[smoothy]

But he had help, you can't just blame him

He might have had help ( I agree he wasn't alone in this)... but as the top guy... the buck stops with him... just like every other business or enterprise out there.

[paraclete]

He might have had help ( I agree he wasn't alone in this)... but as the top guy... the buck stops with him... just like every other business or enterprise out there.

So fire him, give him a golden parachute

[smoothy]

so fire him, give him a golden parachute

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi still have shrines in their offices and worship him.

[paraclete]

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi still have shrines in their offices and worship him.

Yes but it is transient, they used to say that there was a shine to me once in my old office but we all move on, all those true believers are long gone and I suspect it is the same for BO. You can only do so much, and then what you have done is swept away by the tide

[speechlesstx]

How did we shop for insurance before the ACA? Google still works in every state. Just Google "Health insurance in >insert state, or zip code< " Walahhhh! Comparisons.

For a fee, I will do it for you.

How generous of you.

[smoothy]

Yes but it is transient, they used to say that there was a shine to me once in my old office but we all move on, all those true believers are long gone and I suspect it is the same for BO. you can only do so much, and then what you have done is swept away by the tide

True... given enough time all those details will be forgotten and he'll simply be remembered as "that incomptetant boob"... much like Jimmy Carter is remembered. Assuming they remember anything at all... and isn't simply forgotten like so many other ex presidents who never had any notible accomplishments to rememebr.

[tomder55]

Top Ten Indicators Your Employer Has Changed To The Obamacare Health Care Plan.

(10) Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters.

(9) Directions to your doctor's office include
"Take a left when you enter the trailer park."

(8) The tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudgesicles.

(7) The only proctologist in the plan is "Gus"
From Roto-Rooter.

(6) The only item listed under Preventative Care Coverage is
"an apple a day."

(5) Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you
Gave to Goodwill last month.

(4) "The patient is responsible for 200% of out-of-network
charges," is not a typographical error.

(3) The only expense covered 100% is... "Embalming."

(2) Your Prozac comes in different colors with little
M's on them.

(1) You ask for Viagra and they give you a Popsicle stick
And duct tape.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by
letting the government take care of him, better take a
closer look at the American Indian."- Henry Ford

[smoothy]

Top Ten Indicators Your Employer Has Changed To The Obamacare Health Care Plan.

(10) Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters.

(9) Directions to your doctor's office include
"Take a left when you enter the trailer park."

(8) The tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudgesicles.

(7) The only proctologist in the plan is "Gus"
from Roto-Rooter.

(6) The only item listed under Preventative Care Coverage is
"an apple a day."

(5) Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you
gave to Goodwill last month.

(4) "The patient is responsible for 200% of out-of-network
charges," is not a typographical error.

(3) The only expense covered 100% is..."Embalming."

(2) Your Prozac comes in different colors with little
M's on them.

(1) You ask for Viagra and they give you a Popsicle stick
and duct tape.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by
letting the government take care of him, better take a
closer look at the American Indian."- Henry Ford

Good one... got a good laugh out of reading that.

[speechlesstx]

It just keeps getting better and better for the emperor...

Rude Awakening for Federal Way Woman Who Got Shout-Out From President - Can't Afford Obamacare Policy After All

After Jessica Sanford Sends Fan Letter to Obama for Making Insurance Affordable, State Says She Must Pay Full Ticket

[tomder55]

Sen Marco Rubio explains in WSJ that HHS plans on bailing out the insurance companies by manipulating the so called “risk corridor” provisions of the law once the emperor's reversal of insurance cancelations starts to create big losses for insurers.
Marco Rubio: No Bailouts for ObamaCare - WSJ.com
So now the taxpayer gets triple wacked . First by the Medicaid expansion ;Second by the exchange subsidies ,and now with the risk corridor bailout to the insurance companies .

While risk corridors can protect taxpayers when they are budget-neutral, ObamaCare's risk corridors are designed in such an open-ended manner that the president's action now exposes taxpayers to a bailout of the health-insurance industry if and when the law fails.

