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jlisenbe · Dec 15, 2020, 08:46 PM

You mean the ones who pay nearly all of the income taxes?

paraclete · Dec 15, 2020, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Dontcha just hate it when stuff happens? And that was fat greedy rich people...I was specific.

Not specific enough, you meant Trump but jl is back focused on those rich people who pay taxes and yet he gives his buddy trump who doesn't a pass

jlisenbe · Dec 16, 2020, 05:10 AM

I haven't given anyone a pass. Trump's returns are looked at annually by the IRS, and anyone who thinks the IRS is giving him a pass is an idiot. And as much as the truth irritates people here, it is simply a fact that wealthy people pay close to ninety percent of fed income taxes, so any call for "tax fairness" is a call being made by an ignorant dufusite. (Yeah...I borrowed the term.)

paraclete · Dec 16, 2020, 05:37 AM

You know, don't you, that i don't care if the rich pay 100% of the taxes and the poor pay nothing, since the rich have 100% of the advantage and 100% of the property and the poor have nothing. The dufus here is you

jlisenbe · Dec 16, 2020, 08:28 AM

that i don't care if the rich pay 100% of the taxes

We have discussed this before. You seem perfectly happy to let others do your "charity" for you. My feeling is that anyone blessed enough to live in this country should shoulder at least some of the load for running the place. It's a responsibility we should all undertake and be happy to do it. To suggest the poor have "nothing" is ridiculous. They certainly have less, much less in fact, but they do not have "nothing" as a general rule. If they have nothing else, they have the golden opportunity of living here and, assuming the person is physically and mentally capable, being free to make a success out of his/her life.

And before you start trying to lecture me on the condition of the poor, I would guess that I have a hundred times more experience of working with poor people than you do. And unlike you, it seems, I have put my own time and money into play to help them rather than depending on taxing the rich to do it.

You are welcome to believe as you will, but I am not going to let you or anyone else on this board get away with portraying your fake charity as something noble. You care so much for poor people that you are willing to force others to help them? Sorry, but not impressed.

talaniman · Dec 16, 2020, 10:22 AM

You're position is fine, nothing new or different from what I've heard for decades. We voted already for a different direction though than the one we were on and that my friend is the true beauty of America. Next election in two years. The only question to be answered in this cycle is which party will control the senate, and that answer will be in about a month or so. After that it's game on! The debate continues!