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    #1181

    Oct 15, 2013, 05:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Ex you know that without the single payer option you have to have someone in play,
    Why because in a single payer system no one pays ? What a fantasy !
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    #1182

    Oct 15, 2013, 05:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55
    Why because in a single payer system no one pays ?
    I don't understand, can you expand on that.
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    #1183

    Oct 17, 2013, 01:33 PM
    It appears HHS stole the software for Glitchapalooza.

    Not sure why the owners of the copyright would want to take credit, but still, the federal government can't just take what it wants.
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    #1184

    Oct 17, 2013, 02:50 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It appears HHS stole the software for Glitchapalooza.

    Not sure why the owners of the copyright would want to take credit, but still, the federal government can't just take what it wants.
    I wonder where all the money went to make the thing in the first place? I haven't heard anyone talking about it yet but for the money spent it should have been flawless.
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    #1185

    Oct 17, 2013, 02:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    I wonder where all the money went to make the thing in the first place? I haven't heard anyone talking about it yet but for the money spent it should have been flawless.
    I read that the budget tripled this year and what we got was a site that wasn't even tested until this month.
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    #1186

    Oct 17, 2013, 02:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Why because in a single payer system no one pays ? What a fantasy !
    That's not right Tom we have a single payer system and a copayment is demanded by doctors in some instances, but all this hooha at the bottom reaches of the system you are experiencing are avoided. I have been over this ground before but you reject the obvious on ideological grounds, a single payer system can work without destroying competition
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    #1187

    Oct 17, 2013, 04:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    I wonder where all the money went to make the thing in the first place? I haven't heard anyone talking about it yet but for the money spent it should have been flawless.
    here was a no-bid contract with Obama contributors who were fired by Canadian gvt. (CGI Group)
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    #1188

    Oct 18, 2013, 05:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    here was a no-bid contract with Obama contributors who were fired by Canadian gvt. (CGI Group)
    And the website design firm was Teal Media, formed by a former Obama campaign staffer, which just pulled it's Healthcare.gov credit from their site.

    Design Firm Removes All Reference To Its Work On Obamacare From Its Website

    They've since restored it although I can't imagine why. Why are we giving it to insiders, donors and outsourcing it to Canada - especially if they aren't up to the task?
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    #1189

    Oct 18, 2013, 05:07 AM
    Hello again,

    You DIDN'T have to shut the government down and cost the US $24 BILLION.. All you had to do was wait for THIS fiasco.. But, NOOOOOO, you had to put us $24 BILLION further in debt..

    Good job, right wingers..

    excon
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    #1190

    Oct 18, 2013, 07:45 AM
    Sky high prices,deductibles that scare off just about everyone that can get through the broken website and now :

    Insurers say the federal health-care marketplace is generating flawed data that is straining their ability to handle even the trickle of enrollees who have gotten through so far, in a sign that technological problems extend further than the website traffic and software issues already identified.

    Emerging errors include duplicate enrollments, spouses reported as children, missing data fields and suspect eligibility determinations, say executives at more than a dozen health plans

    Obamacare woes widen as insurers get wrong data - MarketWatch
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    #1191

    Oct 18, 2013, 07:55 AM
    The biggest thing plaguing Obamacare isn't the computer code .It's the "code " written into the legislation and the regulatory "code " that now reaches into the 10s of thousands pf pages .
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    #1192

    Oct 18, 2013, 08:01 AM
    Everything about it is a disaster.
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    #1193

    Oct 18, 2013, 11:29 AM
    Interesting article by the Canadian Free Press.

    A Criminal Enterprise Called the Democratic Party
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    #1194

    Oct 18, 2013, 11:35 AM
    The Canadian Free Press is anything but Canadian or free. Do a little research about them.

    Here is some other interesting reading from actual Canadian press:
    U.S. shutdown climbdown: the 'triumph' of the Republican surrender monkeys - CBC News - Latest Canada, World, Entertainment and Business News
    The comments below the story are telling as well.
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    #1195

    Oct 18, 2013, 11:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The Canadian Free Press is anything but Canadian or free. Do a little research about them.

    Here is some other interesting reading from actual Canadian press:
    U.S. shutdown climbdown: the 'triumph' of the Republican surrender monkeys - CBC News - Latest Canada, World, Entertainment and Business News
    The comments below the story are telling as well.
    Just because you are a socialist... doesn't make everyone else in Canada a socialist.

    Socialists will tell any lie to further their agenda...right out of Sol Alinsky's Rules for Radicals...and why lefties can't be trused to walk your dog, or anything else.
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    #1196

    Oct 18, 2013, 11:43 AM
    Just because you are a socialist.
    You're funny. Was that supposed to be an insult? And how did you come to that conclusion from my post?
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    #1197

    Oct 18, 2013, 11:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You're funny. Was that supposed to be an insult? And how did you come to that conclusion from my post?
    How is it an Insult if you embrace it?


    I come to that conclusion not by your post in this thread... but by your posts in most threads.
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    #1198

    Oct 18, 2013, 12:45 PM
    Ok, thanks.
    Try to lower your blood pressure this weekend.
    I gots to go socialize. :)

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