relationships; it will infiltrate your marriage; it will dominate your singleness—if you’re going to be serious. Of course, if you’re not, then you will either stay in some impoverished, baby-like condition or you will eventually fade from view, indicating to yourself and all who look on that you never, ever began.

All this from a known racist and a self-admitted liar.

You have lost any credibility you might have had here, W.

[waltero]

You have lost any credibility

No not that! Please say it isn't so!!!

[Wondergirl]

Some of your post might have had a hint of Anger towered God?

Nope. God didn't have anything to do with it. We live in a fallen world. We get sick; we die. I look forward to a new heaven and a new earth, thanks be to Jesus' love for us.

I don't know why you are so pro-gay lifestyle?

I am very much pro the LGBT+ community (that has existed since the beginning of humanity). They didn't choose this. Each is a valuable human being and is in need of our acceptance.

[waltero]

Nope. God didn't have anything to do with it.

You mentioned more than once, loved ones that passed.

Now tell Mother Nature that. Be sure to give her a good scolding on top of it! And throw in that I'm not real happy that she took my younger son away three years ago and blessed my older son with autism.

I didn't understand your Mother Nature thingy. I've run across some people that have lost a child and felt anger towered God. I was just guessing you might have felt the same way.

Each is a valuable human being and is in need of our acceptance.

Yes, I agree. I will accept them along with anybody who comes my way. I don't understand why a Christian would promote such behavior? To say that the Bible promotes the gay lifestyle, where does that come from? I love that lifestyle, it is great fun, but I hold my distance. I am known to GOD.

I might mention Joseph being a Father, you will dispute that till your dying day. But if somebody shows you gayness in the Bible, you'll run with it till the cows come home?

[jlisenbe]

I am very much pro the LGBT+ community (that has existed since the beginning of humanity).

Wild speculation for which there is not a shred of evidence.

They didn't choose this.

They, in most cases, do not choose their sexual attractions. They certainly do choose what they do with it.

Each is a valuable human being and is in need of our acceptance.

Acceptance? Depends on what you are wanting to accept. They, like all of us, need the life changing power of Jesus.

All this from a known...self-admitted liar.

Good grief. Talk about the pot looking for a kettle to call black, here it is.

First of all, too often the "questions" aren't honest ones, but are really just nasty jabs at someone -- with answers becoming red meat for future posts. Reminds me of the game of "Telephone."

Perhaps you can post "Wondergirl's guide to Answering Questions" so we could have some idea of which ones you feel compelled to reply to. Usually it is no reply at all.

[Wondergirl]

Wild speculation for which there is not a shred of evidence.

No wild speculation. Read Genesis 3 (and the rest of the Bible that follows). The universe (and humanity) drastically changed once Adam and Eve bit into that forbidden fruit. No more binary only.

They, in most cases, do not choose their sexual attractions. They certainly do choose what they do with it.

"In most cases"??? In NO cases. Dystopia is a huge problem in that community. Suppose your mom got DES (estrogen) injections during her pregnancy with you in order to prevent a miscarriage. You then were born with extermal male organs but your heart, soul, and brain screamed, "I'm female!" Now what?

Acceptance? Depends on what you are wanting to accept. They, like all of us, need the life changing power of Jesus.

And that's my mission, to tell them that Jesus loves them even if JL doesn't.

Perhaps you can post "Wondergirl's guide to Answering Questions" so we could have some idea of which ones you feel compelled to reply to. Usually it is no reply at all.

I reply if they make sense, are honest inquiries, and a real discussion might ensue.

[jlisenbe]

No wild speculation. Read Genesis 3. The universe (and humanity) drastically changed once Adam and Eve bit into that forbidden fruit. No more binary only.

As Reagan once said, "There you go again." There is not a hint in Gen. 3 about variant sexual desires. Not a shred. Nada. Nothing. Zero. Doesn't that mean you are basically lying?

Your second comment pertains to TG and not to homosexuals. It is well known that many children experience homosexual desires at the onset of puberty only to move away from that later. But if they are encouraged in that direction, as often happens now, they will continue in a homosexual lifestyle. It is really not binary so much as it is a range.

Your mission is to lie to them about what the Bible says. That's not love, it's hate.

I reply if they make sense, are honest inquiries, and a real discussion might ensue.

Do we all get to follow those guidelines?

[Wondergirl]

There is not a hint in Gen. 3 about variant sexual desires. Not a shred. Nada. Nothing. Zero.

Binary only is no more. Agree or disagree?

[jlisenbe]

Depends on what you mean by, "Binary is no more."

But you do need to stop lying about Gen. 3. What you are saying is flatly untrue and has not one shred of support in the text. I might have thought you were simply mistaken, but it's gone past that now. You really need to stop.

[Wondergirl]

Depends on what you mean by, "Binary is no more."

There is no more only-male and only-female. We are a combo of male-female in a huge variety of aspects.

But you do need to stop lying about Gen. 3.

Read beyond the literal.

[jlisenbe]

There is no more only-male and only-female. We are a combo of male-female in a huge variety of aspects.

I would not agree with that.

Beyond the literal? You told me to read Genesis 3. Did you mean that literally? You also said, "The universe (and humanity) drastically changed once Adam and Eve bit into that forbidden fruit." Did you mean that literally? You also claimed, on the basis of Gen. 3, that there is, "no more binary only." Did you mean that literally? Which of those statements did you not mean literally?

Sorry. Sure looks like lying to me.

[Wondergirl]

I would not agree with that.

Your baby is born with a mix of internal and external male and female sex organs. Now what?

Beyond the literal?

Oops, sorry -- forgot you don't understand anything beyond that.

[jlisenbe]

Oops, sorry -- forgot you don't understand anything beyond that.

Why not knock off the dopey answers and try to be a little serious? This is why I don't like to discuss things with you. You make a dumb, false, statement, but then it's always someone else's fault. "Oh! Oh! You just don't understand." It really gets sickening.

[Wondergirl]

Why not knock off the dopey answers and try to be a little serious? This is why I don't like to discuss things with you.

Then please reply to my non-dopey question.
WG: There is no more only-male and only-female. We are a combo of male-female in a huge variety of aspects.

I would not agree with that.

Your baby is born with a mix of internal and external male and female sex organs. Now what?

[jlisenbe]

Then please reply to my non-dopey question.

No. It'll just come back to this same thing. It always does with you. You can't be honest and it gets old.

[Wondergirl]

No. It'll just come back to this same thing. It always does with you. You can't be honest and it gets old.

Soooo, your conclusion is that I lie and you don't. I'm dishonest and you always tell the truth. You do deep research to find factual information and I flip through Reader's Digest.

[jlisenbe]

That pretty much sums it up, especially the last two sentences. Over the top some, but pretty well right. Your false statement about Gen. 3 is about enough, and especially when you can't be honest enough to simply say you missed it. No, it's got to be someone else's fault. Couldn't be on you. And when I think that you have been telling unsuspecting homosexuals this lying garbage, it really sickens me, and makes me fear for your future. I know that's pretty blunt, but enough is enough.