[talaniman]

Yes, by all means we need liberal idiots to label us all. And I thought libs hated profiling. This is stupid and irresponsible, not to mention 'extremely' divisive.

Some of you guy with guns are dangerous, and kill people. Need a link to Kaufman Co. TX?

[speechlesstx]

Some of you guy with guns are dangerous, and kill people. Need a link to Kaufman Co., TX?

Just what do I have to do with what happened in Kaufman? You trying to link me with extremists like our own government keeps trying to do?

[talaniman]

Stop being sensitive and defensive. Stop taking it personal and about YOU. I personally don't associate YOU with a right wing extremist group.

[speechlesstx]

Stop being sensitive and defensive. Stop taking it personal and about YOU. I personally don't associate YOU with a right wing extremist group.

"You guys" is personal my friend.

[speechlesstx]

Since you libs don't seem concerned about the media blackout of the year, how about some relevant news in the “war on wimmen” mentioned in this thread? VA's Republican governor signed legislation with bipartisan support requiring abortion clinics be regulated more like hospitals and surgery centers.

Gov. Robert F. McDonnell (R) has approved health regulations that impose strict, hospital-style building codes on Virginia abortion clinics

McDonnell's decision to certify the regulations, made without public announcement Friday, was publicized by an abortion-rights group Monday. His approval was expected and is not the final word on the matter, but it triggers the next step in a review process expected to conclude in March with a final vote by the Virginia Board of Health.

After one the most contentious debates of the 2011 General Assembly session, legislators voted to regulate abortion clinics like outpatient surgical centers. It fell to the health board to implement the new rules, which call for costly physical renovations, such as widening hallways and doorways, that some clinic officials say could put them out of business.

Predictably NARAL is outraged.

“After two years of shocking backroom deals and bullying public health servants, Governor Bob McDonnell is clearly proving his disregard of Virginians' opinions about women's health care,” Tarina Keene, executive director of the group, said in the e-mail.

I'm just guessing here, but ensuring women don't become victims as in Delaware and PA, where the turning a blind eye to the neglect of women's health and safety was “by design”, by requiring clean, safe facilities is a war on women. Am I right?

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

Never heard of TRAP laws?? It's targeted regulation of abortion providers. Read about it here. It's NOT about health and safety.. It's about ending abortion..

excon

[tomder55]

Interesting twist . A liberal that doesn't want regulation.

[speechlesstx]

interesting twist . a liberal that doesn't want regulation.

Mixed messages.

[speechlesstx]

Ex, ever heard of MURDER and abuse of women and children? Talk about a trap, a death trap. Read about it here

[talaniman]

"You guys" is personal my friend.

No you, or you guy, is personal, the "s" makes guys collective, as in more that just YOU. OOOPs, typo, my bad.

I know you will be shocked but I think standards should be high for any clinic, but a reasonable time to get them up to standards is also expected as well as in the case of doctors having admitting privilege in case of emergencies which is crap by the way since its an emergency. Non resident doctors seldom get admitting privileges, though their patients are seldom turned away.

Its like the voter ID thing I agree with and you GUYS have confirmed yet again your implementation SUCKS, so I can only conclude the real goal is furthering an agenda that victimizes, destroys rights, and isn't purely on health, and safety.

Strange for guys who don't want change but rather change back instead. Just be honest. HMMM, maybe its not so strange for you guyS.

[smoothy]

In VIrginia they have been talking about raising the standards for several years now... it wasn't something they came out with last week.

And besides.. the state has a right and a vested interest in controlling such thiings... as they do for restaurants... and hospitals.

See... I live in Virginia... I know for a fact its been discussed and fought for the last several years... because its been on the local news and papers for that long. They ALL knew it was coming and had years to prepare for it.

[speechlesstx]

No you, or you guy, is personal, the "s" makes guys collective, as in more that just YOU. OOOPs, typo, my bad.

I know you will be shocked but I think standards should be high for any clinic, but a reasonable time to get them up to standards is also expected as well as in the case of doctors having admitting privilege in case of emergencies which is crap by the way since its an emergency. Non resident doctors seldom get admitting privileges, though their patients are seldom turned away.

Its like the voter ID thing I agree with and you GUYS have confirmed yet again your implementation SUCKS, so I can only conclude the real goal is furthering an agenda that victimizes, destroys rights, and isn't purely on health, and safety.

Strange for guys who don't want change but rather change back instead. Just be honest. HMMM, maybe its not so strange for you guyS.

Ah, so what exactly is an acceptable timetable to ensure women's health is protected in an abortion clinic?

[talaniman]

I don't know as that's a local thing but a month or too to change a whole structure is unreasonable and impossible don't you think? I mean it may take 30 days to even take bids or get estimates to widen more than one door way. What if there are 6? MORE?

I think you are trying to justify catching people up in a new rule you just made up. Funny coming from someone that can do nothing about murdered kids at schools and neighborhoods except holler about YOUR rights. You defend some babies but not others.

Your moral outrage seems to be limited to the scope of your prejudice.

[smoothy]

I don't know as that's a local thing but a month or too to change a whole structure is unreasonable and impossible don't you think? I mean it may take 30 days to even take bids or get estimates to widen more than one door way. What if there are 6? MORE?

I think you are trying to justify catching people up in a new rule you just made up. Funny coming from someone that can do nothing about murdered kids at schools and neighborhoods except holler about YOUR rights. You defend some babies but not others.

Your moral outrage seems to be limited to the scope of your prejudice.

THe fact is it wasn't a month or two (which is nothing but propaganda)... its been several YEARS they knew it was coming.

[speechlesstx]

I don't know as that's a local thing but a month or too to change a whole structure is unreasonable and impossible don't you think? I mean it may take 30 days to even take bids or get estimates to widen more than one door way. What if there are 6? MORE?

I think you are trying to justify catching people up in a new rule you just made up. Funny coming from someone that can do nothing about murdered kids at schools and neighborhoods except holler about YOUR rights. You defend some babies but not others.

Your moral outrage seems to be limited to the scope of your prejudice.

You're projecting, tal. It isn't pretty.

[talaniman]

Just calling it like I see it.

[smoothy]

You're projecting, tal. It isn't pretty.

Not to mention how HIS side is trying to force the rest of us to pay for 14 year old ho's to get free abortion on denand every few months because condoms and birth control are too much of an effort... and anything else.. WITHOUT the parents right to know or decide.

[tomder55]

Funny coming from someone that can do nothing about murdered kids at schools and neighborhoods except holler about YOUR rights.

As I recall we offered some 'common sense ' solutions to kids getting killed at school.

[smoothy]

I haven't see any consistancy from the left calling for knife registration and liscensing... and mandatory background checks before someone is allowed to have a sharp object... since the stabbing spree by yet another mentally unballanced lefty.

[speechlesstx]

Just calling it like I see it.

Need some new glasses?