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    #121

    Sep 9, 2020, 08:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    everything trump says and does is interpreted and blown up by liberal media, again read the transcript, listen to the interview, nothing to see here
    You're losing it, paraclete. This statement is the height of untruth when describing what Trump says. Hard to believe you actually wrote it down and posted it here. Where have you been the last few decades? The interview couldn't possibly be more clear showing Trump for the evil idiot he is.
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    #122

    Sep 9, 2020, 09:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    You're losing it, paraclete. This statement is the height of untruth when describing what Trump says. Hard to believe you actually wrote it down and posted it here. Where have you been the last few decades? The interview couldn't possibly be more clear showing Trump for the evil idiot he is.
    I'm not referring to everything he says, but in this instance it is over blown by the media. You assume that your President has total perception, but on the other hand you know he is a very flawed individual who isn't focused on anything but himself so unless he actually falls prey to the virus he doesn't understand it and relies on statistics like 5% as if he knows what 5% actually means. Has it killed 5% of infected in the US? no probably no more than 1% so Trump doesn't realise it but it really is no worse than the seasonal flu otherwise he would had said that and been lampooned for it
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    Sep 9, 2020, 11:27 PM
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    #124

    Sep 10, 2020, 04:57 AM
    You can expect to see more of this silliness. First there was the now discredited Atlantic article. Then Woodward interviews Trump in March and makes it public two months before the election. Coincidence? Nah. And there is the predictably hyper, over the top reaction by the usual people, practically apoplectic concerning their views of Trump who are, I suppose, disappointed that Trump did not appear in public months ago with his hair on fire screaming, "Run for the hills! The virus is a comin!" They seem unable to consider this simple question: If Trump had been engaged in purposeful lying, then why would he have allowed himself to be interviewed by the very guy who took down Nixon and then "spilled the beans" to him? And if Woodward, after the interview, knew that Trump had been lying and that a dangerous pandemic was coming down the highway, why didn't he go public the very next day with that information? Sorry, but something about this whole story smells of a political hatchet job.

    But at the end of the day, even if it somehow all turns out to be true, the sad fact remains that the only alternative to Trump is a far left-wing ticket led by a guy who cannot think clearly. Good luck with that.
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    #125

    Sep 10, 2020, 06:39 AM
    You have options. You can hold your nose again for the lying cheating dufus, hold your nose for the far left gaffe machine, or stay home and just add THIS to your collection of empty snake oil bottles.

    Or get you some popcorn and a Netflix subscription to avoid the hearings about yet another whistleblower squealing on the dufus, and all the coverage and campaign commercials that are surely coming to a TV near you.

    From experience it's more fun to blast the opposition than defend the incumbents, especially a bumbling fumbling liar, who cheats and steals and talks bookoo crap from behind the podium of the highest office in the world.

    Option TWO is the choice for you and give your poor pinched nose a break.
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    #126

    Sep 10, 2020, 08:32 AM
    A bumbling fumbling liar? Is Obama running again??
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    #127

    Sep 10, 2020, 11:05 AM
    No but his VP Joe is promising a return to common sense and stability, with responsible governance, unlike the current devious dufus. I know, a low bar to overcome.
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    #128

    Sep 10, 2020, 12:23 PM
    Joe is promising a return to common sense and stability, with responsible governance,
    You are living in a fantasy world. Read AOC's Green New Deal, which JB has endorsed, and then come back and let's talk about "common sense".
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    #129

    Sep 10, 2020, 12:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You are living in a fantasy world. Read AOC's Green New Deal, which JB has endorsed, and then come back and let's talk about "common sense".
    If we don't do something like this soon, we'll all be engulfed in flames like the West Coast is now and be devastated by storms like the recent Lake Charles hurricane and the derecho/tornado just a mile north of me -- ripped-up trees, branches everywhere, no electricity and internet, destroyed buildings, blocked roads, human injuries and deaths.
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    #130

    Sep 10, 2020, 01:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You are living in a fantasy world. Read AOC's Green New Deal, which JB has endorsed, and then come back and let's talk about "common sense".
    I have reviewed it and it's a start to a conversation rebus/conservatives want no part of. Now Mitch blames dems because his repub skinny covid bill failed. DUH! He knew the rules. If he needed dem votes then he compromises with the dems.

