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    mogrann Posts: 860, Reputation: 193
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    Nov 12, 2013, 12:08 PM
    Broken sewer pipe
    We have had plumbers out from the landlord and then the city. Both are saying collapsed pipe. We have been told no water usage and no toilet usage.

    Landlord is saying he needs to screen contractors as the basement needs to be dug out and pipe found and replaced. He said he is unsure how long.

    Is this legal? What so we do for bathroom, eating, showering and laundry? Does anyone know how long a fix can take?

    House is 100 years old cement basement. City could not get auger any further than 4meters. They did being in something to try to blow ?it out. That did not work either.
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    Nov 12, 2013, 01:24 PM
    Hi Mogrann

    A video inspection of the drain is the first thing to have done at this point... although expensive, it should pinpoint location/distance from the cleanout and expedite the process of repairing the break in the pipe. Time to fix this will be determined by how much pipe will be replaced.

    Next thing that should be done is for you to ask your landlord what he wants you to do. Does he want to bring in a port-a-potty (yuck and doesn't resolve issues like showering), does he want you to go to a hotel (you take the hotel rental of the next month's rent, or is he hoping you can room with family near by (this would not be reasonable)?

    Obviously, you need a toilet... ;)

    Back to you...

    Mark
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    Nov 12, 2013, 01:32 PM
    The city said too much water in drain for camera? I hope I get terminology right. They were ones saying no water they were here 1.5 hours. Also hotel won't work as we have pets. Right now I am doing dishes in a plastic tub and dumping water outside Bunking with family would be OK of we were on other side of Canada. Hoping he calls us back soon.
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    Nov 12, 2013, 01:42 PM
    There are plenty of pet friendly hotels, or you could leave a pet (or two or three) at home or with friends and pretty much use the hotel only at night...

    Just thinkin' aloud... ;)
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    Nov 13, 2013, 05:26 PM
    Update and just more questions in my mind:

    The plumbers came out and tried to put a camera in but too much water as the city had said. They then tried to drain the water but found more came in as they drained it. Henry said this was a company (not a fly by night operation) like a franchese. They are perplexed and said they will be back FRIDAY with a jackhammer to dig up and see what is happening.
    We are allowed to use water.. but very limited. Flushing toilet only when necessary. Washing dishes in plastic tubs and putting water outside. Showering as quickly as possible. (less than 5 min).
    I was not here when plumbers were so I am repeating what hubby said.
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    Nov 13, 2013, 06:44 PM
    Perhaps, your landlord is not approaching this problem the proper way. Small plumbing contractor may be more responsible - and knowledgeable - than those franchise companies. Franchises have high employee turn-around so chances are you are talking to a "kid" who is relatively new employee and has very limited knowledge of the trade. Just bcs he is wearing shirt with several patches attached to it doesn't mean he knows what he is talking about. Call a self-employed, licensed, plumber, who is in business for long time. I bet you he can get you back on track in one day. Also he may be lot less expensive that franchise company. At least, that's true in my area. Good luck. Let us know how it went. Milo
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    Dec 10, 2013, 09:21 AM
    UPDATE

    Finally the landlord has signed the papers and the plumbers are here.
    They dug up the spot in the basement. And can not find the pipe as it is full of water. They are draining the water now and the house stinks. Buckets upon buckets of nasty sewer water is being brought up.

    I need to know what health risks there would be to having a leaking sewer pipe in a basement. The plumbers have said there is missing a large section of pipe and they are unsure if it is even connected to the city's pipes. They are still searching.
    Henry and I used the basement for our bedroom for 3 years. I have asthma, with allergies. Do we need to check with our family doctor or is it just the ick factor of breathing in the sewage? The plumbers have said the sewage has sat under the floor for awhile.
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    Dec 10, 2013, 03:14 PM
    I'm going to go with the "ick factor" here.

    As long as the sewer pipes were covered by dirt and cement I don't think there is any real health related issues to be concerned with... yucky, but not going to cause asthma or aggravate it, or it would have a long time ago... ;)

    Note also, that these plumbers are giving their opinion... don't exactly take that as gospel. I've seen a whole lot of plumbers get over excited and make a big deal only to have the owner of the plumbing company show up (with way more experience) and present a different story, you know?

    Anyway, it sounds like they are fixing things and will be removing all the yucky stuff, so you will probably be just fine after all this.

    Mark
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    Dec 10, 2013, 04:45 PM
    They are coming back tomorrow with another crew as well as the guys that are here now. They need a backhoe as there is a blockage somewhere outside.
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    Dec 10, 2013, 05:39 PM
    Just talked to them myself. What they are going to do is dig a hole to the city's pipes and then with a cone force the old pipes to the cities. Then lay pipe down in the new hole. Hope I explained that right . Will be an all day event

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