[tomder55]

the Ruskies lost 5,000 just crossing a common border. An air lift out involves cooperation with Putin and leaving a lot of equipment behind . As you know ,the emperor is not really in speaking terms with Vladdy these days . That reset button is stuck on stupid.

Pakistan has begun an offensive against militants which will force many over the border, pity they hadn't done it long ago but they know that with the US target out of the picture they need to be more proactive.

Their ISI runs the Haqqani network so I doubt they are doing a major offensive against them. They will instead aim at targets that are a direct threat to the Pakis ;not the US or Afghanistan gvt. So any "successful " offensive will be of limited value.

Finally ,the idea of a Paki hammer and coalition forces anvil may have been successful when the coalition was at full strength . But the forces left are too small to prevent the escape of the militants through the porous Afghan border. In fact ,the Pakis left plenty of time before executing this offensive for the bulk of the jihadi's to escape.

[paraclete]

Tom the americans always seem to leave equipment behind so sell the afghans those worn out recycled tanks and what's a few trucks anyway you are not giving away any secrets by leaving them, you forget the battleground has changed and the drone is on the frontline. It just takes logistics to get the men out and you are good at moving stuff around

[tomder55]

I assure you that the emperor is looking for safe passage out ;and this type of ransom is right up his alley . The emperor also wants to empty Gitmo ;so expect to see more of these one sided deals.

[paraclete]

you are just chuffed because someone looks like they got a better deal, you might try seeing it from a different view, these men are no longer your problem and you have yet to see whether they are anyone's problem afterall you get no marks for being caught when you are part of a terrorist organisation

[tomder55]

these men are no longer your problem

they will get a heroes welcome and assume their place in the command structure . And yes they are our problem As we found out ;we can't assume that things that take place in the outlands of the world will not have a direct impact on us.

[paraclete]

They spent ten years in detention in a place worse than the worst supermax prison and for the most part all they were doing was defending their country, Tom you really need to get some perspective, there are worse things that have not been prosectured

[tomder55]

worse than the worst supermax prison

it was Club GITMO . They were served good food and have gotten superior health care than our Vets get from the VA

[talaniman]

I don't think any of that is accurate.

[tomder55]

VA Gives Gitmo Terrorists Better Medical Care Than U.S. Veterans | Judicial Watch

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=43686

[talaniman]

Get more doctors for regular citizens especially vets, and close gitmo. DUH!! Naw, we can't process them to a regular supermax prison, we just can't do that!!!!!!!!!!!!

[paraclete]

it was Club GITMO . They were served good food and have gotten superior health care than our Vets get from the VA

propaganda but if it is true you as nation need to hang your heads in shame and give back to those who gave it for you. I've seen the pictures, men in cages and legirons, in heavy clothing in a tropical place. If you think GITMO is humane you need to spend a lot of time in reflection.

[Catsmine]

Get more doctors for regular citizens especially vets

How? You planning on dictating which specialty a Med School grad takes? Or were you going to "reassign" specialists from EENT to head trauma and PTSD? That's the problem with all your schemes, Commissar. Individuals have no place in them.

[paraclete]

medicine used to be a caring profession now it's just money so you want to get doctors into these places pay them

[tomder55]

we can't process them

to a regular supermax prison, we just can't do that!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are illegal combatants not subject the civilian prosecution ..duh!! we can't have military tribunals ,we just can't do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[talaniman]

The goal is to lock 'em up! The feds do it very well. IT WORKS, no matter the titles. They wouldn't be enemy combatants if you stop sending armies into their country.

But I don't expect you to acknowledge your(OUR) part in cause and effect.

[tomder55]

so in other words we should not have invaded Afghanistan after 9-11 ?

[talaniman]

Going after terrorists who attacked us was fine, until we ran to Iraq on dumb sh!t that has proved to be dumb sh1t as even Meagan Kelly on Fox says was some dumb sh1t right to Cheney's face.

I give her credit for doing it.

[tomder55]

but we are talking about Taliban and AQ detainees ;not Iraqis . They've never been detained at GITMO .

[talaniman]

We got the guy who attacked us and blew the taliban who harbored him to hell, mission over time to come home and move beyond this and let the afghans/pakistanis and any other tribe in between deal with their own sh1t.

[tomder55]

AQ is an organization not an individual. They are as big a threat to us today as they were in 2001 . The Taliban is not destroyed .Where do you get that from ? What you are really saying is that we concede . Here's the leaders we captured . Please don't attack us again...