    He didn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    If we don't do something like this soon, we'll all be engulfed in flames like the West Coast is now and be devastated by storms like the recent Lake Charles hurricane and the derecho/tornado just a mile north of me -- ripped-up trees, branches everywhere, no electricity and internet, destroyed buildings, blocked roads, human injuries and deaths.
    Repubs don't want green jobs, they want dirty nasty land air and water. They don't believe in Climate change no matter how funky the weather is.
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    #131

    Sep 10, 2020, 01:41 PM
    I have reviewed it and it's a start to a conversation rebus/conservatives want no part of.
    No, it's not. That's like saying WW2 was a start to a conversation about world peace. The GND is a proposal involving tens of trillions of dollars and massive changes in American lives. It is insane.

    Repubs don't want green jobs, they want dirty nasty land air and water. They don't believe in Climate change no matter how funky the weather is.
    You do realize our national output of CO2 has been declining for a number of years thanks, in large degree, to the increased use of natural gas. That would never have happened if we had listened to the zany dems who did not want fracking to take place. If we had listened to them, we would not be producing so much natural gas and would not be energy independent.

    Now I realize that liberal dems do not like data, but here is some more for you to chew on.

    https://ourworldindata.org/co2/count...s?country=~USA
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    #132

    Sep 10, 2020, 01:53 PM
    If we don't do something like this soon, we'll all be engulfed in flames like the West Coast is now and be devastated by storms like the recent Lake Charles hurricane and the derecho/tornado just a mile north of me -- ripped-up trees, branches everywhere, no electricity and internet, destroyed buildings, blocked roads, human injuries and deaths.
    You act like wildfires, hurricanes and other storms are all recent inventions.

    Top 5 Years with most Violent Tornadoes (F/EF 4/5) 626 total
    1974 – 38
    1965 – 31
    1957 – 26
    1953 – 22
    2011 – 22
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    #133

    Sep 10, 2020, 02:16 PM
    All nice data talking points and rock throwing, but all I want to know is why the dufus lies and you believe it, and defend him?
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    #134

    Sep 10, 2020, 03:17 PM
    I guess the same reason you had for believing and defending Obama's lies. Right?

    It's disappointing to present solid data and have you just blow it off as "talking points", but it clearly proves that this was a valid statement. "Now I realize that liberal dems do not like data..."
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    #135

    Sep 10, 2020, 08:22 PM
    I like data and the research that it entails.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...193-X/fulltext

    https://fortune.com/2020/06/11/how-r...of-inequality/
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    #136

    Sep 10, 2020, 10:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I now know where it is easy to dig up such B/S two articles that say absolutely nothing that will derive a cure for CV19
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    #137

    Sep 11, 2020, 04:16 AM
    Yeah. What garbage. Tal, you don't have any idea what the first article is saying. For instance, what does this mean?

    Using these definitions, a provider might generate for every individual i a set of locations at spatial scale a for every time bin t in the time window T. The values for a can be directly mapped to larger regions of aggregation A. For example, for a given user, one can calculate their location as defined by presence in a 600 m × 600 m Bing Tile (a: zoom level 16)37
    for every 30 min segment (t) over the course of 24 h (T). Every Bing Tile is also mapped onto a county A for which all data are aggregated. We define this set of time-specific locations as
    MiT={ait1,ait2,...,aitn}
    As for the second article, it simply says what we have known for months. Black Americans have been hit harder by the virus than other Americans. It attributes that largely to SES, which is no surprise and basically amounts to saying that poor people are more likely to have problems with the virus.

    So what's your point, other than to deflect away from the obvious reality that you don't pay any attention to data that doesn't agree with your preconceived notions?
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    #138

    Sep 11, 2020, 04:54 AM
    Mr. Biden's top flight mind at work again. Can't wait for the debates where he will have to think on his feet and all of the media not named FoxNews will be scrambling to defend him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf8BHFGqlQo

    And then there was his reference to, in his view, the supreme importance of the Declaration of Independence. Sadly, he could not remember it.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIVJCDwZUkM
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    #139

    Sep 11, 2020, 03:15 PM
    If we don't do something like this soon, we'll all be engulfed in flames like the West Coast is now and be devastated by storms like the recent Lake Charles hurricane and the derecho/tornado just a mile north of me -- ripped-up trees, branches everywhere, no electricity and internet, destroyed buildings, blocked roads, human injuries and deaths.
    no hysterical over reaction here
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    #140

    Sep 11, 2020, 04:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    no hysterical over reaction here
    No empathy from a fellow NYer....

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