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jlisenbe · May 15, 2020, 05:12 AM

You mean did it, since he's been gone 3 years now.

I laughed when I read that. "Your Honor, I'm guilty, but I did all of that three years ago, so you need to just turn me loose now." Well of course that makes sense...to someone...somewhere.

jlisenbe · May 15, 2020, 05:24 AM

A little humor to start the day. Even the humor-impaired on this board will appreciate it...I think.

talaniman · May 15, 2020, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

I laughed when I read that. "Your Honor, I'm guilty, but I did all of that three years ago, so you need to just turn me loose now." Well of course that makes sense...to someone...somewhere.

Then we have the matter of did what? Does that make sense?

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

A little humor to start the day. Even the humor-impaired on this board will appreciate it...I think.

Be really funny if it weren't so true. So would these,

talaniman · May 15, 2020, 06:08 AM

Ran out of room, but there is more

tomder55 · May 15, 2020, 09:34 AM

he's got nothing for the bug

large scale vaccine testing by July

when you find any science in Fauci's responses let me know

talaniman · May 15, 2020, 12:50 PM

When you find any science in the dufus about anything please let me know. Matter of fact muzzle the dufus and let Fauci do his job. I think you just want your economy back.

tomder55 · May 15, 2020, 01:34 PM

Fauci backed and helped fund the Wuhan Wmd lab.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/dr-fau...6WNkuaGpHySXMw

On January 21st he said “Americans Don't Need To Worry About Coronavirus:

https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/m...t-coronavirus/

Fauci said on February 8th: 'Danger of getting coronavirus now is just minusculely low':

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/4790996..._Nk7bvxUflZMsw

Fauci on February 29th tells the Today Show that there is NO NEED for the public to change their behavior over concern for Coronavirus:

https://www.today.com/video/dr-fauci...et-79684677616

March 9th, Fauci recommends taking a cruise, tells Forbes Magazine that if you’re healthy, cruise ships are safe:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggol...e-healthy/amp/

The guy is a bloviator . I trust Dr Birx . She backs everything she says with science . Fauci not so much .He is a publicity whore .

Back to the subject of the OP

https://sidneypowell.com/wp-content/...-NEW-FINAL.pdf

talaniman · May 15, 2020, 03:02 PM

The dufus is hardly the only one to drop the corona ball here, but Fauci seems to be up to speed now and no doubt has more credibility than his boss on the issue.

https://youtu.be/ibCuZkan4JM

Jury's out on the Flynn outcome though. Between Barr and Powell, he does have better lawyers.

tomder55 · May 15, 2020, 03:26 PM

We already know the ultimate outcome . WE don't have 'Alice in Wonderland ' Justice . No judge can be both judge and prosecutor in our system ;and a judge has no authority to appoint a prosecutor . Provisions can be made to provide in some cases for a defense because the Constitution says so . This judge also has a conflict of interest . He has called Flynn a traitor . ABA rule 2:11 makes it clear that

A) A judge shall disqualify himself or herself in any proceeding in which the judge’s impartiality* might reasonably be questioned, including but not limited to the following circumstances

(1) The judge has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party or a party’s lawyer, or personal knowledge* of facts that are in dispute in the proceeding.

(5) The judge, while a judge or a judicial candidate,* has made a public statement, other than in a court proceeding, judicial decision, or opinion, that commits or appears to commit the judge to reach a particular result or rule in a particular way in the proceeding or controversy.

talaniman · May 15, 2020, 04:54 PM

I know the rules and the discretionary limits of judges and attorneys and it all depends on going through the process Tom. This ain't L & O where it's wrapped up in an hour episode. This could well drag out for weeks or months.

tomder55 · May 15, 2020, 05:03 PM

of course it could drag on for weeks . That is the goal ;not justice . I cant believe after all that was revealed this week from Obots under oath that you still cling to the Russian collusion hoax .

talaniman · May 15, 2020, 05:16 PM

I don't trust the dufus and his sycophants, nor right wing spin and talking points. I never believe anyone claiming victory until the game is over. Pretty simple formula 'eh "CHAMP!"

Athos · May 15, 2020, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

https://sidneypowell.com/wp-content/...-NEW-FINAL.pdf

Here's the truth re what Powell is doing.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/05/1...sions-not-one/

talaniman · May 16, 2020, 07:41 AM

Now that Athos was truly informative. Safe to say this judge isn't going to just follow whatever Barr and his sycophants put down without a comprehensive vetting of the facts.

tomder55 · May 16, 2020, 10:28 AM

Executive primacy and Sullivan’s attempt to supplant the executive power of prosecution with his own judicial authority is the only issue at stake . I already informed you that last week SCOTUS 9-0 struck down judges

decisions to solicit outside Amicus briefs. Ginsburg wrote the unanimous decision against the 9th Circus Court .

A similar case ,U.S. v. Fokker Services

, Judge Richard Leon refused to accept a deferred prosecution agreement between the emperor's Justice Department and a Dutch aerospace services company. He thought it was too lenient. The DC Circus court smacked him down In their opinion "decisions to dismiss pending criminal charges

—no less than... to bring—lie squarely within the ken of prosecutorial discretion
."
That opinion was authored by

Sri Srinivasan ;appointed by the emperor . In his decision he quoted

quoted a 1967 precedent,

Newman v. U.S.

: “[f]ew subjects are less adapted to judicial review than the exercise by the Executive of his discretion in deciding when and whether to institute criminal proceedings, or what precise charge shall be made, or whether to dismiss a proceeding once brought.”

The Executive’s primacy in criminal charging decisions is long settled. Judge Sullivan can be compelled with a writ of

mandamus or he can be removed under the same provision. That would go to the DC Circus where Srinivasan's precendent is already established .

jlisenbe · May 16, 2020, 02:28 PM

It's over. They just don't realize it yet.

talaniman · May 17, 2020, 04:30 AM

The process continues.

tomder55 · May 17, 2020, 04:36 AM

there is no legitimate judicial process being exercised by Sullivan ....only partisan delays.

talaniman · May 17, 2020, 05:07 AM

This isn't the first time Sullivan has stepped beyond the "norm" to get data before him.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/12/emmet-sullivan-judge-g/

You can't be suggesting any judge doesn't have a duty to examine any filings/issues before him with due diligence are you Tom, and he must accede to such request just because they make it are you?

tomder55 · May 17, 2020, 09:24 AM

Yes he handled the Stevens case . Saw there was abuse by the prosecution and dismissed the case . The exact same circumstances exist in the Flynn case . The FBI withheld exculpatory evidence ;doctored and fabricated 302 filings to the FISA court . The originals have never been found . The FBI decided to set up a perjury trap even after the recommendation was to discontinue the Flynn investigation . The article you cite even admits that the FBI discouraged Flynn from having council present . Flynn had no idea he was being investigated . Why would he think so ? As incoming National Security Advisor it would be perfectly normal for him to have a call in to the Russian Ambassador .