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    #21

    Feb 26, 2013, 05:44 PM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Ah, so Obama was just bluffing.
    What part of EVERYBODY passed the bill don't you understand??

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    #22

    Feb 26, 2013, 05:50 PM
    His strategery is fundamentally flawed.
    If he wants a 2nd term and a legacy he better start learning to like dealing with the Repubics. That or he'll be remembered as the president who presided over an 8 year recession.
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    #23

    Feb 26, 2013, 05:58 PM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Can this administration possibly be any more shameless and derelict?
    You guys DO have a problem with math, don't you?? Suffice to say, you believe that even though we're going to spend LESS on stuff, you expect the SAME level of service... And, when you don't get it, it's Obama's fault..

    Only in right wing world is this true..

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    #24

    Feb 26, 2013, 06:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    his strategery is fundamentally flawed.
    if he wants a 2nd term and a legacy he better start learning to like dealing with the Repubics. That or he'll be remembered as the president who presided over an 8 year recession.
    As long as you remember who started the recession/depression, thing is, Tom, despite the pretensions the president isn't God, he can't wave his hand and it all goes away, but it is good you have someone with a heart during such a period. Just remember your job creators have done nothing to lift you out of recession/depression

    Now what I have seen so far is you have blamed him for the mortgage crisis, you have blamed him for the bailout, you have blamed him for giving more americans health insurance and you want to blame him because the republican captains of industry won't get off their buts. Be thankful it is not a totalatarian state or they would all have been shot
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    #25

    Feb 27, 2013, 04:13 AM
    republican captains of industry
    lol ,Amazing how New York and the major industrial centers vote consistently Democrat. Amazing how Obama got the majority of corporate contributions in the last 2 Presidential cycle.

    Regardless of when the recession started ;the truth is that his policies have sucked ,and do suck . If he continues down this path we are destined for a decade long recession with brief periods of sluggish recovery.
    You talk about national socialist health care as if it's a good thing. I remind you that Italy went from a prosperous nation to a basket case that has a GDP/debt ratio over 100% after they instituted their national health care system in 1978 . Now they have a cast of clowns competing for the right to run their country completely into collapse. The United States should look at them as the canary in the coal mine.
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    #26

    Feb 27, 2013, 06:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    You guys DO have a problem with math, don't you??? Suffice to say, you believe that even though we're going to spend LESS on stuff, you expect the SAME level of service... And, when you don't get it, it's Obama's fault..

    Only in right wing world is this true..

    excon
    Republicans aren't releasing illegals for political theatre. And I repeat, if Dingy Harry had done his job and passed a budget there would be no sequester, period.

    My math, my history and grasp of reality are fine.
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    Feb 27, 2013, 08:01 AM
    Your grasp of reality is skewed to far right literally and precludes alternatives and other options you just don't understand.

    Case in point, the concept of continuing resolution, that is a budgetary agreement, and sequester, that requires action by the new congress first with the house and senate. By law anything passed by these bodies previously is null and void, and has to be reintroduced to be valid.
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    #28

    Feb 27, 2013, 08:16 AM
    Your grasp of reality is skewed too . The House passed 2 sequester motions that the Senate did not act on . If you want to blame anyone ,blame the do nothing Reid led Senate.
    Now in an act of posturing... the President has set up a meeting to take place Friday... the day AFTER the sequester goes into effect. Now that's leadership!!
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    #29

    Feb 27, 2013, 08:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Your grasp of reality is skewed to far right literally and precludes alternatives and other options you just don't understand. .
    Back to condescension I see. I just don't understand, blah, blah blah. Grow up dude.
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    #30

    Feb 27, 2013, 08:53 AM
    Oh get over yourselves with the gloom, doom, blame game that failed to make Obama a one term president, and do YOUR job, and not tell someone else what to do. Truth is the new congress has done nothing since being sworn in and the far right won't let it.

    Bonehead is already in hot water on his right flank and has to get permission to wipe his own arse after bringing and passing bills with democratic support, and if he did it again with the sequester, the far right would be up in arms and looking for his blood.

    Nothing works without the permission of the far right? That's cool, just stop lying about it and blaming the president because he ain't kissing your raw right butts. I mean how many times are you going to use this fiscal crisis stuff as an excuse NOT to do your job?
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    #31

    Feb 27, 2013, 09:04 AM
    Right back at you . How many times will the President blame the Repubics for not bowing to his every command ? He got his tax hike on the rich . The only reason he is afraid of the cuts is because he knows how insignificant they are ;and how little impact they will have on most..
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    #32

    Feb 27, 2013, 09:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Nothing works without the permission of the far right? Thats cool, just stop lying about it and blaming the president because he ain't kissing your raw right butts. I mean how many times are you going to use this fiscal crisis stuff as an excuse NOT to do your job?
    What part of the Republican-led House has done their job don't you get? The only ones refusing to do their job are the other two Democrat-controlled segments. Geez, Tal, you're the one excusing inaction and tossing blame while Obama is not only spreading doom and gloom, he's unleashing it on purpose.
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    Feb 27, 2013, 12:32 PM
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    #34

    Feb 27, 2013, 01:04 PM
    Hello again,

    It's time for stimulus anyway.. NOT austerity.. Austerity will turn us into Europe. I thought you guy's HATED Europe.

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    #35

    Feb 27, 2013, 02:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    It's time for stimulus anyway.. NOT austerity.. Austerity will turn us into Europe. I thought you guy's HATED Europe.

    excon
    I thought you were Europe, you have a Europe credit rating, a Europe style QE plan, You have Europe style ineffective government, Oh Wait, you are on the left hand side of the Atlantic
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    #36

    Feb 27, 2013, 06:37 PM
    I'm beginning to appreciate a few principled liberal journalists, Bob Woodward has been acting like a journalist and it seems to have pi$$ed off someone at the WH. Damn him for exposing his lies and hypocrisy.
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    #37

    Feb 27, 2013, 06:50 PM
    Well what do they do to him? Revoke his White House Press Pass? If it was good enough for him to get Nixon, it might be good enough for him to get Obama
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    #38

    Feb 27, 2013, 07:47 PM
    The sequester was OBAMAS idea. Now his chickens are coming home to roost and he is trying to blame the repubs.

    This country NEEDS to cut spending and will NOT do so.

    If this is what it takes... I am all for it.
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    #39

    Feb 27, 2013, 07:54 PM
    Obamas acting EXACTLY like a petulant kids throwing a tantrum when he doesn't get his way... there are lots of worthless research programs nobody would miss if they never happened. But no.. Obamas going to smash all his toys and tear up the house throwing a fit.

    Instead of just taking out the trash... like he was asked.

    Anyone willing to guess the total amount of money cut from the welfare program? Which does nothing but pay lazy people to get fat and have babies...

    My guess is a big fat ZERO.
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    #40

    Feb 27, 2013, 08:42 PM
    No what is being cut is the military welfare program, might get a few contractors off the teat and just maybe they will get real about the F35 and enforce quality instead of cost. I think this is a great ploy by Obama, get the republicans to agree to cut the military and then sit back and watch it happen

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