[talaniman]

The Dufus let the dogs out when he announced he was running for office and has to keep them fed constantly least they turn on him and devour his a$$. Hope they televise it.

[tomder55]

today the US announced sanctions against a Russian bank for helping the NORKS . Is this part of the collusion conspiracy ?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/03/trum...orea-ties.html

[tomder55]

It also revealed bipartisan largess. One 2014 email presented in court on Tuesday showed the Democratic consultant Thomas A. Devine proposing a “day rate” of $10,000 to do work in Ukraine on behalf of Mr. Yanukovych, the Russia-aligned former president who was a longtime client of Mr. Manafort.“You would need to make the travel arrangements, and transfer the $50G before the trip,” he wrote to Rick Gates, Mr. Manafort’s partner for the Ukraine work. “If you want me to come on Monday and leave Thursday it would be $40G.”Mr. Devine, who is known as Tad, went on to become the chief strategist for the presidential campaign of Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, a self-proclaimed democratic socialist.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/u...s-mueller.html

[Devine] repeatedly echoed the Sanders message that “our economy is rigged,” that “special interests” buy politicians, that “all of the new wealth is going to the top of America,” that there is a “corrupt system of campaign finance” of which Hillary Clinton offered an “egregious” example. Sanders, by contrast, “supported the little guy.”Those who heard Devine’s interviews and watched his Sanders TV ads therefore may be surprised to know that, in the years and months leading up to the Sanders presidential campaign, Devine was making gobs of money to secure the election of one of the world’s most corrupt political figures and then his allies…Devine produced a memo of advice for Yanukovych’s party in 2012, even though by then Yanukovych had thrown the leading opposition politician in jail and had built a $100 million mansion — complete with zoo, helipad, golf course and replica galleon on an artificial lake — while his people were, in Devine’s own words, struggling with “joblessness, hunger and the general despair.

”https://www.vnews.com/Column-The-dee...egist-19253316

[talaniman]

You think there is no pressure on the Dufus to sanction Vlad and his cronies? What do you think will happens if he doesn't? Announcements mean nothing, lets wait and see how long it takes to implement those sanctions, or have you forgotten other sanctions he has slow walked, or no walked. He has no choice but to talk tough against Vlad, so his sycophants don't stray to far. No Tom that's not rain, The Dufus is peeing on our heads again.

[paraclete]

Well of course he is you have lain down in the dew. You see you must allow those who you elect the latitude to conduct public policy. There are words that are spoken for domestic consumption and there are words spoken for foreign consumption, unfortunately Trump doesn't know the difference and so he speaks directly to foreign leaders in a loud voice. You have never heard that you catch more flies with honey

[talaniman]

Or a hot steamy pile of crap! Flies love sh1t!

[tomder55]

You think there is no pressure on the Dufus to sanction Vlad and his cronies? What do you think will happens if he doesn't?

The facts are that he has sanctioned and taken more provocative moves against Russia than the emperor ever dreamed of .

It’s hard to find a single aspect of foreign affairs where the Trump administration has made a decision or taken an action that favored Putin and Russia.In Syria we have inflicted casualties on Russians .We are trying to get NATO to increase defense spending . Our enegy polices are putting a major hurt on the Russian economy . Under Trump we have expelled diplomats and seized Russian diplomatic and trade sites . We have troops on the Russian border in 2 European nations and have deployed defensive missiles in Poland and conduct war games in the Baltic nations .

The left cracks me up ! This hawkishness against Russia is a 'johnny come lately' move by the Dems .Where was your anti-Russia movement when the left was all over the streets protesting the deployment of Pershing II ? Where was the left's outrage when Teddy Kennedy colluded with the Russians to influence the election of 1984 ?

I'll go even sooner . The Dems who now support the Magnitsky Act originally opposed it because they feared it would interfere with their precious reset . The emperor tried to get the Jackson-Vanik amendment repealed , a law tying enhanced trade relations with Russia to its human rights record. Both Evita and JFKerry vigorously oppsed the Magninsky act.

