[paraclete]

U.S. drops the ball on women's rights - CNN.com

It seems the US is indeed conducting a war on women which places it in the same league as the restrictive society of Iran, and why, because instead of acknowledging gains endorsed by most of the world, it is a hold out for some utopian view, what are you afraid of america?

Or is it you just want to be different?

[tomder55]

Yeah we should jump on board the UN law to legalize abortion worldwide.. . and you are for it Clete ? They have directed 37 countries to change their laws on abortion .They bring international pressure to strike down parental notification laws, to strike down laws against partial birth abortion, to strike down any law on abortion drugs like RU-486.
They are putting pressure on China to legalize prostitution .They criticized Belarus for establishing Mother's Day because they said Mother's Day promotes 'a negative cultural stereotype.' They criticized Ireland for allowing the Catholic Church to have too great a say in public policy. That's the treaty you want us to ratify ?
Funny that most of the Muslim world have ratified the treaty ,and yet would never do what the CEDAW treaty mandates (and the committee specifically directed Libya to do);the reinterpretation of religious text like the Koran . Would you tolerate an international organization of nameless faceless bureaucrats demanding that the text of the bible be changed to satisfy their PC sensibilities ? Good for you... You can live under this gross violation of religious rights and national sovereignty . All I had to do was see who signed the treaty (Jimmy Carter ) to know there was a good reason it was never ratified.

[speechlesstx]

I see no reason to cede our sovereingty to the UN, or for that matter support much of anything that comes out of that feckless wasteland.

Plus, for the author to close with believing the US is still the best place for women her protests ring hollow.

[paraclete]

I really don't know why you guys are members of the UN

[speechlesstx]

I'd just as soon we weren't and as suggested earlier, move the whole damn thing to Riyadh... or better yet Tehran, where they should feel right at home.

[tomder55]

Where they comply fully with the provision of cedaw

[speechlesstx]

Isn't Iran on the UN's women council?

[paraclete]

Iran is not a member of CEDAW This is why is is unusual to see the US align itself with the attitudes of Iran.

[tomder55]

But Egypt is ;where genital mutilation of women is a common practice. It' s bs to say women's rights in the US don't measure up to world standards just because we don't ratify this silly UN treaty. China signed it ;and China routinely has gender select abortions so they won't have too many daughters. So spare us this faux outrage

[speechlesstx]

http://www.un.org/womenwatch/daw/csw...Membership.pdf

[paraclete]

It' s bs to say women's rights in the US don't measure up to world standards just because we don't ratify this silly UN treaty.

I don't think that's what is being said Tom but you know you can't win the argument if you don't have a seat at the table, it's like the climate change treaty, off you went into the sunset doing your own thing, because to join the rest of us meant you might have to comply with someoneelse's idea, when in fact everyone was doing their own thing anyway.

Fact is we know the UN is 99% aspiration but nothing will ever happen unless someone decides to actually do it, and the signal you send is; this isn't important and that is irrespective of whether you have a high standard or not

[tomder55]

I'm more that happy to sign on to responsible treaty. CEDAW and Kyoto don't meet that standard .

[paraclete]

Who are you to judge these matters, what you are really saying is that it just doesn't suit you because you know when you ratify a treaty it becomes binding

[tomder55]

Yes ,but I don't think being bound by those treaties is a good thing .

[speechlesstx]

I think the UN should look to China as their champion of women's right, where they just reported (and probably a low number) 336 million abortions under their one child policy. I'm guessing a disproportionate number of those casualties were female. Now THAT's a war on women.

[Wondergirl]

I think the UN should look to China as their champion of women's right, where they just reported (and probably a low number) 336 million abortions under their one child policy. I'm guessing a disproportionate number of those casualties were female. Now THAT's a war on women.

China is also realizing all those boy babies have grown up and will grow up have no one to marry.

[speechlesstx]

China is also realizing all those boy babies have grown up and will grow up have no one to marry.

And they're running out of workers.

[tomder55]

China is also realizing all those boy babies have grown up and will grow up have no one to marry.

They have a solution to that... the growing belligerence of their military imposing it's will on their neighbors.

[Wondergirl]

They have a solution to that .....the growing belligerence of their military imposing it's will on their neighbors.

That means stealing young women to become brides for its sons?

[tomder55]

Possibly... But they are just becoming aggressive expansionist lately . They are investing a lot of money in developing a blue water navy ,and space militarization . They built high speed rail east toward Tibet and Xinjiang. More than 100 Tibettans have self immolated in protest .(not that our press ever notices ) They are looking to complete their take over of those nation. They are seizing Japanese and Phillipinne Islands for the mineral rights. They are moving towards complete hegemony over the South China and East China seas. They still have designs on Taiwan . Even Vietnam is concerned enough to consider joint defense options with the United States . Periodically there are unreported incursions into India .The China-India border may be the second-most dangerous frontier in Asia after the DMZ separating North and South Korea... even more dangerous than India -Pakistan.