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speechlesstx · Dec 10, 2013, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Even as he has one foot out the door ;Nanny Bloomy is at it again. Now he wants to mandate that all NYC school children get a flu vaccine.
Protest Planned Over Mandatory Vaccine Requirement in New York | Politicker

I'm wondering which Pharmaceutical company Bloomy has interest in.

All of them?

paraclete · Dec 10, 2013, 11:22 PM

hey this is not a bad thing, kids should be vaccinated, so should adults. It's a public health issue.

Just because someone is concerned with public health doesn't mean there is a vested interest. I'm part of the at risk population, I get vaccinated, haven't had the "flu" in years. I think we should be proactive about disease prevention where we can be, we just need to use appropriate methods, no DDT incidents

tomder55 · Dec 11, 2013, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

hey this is not a bad thing, kids should be vaccinated, so should adults. It's a public health issue.

Just because someone is concerned with public health doesn't mean there is a vested interest. I'm part of the at risk population, I get vaccinated, haven't had the "flu" in years. I think we should be proactive about disease prevention where we can be, we just need to use appropriate methods, no DDT incidents

BS ,there is little evidence that mandatory vaccination for the flu would have any meaningful effect .This is just the mini-emperor of NYC sticking his nose where it has no business. The scary thing is I'm sure this putz has national ambitions.

talaniman · Dec 11, 2013, 06:00 AM

You need to get out more Tom as there are many cases of unvaccinated children dying of flu complications and they are high risk healthy or not.

Even Healthy Kids Can Die From Flu Complications | digtriad.com

I don't know about mandatory, but parents do need to be aware, and responsible.

tomder55 · Dec 11, 2013, 06:11 AM

people die from many reasons . The most effective vaccine is live culture which can also cause deaths and complications . The inactive vaccine is less effective and only works to prevent the flu if they guessed correctly which strain will be floating around this year (a cr@p shoot at best since it is constantly mutating ) .

The correct position for the government is educating the public about ALL the risks . Neither local officials or the CDC do a particularly good job of it .

talaniman · Dec 11, 2013, 06:36 AM

If you see a doctor twice a year for a regular check up, you would get that information. Nobody can ignore the free flu shot advertisements that pharmacies and food stores have during flu season.

Actually taking advantage of it may be a challenge for some.

tomder55 · Dec 11, 2013, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

If you see a doctor twice a year for a regular check up, you would get that information. Nobody can ignore the free flu shot advertisements that pharmacies and food stores have during flu season.

Actually taking advantage of it may be a challenge for some.

really ? little accountability*, no prescription necessary, and no check up from the doctor required for some pharmacy clerk to inject you . Yeah that's a plan.
[* vaccines enjoy complete immunity from lawsuits in the market place. If you are injured or die from a vaccine, you or your family cannot sue the manufacturer of the vaccine. This law was upheld bySCOTUS in 2011.]

excon · Dec 11, 2013, 06:46 AM

Hello wingers:

Let's call a spade a spade, shall we??? You're INTO nanny stating your damn self. You BELIEVE the BIG government should protect us ALL from the horrors of marijuana. Oh, I know you'll disavow any connection to it, and SAY you're in favor of it... But, I DON'T see any posts about it... Nahhh... You're HAPPY with the DEA NANNY STATE!!!

Smoking a joint ain't no worse than drinking a big gulp. Ceptin you can get 20 years in Texas for smoking a joint...

STOP THAT, and I'll support you in your war against the "nanny" state. Otherwise, you're HYPOCRITES out for a day of gum flapping..

excon

talaniman · Dec 11, 2013, 06:50 AM

Flu shots are voluntary, and best done by a doctor, but you have to have a doctor first right? Don't have one, now what? Pay 25 bucks, at Walmart, or CVS, or do without, and take your chances.

Where would you get a prescription without a doctor? Do nothing? You just said people can die from anything.

tomder55 · Dec 11, 2013, 06:55 AM

Yeah I'm not thrilled when 30 percent of fatally injured drivers test positive for drugs other than alcohol, with pot being the main culprit. Other than that I am neutral about pot .

tomder55 · Dec 11, 2013, 06:56 AM

Flu shots are voluntary

not if Nanny Bloomy gets his way.

excon · Dec 11, 2013, 07:03 AM

Hello again, tom:

Other than that I am neutral about pot .

That's NANNY STATE thinking.. SOME people abuse it, so to protect EVERYBODY we need to BAN it...

Only HYPOCRITES would be FOR banning ONE thing, and screaming about the government banning another....

Over to you, wingers..

excon

tomder55 · Dec 11, 2013, 07:28 AM

no it aint . there has to be laws against being high and driving .

excon · Dec 11, 2013, 07:39 AM

Hello again, tom:

no it aint . there has to be laws against being high and driving .

Let's talk, shall we??? Or do you go insane when it comes to drugs?? I think so...

Let's be clear.. NOBODY.. That would be NOBODY is advocating driving while high. If you think I did, you need to read my posts again.

That said, YOU believe that because SOME people abuse it, the state should BAN it from EVERYBODY... That's NANNY state thinking - pure and simple..

Look.. I'd STOP calling you a hypocrite, if you'd admit you're ONE way about nanny stating... The stuff YOU like should NEVER be banned, but the stuff you DON'T should...

Until you do, I'm gonna keep on calling a spade a spade.

excon

tomder55 · Dec 11, 2013, 07:45 AM

That would be NOBODY is advocating driving while high. If you think I did, you need to read my posts again.

That said, YOU believe that because SOME people abuse it, the state should BAN it from EVERYBODY... That's NANNY state thinking - pure and simple..

You also must be reading someone elses posts because I haven't said that .

excon · Dec 11, 2013, 07:51 AM

Hello again, tom:

You also must be reading someone elses posts because I haven't said that .

If it shouldn't be banned from EVERYBODY, why don't you simply say it??

Can we STOP with all the gotcha crap??? Plain and simple... Since you're AGAINST the nanny state, do you favor LEGALIZATION of pot? That would be YES, or NO.

excon

speechlesstx · Dec 11, 2013, 08:15 AM

I think calling us hypocrites for assigning positions to us is a pretty shameful game of gotcha.

excon · Dec 11, 2013, 09:08 AM

Hello, Steve:

I think calling us hypocrites for assigning positions to us is a pretty shameful game of gotcha.

Yeah. I'm a pretty shameful fellow..

But, if the shoe fits...

Look.. I KNOW you don't like me calling you on this, and you TRY to make it different.. But, it's NOT.. You COMPLAIN about bloomberg banning soda, but you're FINE with the government banning pot - FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASON... It's not GOOD for you.

I'm WILLING to hear WHY you do that. But, rather than TELL me, you make ME the bad guy instead..

excon

tomder55 · Dec 11, 2013, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom:

If it shouldn't be banned from EVERYBODY, why don't you simply say it??

Can we STOP with all the gotcha crap??? Plain and simple... Since you're AGAINST the nanny state, do you favor LEGALIZATION of pot? That would be YES, or NO.

excon

but it should be banned from SOME people . Oh let me guess. You're fine with people getting drugs without prescriptions.Your fine with minors smoking ..I'm not. You're fine with driving under the influence ? operating heavy equment ..I'm not What I am in favor of is taking pot out of the narcotics class.

talaniman · Dec 11, 2013, 01:10 PM

You let people drink until they get caught or kill somebody, so make it the same for pot. And no prescription needed.