Throughout his two terms in office, Obama played down the threat Russia posed to America’s allies, interests and values, and ridiculed those who warned otherwise. “The traditional divisions between nations of the south and the north make no sense in an interconnected world nor do alignments of nations rooted in the cleavages of a long-gone Cold War,” (Obama 2009) .The emperor even downplayed the invasion of Crimea .When asked by a reporter ,

just a few weeks after the annexation was formalized, , if Romney’s statement about Russia being our main geopolitical threat had been proven correct, Obama dismissed Russia as “a regional power that is threatening some of its immediate neighbors not out of strength but out of weakness.”

So excuse me if I don't take an this sudden neo-hawkish stand against Russia by the Dems seriously . If the emperor was still in power they would be going along with his wet noodle spineless response to Russian provocations . The most we would hear is the emperor telling us he told Russia to "cut it out " .

[paraclete]

You do know Obama may have been right, Russia may not actually be your enemy, just your competitor as Trump says. You should keep a closer eye on China, they represent a greater threat as they expand

[talaniman]

They both are protecting Kim, and they both seek expansion. They are all closed societies looking for the money not for their people but for enrichment of their dictators and ruling class.

And that is what The Dufus wants most of all, a seat at the top of the heap! Only one of those 4 nimrods can be booted out on his arse very quickly though!

[tomder55]

I always have my eye on China. Trump is only right in that we have some common interest with Russia that the democrats are clearly blind about .

[talaniman]

We are not blind to Russia or China Tom, though you make it seems so, rather we recognize engagement as a vital part of dealing with DICTATORS, TYRANTS and foreign crime bosses as a better option than full scale invasion to bring about regime change. The dollar is the big stick as well as the NUKES!

Your lying cheating dufus big mouth bully would well benefit from choosing his battles more discreetly, least he be caught out on the limb alone with his drawers down around his ankles, and deservedly so.

[paraclete]

Much as you want Trump to fail, it is in your interests that he succeed for he is the leader of the moment and failure is not an option

[Wondergirl]

Much as you want Trump to fail, it is in your interests that he succeed for he is the leader of the moment and failure is not an option

But that's all he's been doing -- failing!

[paraclete]

But that's all he's been doing -- failing!

Well, when your internal policies are dismantling, I can't see how you can mark him fail, he is advancing his agenda. However, in foreign policy there is a mixed bag and the conclusion I draw is the policy is confrontation and on that front he is also advancing

[Wondergirl]

He and his Swamp Creatures are dismantling policies that serve us and keep us safe.

[paraclete]

Maybe, but there are always two or more ways of looking at things. Not everything a government does serves the whole population and reducing onerous impositions is also the purpose of government as is imposing other impositions

[Wondergirl]

Maybe, but there are always two or more ways of looking at things. Not everything a government does serves the whole population and reducing onerous impositions is also the purpose of government as is imposing other impositions

Yep, two ways of looking at things -- the rich guys' way vs the rest of us.

[paraclete]

Always, it was ever so

[tomder55]

He and his Swamp Creatures are dismantling policies that serve us and keep us safe

it is your conclusion that they keep us safe . I think his best achievement to date is the dismantling of costly regulations that serve little or no purpose . He should also look at regulations being enacted by the bureaucracy currently . Yes indeed the swamp creatures still populate the regulatory state . Take this idiotic regulation the FDA is going to enforce about calling soy ,almond or any other non-dairy substitute "milk" .All our lives people who have purchased soy ,almond, coconut milk have known that they were not purchasing dairy milk . Yet the dairy industry successfully lobbied the FDA to make a regulatory ruling that branding those products as "milk" violates some kind of truth in labeling rules . It is a joke that is going to cost the taxpayers in this country $$$$$$$$$$ in enforcement and will burden the makers of these products to change their labeling needlessly . It's cr@p like that that has to be carved out of government one reg at a time. Now some loon may thing the impetus for this is for consumer safety .But we know the real reason behind this .Our country is notorious for making law and never reviewing the effectiveness, or the consequences of the results, or the REAL reasons the decisions were made . Don't believe me ? Ask Al Gore the truth behind ethanol regs .

“One of the reasons I made that mistake is that I paid particular attention to the farmers in my home state of Tennessee, and I had a certain fondness for the farmers in the state of Iowa because I was about to run for president.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...6AL3CN20101122

[paraclete]

Well of course there should be truth in labelling, milk is an animal product, that other stuff is something else, juice? Extract?