[Athos]

It's worrisome when the chief law enforcement officer in the US tells a blatant lie on national TV, not caring a whit who is watching, and acts as the personal attorney for Trump.

Parroting claims from President Trump, Attorney General William Barr made two consecutive false statements about voting by mail during a CNN interview: “Elections that have been held with mail have found substantial fraud and coercion. For example, we indicted someone in Texas — 1,700 ballots collected from people who could vote, he made them out and voted for the person he wanted to.”


Both statements are false. No one was indicted on a charge of casting 1,700 fraudulent ballots, and voter fraud is so rare in the United States, researchers describe it as a statistical blip whether the ballots are cast in-person or by mail.


The Texas case Barr cited as proof involves one fraudulent ballot, which was caught, not 1,700.


Five states — Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah and Washington — use mail ballots as the primary method of voting. In 2018, more than 31 million Americans voted by mail, representing one-quarter of election participants. No major fraud issues have been reported.

[talaniman]

Athos you will be starting a lot of threads if you jump on every lie the dufus and his sycophants tell. You're already ten thousand behind so get to typing. 8D

[Athos]

Athos you will be starting a lot of threads if you jump on every lie the dufus and his sycophants tell. You're already ten thousand behind so get to typing. 8D

LOL. More like 20,000 behind. I'll never get to all of them before the election, so Trump will have to read them in his jail cell.

[tomder55]

No major fraud issues have been reported.

https://www.njherald.com/news/202006...ing-new-jersey

[talaniman]

Got any updates on this story Tom?

[tomder55]

yes there will be a special election in November .

A judge ruled that the councilperson could not take his seat .

https://patersontimes.com/2020/08/31...cial-election/

[talaniman]

A fair enough outcome pending a criminal trial, as was in NC. The system does work.

[tomder55]

Didn't say the system doesn't work .....when they are caught .

Al Franken wasn't caught . But the evidence clearly showed he stole the Minnesota Senate seat from Norm Coleman through voter fraud .
The best way to maintain honest voter registration rolls would be for them to be subject to renewal, just like drivers’ licenses, passports, hunting and fishing licenses, concealed carry permits, etc.

[talaniman]

LOL, so the Minnesota State Canvasing Board and the Minnesota Supreme Court aided and abetted the dems voter fraud? You're on a roll Tom, or would SPIN be a better term?

Voter rolls are already subject to review, and we get thousands of purges every year.

[tomder55]

Coleman went along with the state Supreme court decision . He probably should've pursued it further just like Nixon should've in 1960 when there was clear evidence of fraud in Illinois .
The Dems strategy from the start was to manipulate the recount in a way that would discover votes that could add to Franken 's total. They demanded that votes that had been disqualified be added to his count, while others be denied for Coleman. But the deciding fact was the mail in ballots . Franken's flunkies demanded that rejected ballots get counted . They managed to add 1,350 absentee ballots to the total putting Franken over the edge by 312 votes (many of them votes from felons who were not eligible to vote ) . You are right ,the state supreme court was loath to overturn canvassing boards regardless of how corrupt and illegal a process it was . What Coleman lost was not an election . It was the fight to stop the state canvassing board from changing the vote counting rules after the fact.

[talaniman]

How come the repubs just didn't admit they were disqualifying legit votes in the first place and saving all the drama? Franken had to have grounds to sue in the first place and obviously he did. or was the court in on it too?

[Athos]

Coleman went along with the state Supreme court decision . He probably should've pursued it further just like Nixon should've in 1960 when there was clear evidence of fraud in Illinois .
The Dems strategy from the start was to manipulate the recount in a way that would discover votes that could add to Franken 's total. They demanded that votes that had been disqualified be added to his count, while others be denied for Coleman. But the deciding fact was the mail in ballots . Franken's flunkies demanded that rejected ballots get counted . They managed to add 1,350 absentee ballots to the total putting Franken over the edge by 312 votes (many of them votes from felons who were not eligible to vote ) . You are right ,the state supreme court was loath to overturn canvassing boards regardless of how corrupt and illegal a process it was . What Coleman lost was not an election . It was the fight to stop the state canvassing board from changing the vote counting rules after the fact.

Tom, you could easily doctor this up and send it over to a loony right-wing website, and, VOILA!, a brand new conspiracy theory.

[tomder55]

The truth sometimes is stranger than fiction