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Oct 5, 2012, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by excon
Hello:
In the days BEFORE Hannity, the Limp one, and angry right wing talk radio, people like this existed only on the fringe. Now, 47% of the country have fallen prey.
We'll NEVER get them to take responsibility for their country.
excon
Hi Ex,
If this is true then it points to two possibilities. Either people are getting their information from a single source or the same information is being disseminated by multiple sources. I tend to think the latter. You would also have to wonder why the lack of quality.
Tut
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Oct 5, 2012, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TUT317
You would also have to wonder why the lack of quality.
Hello TUT:
Because quality people would NEVER fall for racist, red neck, right wing clap trap.
excon
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Oct 5, 2012, 07:58 AM
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It must be that left-wing liberal indoctrination education... oh wait...
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Oct 5, 2012, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TUT317
Hi Ex,
If this is true then it points to two possibilities. Either people are getting their information from a single source or the same information is being disseminated by multiple sources. I tend to think the latter. You would also have to wonder why the lack of quality.
Tut
That one lady is not a representative example of the majority of conservatives. NK's proposition that the conservatives here are just like her is false as is ex's "47 percent" remark. It's just a game the left loves to play, portray the right as (fill in the blank) racist, loony, extremist, bitter clinger, woman hating, and on and on and on.
We saw it with the Tea Party, we saw it the "dominionist" conspiracy theory last year, the mythical "war on women", Bush's coming theocracy, etc. And these come right from mainstream liberals and media figures. Occasionally they even admit it's all just a tactic...
Liberal super PAC: Calling Republicans racist more effective than criticizing policy
Come on Tut, if we can't even say the word "golf" without being accused of sending out dog whistles you really can't take this thread seriously can you?
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Senior Member
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Oct 5, 2012, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by excon
Hello TUT:
Because quality people would NEVER fall for racist, red neck, right wing clap trap.
excon
I think the lady in the video feels as though she is under siege from the left. In reality she is probably fighting two battles. The first battle is the ideological battle. The second battle is what we could term actual social, political and economic issue of the day. The nuts and bolts issues you could say.
The trap is to think that by tackling the ideological issues the nuts and bolts issues will automatically be taken care of. To my knowledge this has never been successful in any country, and at any time in history.
Tut
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Oct 5, 2012, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
That one lady is not a representative example of the majority of conservatives. NK's proposition that the conservatives here are just like her is false as is ex's "47 percent" remark. It's just a game the left loves to play, portray the right as (fill in the blank) racist, loony, extremist, bitter clinger, woman hating, and on and on and on.
We saw it with the Tea Party, we saw it the "dominionist" conspiracy theory last year, the mythical "war on women", Bush's coming theocracy, etc. And these come right from mainstream liberals and media figures. Occasionally they even admit it's all just a tactic...
Liberal super PAC: Calling Republicans racist more effective than criticizing policy
Come on Tut, if we can't even say the word "golf" without being accused of sending out dog whistles you really can't take this thread seriously can you?
Yes, I agree with that... See my comment above.
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Oct 5, 2012, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
That one lady is not a representative example of the majority of conservatives.
Originally Posted by TUT317
I think the lady in the video feels as though she is under siege from the left.
Hello Tut:
I agree. So does Steve.. It's really just a matter of the numbers, then.. Steve thinks 47% is too high. He's right. I made it up. The REAL number is around 40%.
excon
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Oct 5, 2012, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
NK's proposition that the conservatives here are just like her is false
Maybe if I had said that but I didn't. As stated several times in this thread I stated that we've heard every one of her talking points on this website from several different people (which is true), she just pulls it all together in one person and one video.
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Oct 5, 2012, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yes, policy doesn't move voters. I assume in this case it means motivating people to go out and vote.
Portraying policy as an ideological battle is more likely to motivate people to get out and vote. It then becomes a contest as to who can create the biggest siege mentality and thus have the greater success at motivating their constituency.
Tut
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Oct 5, 2012, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TUT317
Yes, policy doesn't move voters. I assume in this case it means motivating people to go out and vote.
Portraying policy as an ideological battle is more likely to motivate people to get out and vote. It then becomes a contest as to who can create the biggest siege mentality and thus have the greater success at motivating their constituency.
Well put, that seem to be exactly what is happening. Not sure how it can be curtailed and returned to policy/facts.
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Oct 5, 2012, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Maybe if I had said that but I didn't. As stated several times in this thread I stated that we've heard every one of her talking points on this website from several different people (which is true), she just pulls it all together in one person and one video.
The title of your thread is "All AMHD right-wingers talking points in one video." The claim I asked you to examine closer that you couldn't seem to discern was this:
See, the difference between your video and the one I posted is that the right-wingers here at AMHD actually say the stuff she says, whereas none of the liberals here advocate anything that shown in your video. That was the point of my post.
Yes, you did say that.
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Oct 5, 2012, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yes, you did say that.
Yes, and I meant it.
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Oct 5, 2012, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TUT317
Yes, policy doesn't move voters. I assume in this case it means motivating people to go out and vote.
Portraying policy as an ideological battle is more likely to motivate people to get out and vote. It then becomes a contest as to who can create the biggest siege mentality and thus have the greater success at motivating their constituency.
Tut
And so Romney's constituency is represented by this woman? Back to square one.
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Oct 5, 2012, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
And so Romney's constituency is represented by this woman? Back to square one.
I think he was looking at the bigger picture, not just a single person, nor a single party.
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Oct 5, 2012, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I think he was looking at the bigger picture, not just a single person, nor a single party.
What exactly is the point of this thread?
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Oct 5, 2012, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
What exactly is the point of this thread?
You seem confused today. You can start from the top again. :-)
What is the point of any thread in the Current Events forum?
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Oct 5, 2012, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma
You seem confused today. You can start from the top again. :-)
Confused? I'm not the one that couldn't remember what I said.
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Oct 5, 2012, 09:54 AM
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This site is doing funny things. LOL
Anyway, what was the answer to "Perhaps you should look a little closer?" - I don't think you ever answered that.
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Oct 5, 2012, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma
This site is doing funny things. LOL
Anyway, what was the answer to "Perhaps you should look a little closer?" - I don't think you ever answered that.
I haven't noticed any problems with the site.
The whole point of that response was for you to re-examine what you had just said in light of reality.
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Oct 5, 2012, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
The whole point of that response was for you to re-examine what you had just said in light of reality.
All right I'll bite: show me where I'm advocated putting a cap on corporate profits.
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