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    Oct 27, 2017, 05:14 PM
    Why are you posting media promos Tom?
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    Oct 28, 2017, 03:19 AM
    Same as my link Clete, but a different source. You probably need a prescription to read it.

    More Americans Are Carrying Handguns Than Ever Before – Mother Jones
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    Oct 28, 2017, 03:28 PM
    Just the facts Clete . 3 million legal gun carriers . Are they all mass murderers ? Mother Jones is goofy wrong . Gun violence is in the decline .
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.eccdf6322fb6
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    Oct 28, 2017, 06:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Just the facts Clete . 3 million legal gun carriers . Are they all mass murderers ? Mother Jones is goofy wrong . Gun violence is in the decline .
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.eccdf6322fb6
    So you think the more guns in possession of citizens the less gun violence? But our experience demonstrates the opposite, so we have to look elsewhere for answers. Could it be your rate of detention has something to do with it, less violent criminals on the streets? On perhaps it is a better educated society, but then it could just be statistical error, or dilution due to population growth, perhaps you passed out of the era where there was more mental illness due to PTSD arising from war, you could also corralate it with the war on drugs
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    Oct 29, 2017, 08:32 PM
    This is why you have effective gun laws

    Tamim Khaja pleads guilty to planning Sydney 'mass murder' terror attack - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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    Oct 30, 2017, 04:24 AM
    I think this was more about effective law enforcement than anything to do with gun control.
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    Oct 30, 2017, 05:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I think this was more about effective law enforcement than anything to do with gun control.
    No you miss it, he was impeded in his plan because he couldn't just walk into a store and buy a gun. Was he smart? Probably not, I don't think most of these jihadist types are smart. I don't doubt there were some in muslim community who could have provided him a weapon, but he can't be as open about it here as he could be in your society. Our law enforcement look for signs of radicalisation. When I was his age I owned a gun, long rifle, that wouldn't be permitted today
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    Oct 30, 2017, 05:49 AM
    Your link and the links in the story were unclear. We have established already that a lot of guns can be bought in your country. Your NSA was tipped off about this loony. Would anyone walking into a gun store to buy a gun be turned into the NSA as he was?
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    Oct 30, 2017, 02:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Your link and the links in the story were unclear. We have established already that a lot of guns can be bought in your country. Your NSA was tipped off about this loony. Would anyone walking into a gun store to buy a gun be turned into the NSA as he was?

    Possibly, the gun store owner might do some profiling of his own, there are a lot less of them here, and no gun shows to speak of. To buy a gun you have to go through police checks and have a good reason and be able to demonstrate you have a safe place to store it
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    Oct 30, 2017, 03:20 PM
    The damn fool should have gotten hooked up with the black market like any self respecting nefarious loony.
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    Oct 30, 2017, 07:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The damn fool should have gotten hooked up with the black market like any self respecting nefarious loony.
    Yes but our black market isn't as well developed, he probably would have needed to get involved with muslim bikies and they are more interested in drugs than jihad
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