[NeedKarma]

actually a patois

We call it "joual" <Québécois here>. That's typical of for the worker language, the educated folks speak more "proper: French. Marois will likely be defeated so the whole cycle will continue.

[tomder55]

Yes our Euro 'allies' are a problem . But if we were fracking and giving them an alternative to being beholden to Russia for natural gas ,maybe they would grow some spine.

[paraclete]

you couldn't produce enough gas from fracking and the ability to transfer gas in that volume would take years to develop. If there is a crisis they would need a solution in six months, so no joy there. Take a look at the map of Ukraine and the number of pipelines into Europe. Any conflict will bring Europe to a standstill. The Russians know this, thus the move to secure a gas asset

[tomder55]

also they want the West Ukraine lands where the shale deposits are located . You see ;while the US gvt blocks efforts to drill ,the rest of the world is full speed ahead .

[talaniman]

LOL, with actual production rising here Tom, you think we need to drill baby drill. Relax, we're just going to burn it up anyway. ALL OF IT!!

[tomder55]

LOL, with actual production rising here Tom,

No thanks to the emperor . We could be the Saudi Arabia of natural gas if our leaders would act to make it so.

[paraclete]

pipe dreams

[talaniman]

You don't like emperors, but want to be a sheik who hoards all the loot in his country? What's this "we" sh1t kimosabe?

[paraclete]

he has dillusions of grandeur and former glories, it happens in empires during decline

[earl237]

It's good that Russia was suspended from the G8. I wonder if they could be suspended from the UN security council too, they would lose their veto over UN resolutions. That would send a message to Putin.

[paraclete]

This is a storm in a teacup it will all blow over once the righteous outrage is exhausted

[tomder55]

no it won't because it won't end there any more than it ended with Putin carving up Georgia.

[smoothy]

Obama should really be happy... him and Putin are BFF's.

[paraclete]

Tom Georgia is the same argument Putin used in Crimea so your thinking is east of the Dniepnr is Russian territory and Putin will risk everything. He doesn't have the backing of the population in that region, language is one thing and ethnicity is another. These people have long memories, they remember the Russian invader just as they remember the German invader, why do you think the term nazi has arisen again? What is a real problem here is Kyiv is considered sacred ground by the Russians

[tomder55]

State Dept gets tough with Putin. I'm sure this selfie will turn the tide :

[paraclete]

sorry, I don't get it

[tomder55]

I'll let an Aussie publication explain it to you
Uproar over senior US official Jen Psaki's 'selfie' support for Ukraine | News.com.au

[paraclete]

Yeh like that will be effective

[NeedKarma]

That's not a selfie. Huh, old fogies. LOL

[tomder55]

Russia raised the price of gas to Ukraine. Time to fast track US exports to Europe.
NATO Orders End to Cooperation With Russia - ABC News