[Athos]

Republicans will turn a blind eye. But history books will say: In April of 2020, when the pandemic had already claimed 35,000 lives, the President of the United States incited people to storm their statehouses with AR-15s and AK-47s.

Trump tweets: "LIBERATE VIRGINIA! Save your great second amendment. It's under siege!"

[paraclete]

Yes Trump is a dill

[talaniman]

He has to really his base, and it's being reported a number of his rich supporters are organizing and bankrolling these protests. Everything he says and does is about his reelection.

[paraclete]

He has to really his base, and it's being reported a number of his rich supporters are organizing and bankrolling these protests. Everything he says and does is about his reelection.

With all the strife, why would he want the aggravation? Better to let some other incompetent inherit the problems

[tomder55]

maybe if our Governors werent acting like little despots then the people would not have gone to the street .

Much of the draconian regulations depends on the voluntary cooperation of the citizenry .

But you know that they have become power hungry when they fine people in California $1000 for sitting in their cars watching the sunset . Or they fill in skateboard parks with sand in LA to prevent kids from using the parks . Or they close down public parks where there is no evidence that people are violation their social separation edicts . Or that clown Governor in Michigan who decided that it was ok to buy pot and booze but not garden seeds .

I can understand the need for some of the measures in NY . But even here il duce Cuomo has gone too far. There was less ridership in the NYC subways and trains . That was a good thing right ? But instead of leaving well enough alone . They reduced train service and cars . So now even though there are fewer riders . The cars are packed again.

So it is all BS . 99 % of the country should be back up and running. But the truth is that the Dems want to extend their power grab because people dying and the economy tanking during a Republican's watch is good for them.

[talaniman]

Wonder if those closed businesses can guarantee the safety of the customers AND employees? How do you eat a 5 course meal in a mask? You think those meat packing guys in Colorado want to go back to work after getting sick? I see a lot of adjustments before the economy can be safely restarted.

I heard the other day how we can bring back sports without the fans and televise the games ala pro wrestling. Sounds good to me as long as the players stay healthy. Here's a clue, the frontline essentials getting sick and cannot work. You know this well in NY. Extrapolate that to the rest of the country. Is that an excuse for the dufus to rally his base against dems governors shutdown orders?

Just can't wait for a test to be on the safe side huh! Cuomo just got one so we'll see.

[tomder55]

You think those meat packing guys in Colorado want to go back to work after getting sick?

I'm sick and will return to work gladly as soon as I clear protocol .

Your example about social distancing in a restaurant is a problem . I say let the restaurants and the private businesses figure it out . The 1st thing to reopen in Penn Station NYC was a Dunkin Donuts . They put marks on the floor and they have plexiglass barriers between the customer and cashier .

Just can't wait for a test to be on the safe side huh!

What test ? I asked about retest before I return to work and I was told by an agent of NYS Dept Health that often the test comes back positive weeks after initial positive results . And test results big enough to make any meaningful evaluation will take months if not more than a year . You want the economy down all that time ? I know quite a few small business owners who will not be able to reopen and it doesn't matter how much monopoly money they are being given. I know a yoga instructor who

rented space to have classes in December to start January . She now pays rent but can't conduct classes . Like I said ;the Dems want the economy shut down until November

[paraclete]

Shutdown is annoying and many small business owners will not survive, rents and lack of revenue will kill them off, even large chains have closed

[tomder55]

Clete you would think the Dem Guvs would want business up and running . Who pays the taxes for their excessive spending ? What we are seeing here is private practices closing down too . Hospitals make their money on the so called elective procedures . And almost all of those have been suspended here even though they wildly exaggerated the demand of Wuhan virus patients in most of the country . BTW some procedures being called elective procedures is a cruel joke. I know a guy who's urinary tract needs a procedure to open it up . He has had a tube running from his bladder into a bag for a couple months now and his surgery has been indefinitely delayed .

[paraclete]

Yes Tom any condition that doesn't immediately kill you is elective. making sure hospital beds are available is important. This is just nanny state overkill but if the politicians do nothing they are condemned so overreaction becomes the norm. The US has a bad case of the flu, much worse than many other places and you have to wonder how this can happen in such a high tech place. Our cities are crowded too but we don't have the transmission rate or the death rate and isolation measures appear to be working. maybe it is the fact that you are in the winter season and we are coming out of summer that makes the difference but we never had this panic over h1n1, etc and that kills as many people each year. So I'm off for my annual flu jab this morning, must take preventative measures

[Wondergirl]

The US has a bad case of the flu

COVID-19 isn't a flu.

[tomder55]

Our cities are crowded too but we don't have the transmission rate or the death rate and isolation measures appear to be working. maybe it is the fact that you are in the winter season and we are coming out of summer that makes the difference but we never had this panic over h1n1, etc and that kills as many people each year. So I'm off for my annual flu jab this morning, must take preventative measures

I doubt your cities are stacked like this

maybe it is the fact that you are in the winter season and we are coming out of summer that makes the difference

https://theweek.com/speedreads/90436...-are-convinced

[talaniman]

And its spring here Clete. Why can't we open the economy back up safely, and keep it open, instead of chancing a relapse? Repubs just don't want to give workers any more money than they have too. Ceo's...now that's okay with them.

[Athos]

Look at the photograph leading this thread.

At today's presser, Trump said, "The protestors are nice. They're keeping six feet apart during the protest". The photographic evidence proves without a doubt that Trump[ is A) lying, or, B) is in an alternate reality.

His constant claim that America has done more testing than anyone else is a distraction from the truth. America is nowhere near the highest in testing when the all-important per capita measurement is used.

Trump did his usual freak-out against the press today at the meeting when uncomfortable questions that he didn't like were asked. Instead of answering, he blasted the questioners with insults and nastiness that had nothing to do with the question.

For those who need factual evidence of Trump's behavior during these press conferences, there are dozens of "fact-check" sites on the internet and also in the newspapers.

It is enlightening (and frightening at the same time) that so many get their information only from Fox-News without a clue as to what the overwhelming media is actually reporting re Trump and his stupidity.

[tomder55]

Tal the government ran out of money already . The Repubs want Congress to pass additional funding but Madam Mim Antoinette is eating expensive ice cream from her well stocked freezer ;and won't allow Congress back until May 4 . But again I'll ask this simple question . If people are not working and getting wages . Then who does the government tax to fund their gimmees ?

lol 'fact check sites ' Sites funded by the Annenberg group and Soros .

[Athos]

lol 'fact check sites ' Sites funded by the Annenberg group and Soros .

You're a liar, Tom. Just like your hero Trump.

[Wondergirl]

I doubt your cities are stacked like this


https://theweek.com/speedreads/90436...-are-convinced

Sydney, Australia. Certainly there must be tenements SOMEwhere in that beautiful city!

[Wondergirl]

Trump did his usual freak-out against the press today at the meeting when uncomfortable questions that he didn't like were asked. Instead of answering, he blasted the questioners with insults and nastiness that had nothing to do with the question.

For those who need factual evidence of Trump's behavior during these press conferences, there are dozens of "fact-check" sites on the internet and also in the newspapers.

And there are videos online of each "press briefing."

[tomder55]

Sydney has less than 5 million people . The NYC area has 18.8 million .

[Wondergirl]

Sydney has less than 5 million people . The NYC area has 18.8 million .

And if it had 18.8 million people, I betcha it would still be beautiful and minus ugly tenements full of the miserable poor, homeless people lining the sidewalks, and panhandlers busking or just holding out a donation cup.