[paraclete]

What about the British and Irish convicts who were taken to Australia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convicts_in_Australia

Well they had nowhere else to send them after the americas closed but they did the same there. Convicts were punished if they didn't do what was required but many became useful citizens because unlike your African slaves, they would be released after a time.

I see you have your own homebrewed snake oil of which you have generously partaken of Clete. That's cool.

No not snake oil euclypis oil Tal and unlike snake oil it cures all manner of of disease as does goanna oil

[talaniman]

How convenient, that England could empty it's jails in America, and later Australia. No doubt for the good of the crown and mutually beneficial for both countries as we had similar experience with those convicts blending into the population as citizens and contributors to the labor force. England abolished slavery in the 1800's, but continued to colonize the New World which included Canada, the West Indies and South America. For sure unless they had a tattoo on their forehead, few knew they were convicts and certainly not their descendants, and lets be real, a guy with dark skin and no papers could hardly go unnoticed. So adding eucalyptus to snake oil may make it go down better but it's still snake oil.

No English convicts then Aussies could well have been speaking French or some other language than English, same here obviously.

[paraclete]

No English convicts then Aussies could well have been speaking French or some other language than English, same here obviously.

Not really the french sailed by but didn't stay, a flag was enough to deter them, maybe they had other thoughts in mind, so did the dutch only the british could see the potential of this place

[talaniman]

As a perfect place to dump people in English jails.

[paraclete]

That may be but some people like my ancestors came as free settlers in the early nineteenth century, we weren't all convicts, you know?

[talaniman]

How would I know that? You have done well though, so far!

[paraclete]

Yes with a few million people we have done extraordinarily well

[talaniman]

Hope the success continues with a few hundred million people.

[paraclete]

Hope the success continues with a few hundred million people.

it will never get to that, this continent lacks the water resource yours has to sustain such a population, our population would decline even now if not for migration

[talaniman]

We'll see. You might solve that problem eventually.

[paraclete]

Yes bring our Antarctic territories closer that is the only way we will get more water, climate change predicts more droughts, you have hurricanes to dump water on you, our cyclones arn't always so obliging

[talaniman]

We pump oil/crude for miles across our nation and you guys can't pump water? What am I missing?

[paraclete]

We pump oil/crude for miles across our nation and you guys can't pump water? What am I missing?

The availability of water, no great lakes here, even the mighty Darling is a dry channel most of the time. we have considered damming the coastal rivers in the north and pumping the water over the mountains, a visionary idea from the early twentieth century but if money were no object and the greenies and indigenous were to suddenly die out... but on probabalities , no