Subsequent regulatory rulings have made clear that the administration views this risk-corridor authority as a blank check, requiring no further consultation or approval by Congress. A final rule handed down in March by HHS and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services states: “Regardless of the balance of payments and receipts, HHS will remit payments as required under section 1342 of the Affordable Care Act.”

On Nov. 14, the American Academy of Actuaries issued a press release saying that President Obama's plan to reverse health-insurance cancellations “could lead to negative consequences for consumers, health insurers, and the federal government.” More specifically, the academy said, “Costs to the federal government could increase as higher-than-expected average medical claims are more likely to trigger risk corridor payments.”

It is a damning indictment of ObamaCare's viability when the president's only response to people losing their health insurance plans entails putting them on the hook for bailing out insurance companies.

[speechlesstx]

So, how's that website coming along? According to CMS tech officer Henry Chao, 30-40% of the site still needs to be built. That would include the payment system. That much was never even developed prior to the launch date.

“It’s not that it’s not working,” Chao told lawmakers at an Energy and Commerce oversight subcommittee hearing. “It’s still being developed and tested.”

Read more: Tech chief: 40% Obamacare work left - POLITICO.com

Not exactly building confidence in their signature 'accomplishment' or regime competence. Maybe that's why the emperor and other Dems quit referring to it as Obamacare?

[paraclete]

Setting deadlines and meeting deadlines are two different things, in poli speak we have the imperative, borrowed from fiction, make it so. In most cases they won't be held to account for delays, but they had years to get this right and apparently no fall back position

[talaniman]

Don't fall for the right wing gloom and doom Clete, they hate the pie in the oven before they taste it, because they hate the chef, and are content with serving up the crap sandwiches they have gotten use to.

The old system left 47million without, and they want to keep that system. Make any sense to you?

[speechlesstx]

Setting deadlines and meeting deadlines are two different things,

Of course. One might wonder how you plan on taking payment for your purchase before launching the endeavor. So of those 50,000 who've managed to enroll on the exchange site how many do you suppose have actually bought their plan?

[paraclete]

Don't fall for the right wing gloom and doom Clete, they hate the pie in the oven before they taste it, because they hate the chef, and are content with serving up the crap sandwiches they have gotten use to.

The old system left 47million without, and they want to keep that system. Make any sense to you?

Tal the problem could have been solved simply, but no, It had to have the grand gesture

[paraclete]

Of course. One might wonder how you plan on taking payment for your purchase before launching the endeavor. So of those 50,000 who've managed to enroll on the exchange site how many do you suppose have actually bought their plan?

From the rhetoric I expect that a large number have a problem or several problems the least of which maybe whether they have cover or not

[talaniman]

The opposition makes it a grand gesture, so they can kill it. The wingers here make you aware they hate everything, and criticize to no end what anyone does, and blames everybody else for things not being perfect.

Surely you have noticed that very pronounced pattern in every thread on this forum?

[paraclete]

Surely you have noticed that very pronounced pattern in every thread on this forum?

What I have noted is a perspensity to rhetoric and exaggeration

This ACA has become a focal point for criticism. It is apparently poorly designed and poorly implemented.

[talaniman]

Yeah that's what the wingers say. Truth is the data shows states that have been actually working it have shown increased success. The ones that fight and obstruct by doing nothing are having problems. Sure the website is not 100%, but that's only the window dressing as far as the law working is concerned.

In my own state which fights tooth and nail, to deny million any heath care, the legislature and the hospitals are going around the governor to get those federal dollars for the state.

I keep telling you about listening to the whiners. Can't you Google your own facts from Australia? I tell the wingers all the time get the whole story, and not just the hollering points from their favorite right wing rag.

[smoothy]

Even the Washington comPost today, 11/19/2013 is claiming their poll (likely of registered Democrats) show 57 % of the people are opposed to Obamacare...

Other real polls show even more people are opposed to it.