[d milligan]

How to install a110v 30 amp direct line receptacle for a syteam shower

[stanfortyman]

This is a message board, not a search engine.
You need to ask specific questions about what you are doing.

The basic answer is it is installed like any other electrical line.

[creahands]

After reading your question, I would assume that you know nothing about electricity.

Get an electrician to do the job for you. ELECTRIC CAN KILL.

Chuck

[shuntripper]

You need a 30A GFCI circuit breaker at the panel and the wire needs to be two 10AWG (hot and neutral) and a ground wire, going directly to the shower not shared with any other equipment.

That's a 30 amp circuit, but you should only load it up to 24 amps. I'm assuming the new equipment instructions are saying it requires a minimum circuit of 30 amps.

If the circuit is very long you may need to increase the wire size (but NOT the circuit breaker)

[stanfortyman]

That's a 30 amp circuit, but you should only load it up to 24 amps.

Why is that?

[shuntripper]

Why is that?

My stalker feels a need to question anything I post.

Without quoting code sections (which is what he wants).

Loading a circuit at the upper limit of breaker capacity invites nuisance tripping. Say you have a brownout or low voltage condition caused by (whatever) from the supply side, a load drawing power will draw more amperage (volts and amps are inversely proportional relative to power) possibly causing a breaker to trip unnecessarily if loaded right up to the razor's edge.

[stanfortyman]

my stalker feels a need to question anything I post.

Oh come on. Really? Try and be an adult just for a minute. It was a simple question.


The whole 80% circuit loading thing is a myth. There are plenty of times when a circuit by code must not be loaded beyond 80%, but it is not required in all cases and is not a problem.

In your extremely rare example above only inductive loads like motors would react like you say. Resistive loads, li8ke lighting and heat will react the opposite and will draw less.

Either way, maybe I was looking for code quotes. Thing is, you cannot quote what isn't there.

Don't take it personally when I question something I read here. I will always question something I feel, or know, is not right. Regardless of who posts it.

[tkrussell]

In my opinion, if you can afford to purchase a steam shower, you have the financial means to hire an electrician to install the proper wiring.

Here is a statement from the installation manual for one steam unit:

All installation and service to be performed by qualified and licensed electricians

Shunttripper states that GFI protection is needed, not sure how that is determined, this manual does not require GFI protection, as neither does the National Electric Code. Some units may require GFI protection, only needed if the manufacturers instructions require. GFI protection. While GFI protection may be added protection, if the unit does not require , it may not operate properly if GFI protection is added when not required.

Shunttripper neglects to state the unit will need disconnecting means at the unit.

Hire a qualified electrician and plumber and have your specific unit installed and connected properly.




If you do not know how to install wiring, I am not sure how your going to simply install

[shuntripper]

Oh come on. Really? Try and be an adult just for a minute. It was a simple question.


The whole 80% circuit loading thing is a myth. There are plenty of times when a circuit by code must not be loaded beyond 80%, but it is not required in all cases and is not a problem.

In your extremely rare example above only inductive loads like motors would react like you say. Resistive loads, li8ke lighting and heat will react the opposite and will draw less.

Either way, maybe I was looking for code quotes. Thing is, you cannot quote what isn't there.

Don't take it personally when I question something I read here. I will always question something I feel, or know, is not right. Regardless of who posts it.

You weren't offering anything constructive, as far as growing up maybe you can apply that to yourself. 80% is a good rule of thumb to follow when dealing with laypeople who are just trying to solve problems in their homes.

This isn't the Electrical Theory Discussion Forum

Who made you the Electrical Police? As far as I know you aren't a Moderator on this Forum.

Get off my back

[stanfortyman]

You have issues. I am not on your back, nor am I the police. I will however question anything I see fit. Also, what does being a mod have to do with it? Does that give me more authority to question incorrect electrical advice?

If you state you think is a rule of thumb you should say so. You should not make it look like a fact. If you do then don't be surprised to get called on it, by me or anyone else. Pretty simple.

[shuntripper]

You have issues. I am not on your back, nor am I the police. I will however question anything I see fit. Also, what does being a mod have to do with it? Does that give me more authority to question incorrect electrical advice?

If you state you think is a rule of thumb you should say so. You should not make it look like a fact. If you do then don't be surprised to get called on it, by me or anyone else. Pretty simple.

Like I said, not constructive, and overreaching sense of your own importance. I'm trying to help people and you're trying to validate yourself

I don't suppose anyone has given you Editorial privileges here either.

[hfcarson]

Stan, if you need votes to be a "mod", you have mine...