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    Aug 30, 2012, 09:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I don't talk to you about sports.



    Awww, give yourself a pat on the back for being so clever.

    Back to the OP. Do you have anything useful to say on the topic?
    Do you?

    (we could do this all day!)
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    #42

    Aug 30, 2012, 09:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Do you?

    (we could do this all day!)
    If you like wasting your time on puerile games knock yourself out.
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    #43

    Aug 30, 2012, 09:28 AM
    Roger that.
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    #44

    Aug 30, 2012, 09:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Magpie95 View Post
    Oh come on. You're just upset because he busted you guys on your hypocrisy. Your name calling the same as lefties did to Bush. You're no better in that department. And the fact that you are trying to justify it makes it even sadder.

    Based on what you are saying here, perhaps our government should model Canada's? Sounds like its so great up there that they could possible understand our issues. Right! Ha.

    And by disasterous mistakes...you mean something besides invading the wrong country after 911and justfying it with the search for Santa Claus WMDs? Doh!


    Cripes... OBAMA hasn't done ANYTHING right since the day he took office...

    No.. Canadas government is almost a joke (not as bad as Italy's which is a joke)... and far from perfect.

    Incidentally... I do have a business in making thoise statements because I wasn't born yesterday... and I've had to live with DECADES of the left wing lies they spread on people that are basically clueless about reality. Because their only source of information is from the propaganda the left has spread. Few of them have actually seen any events themselves much less a lot of them.

    Incidentally in the course of the last 30 years... I've seen and been part of MANY things I am not under liberty to discuss in detail in person... much less on a site like this.

    Some major events that have been completely misrepresented and some that have been covered up...

    And know what... it was a shock to me when I first started to see this first hand and I've seen so much over the last 3 dacades is flat out disgusts me these days.


    So I AM in a position to make these statements...

    Is it unique to the USA... nope, not at all, its actually worse in other countries. Yes I have lived and worked abroad for significant periods. And yes I still do travel and spend significant time overseas... enough I have property and interests in more than one country as well as retain the ability to work in the EU as well as the USA.
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    #45

    Aug 30, 2012, 09:33 AM
    You should write a book!
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    #46

    Aug 30, 2012, 09:35 AM
    Pandering shamelessly for the racist vote doesn't make you a racist, just an opportunistic exploiter of fears. Nixons own southern strategy was the basis to this type of electioneering.
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    Aug 30, 2012, 09:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Pandering shamelessly for the racist vote doesn't make you a racist, just an opportunistic exploiter of fears. Nixons own southern strategy was the basis to this type of electioneering.
    I take you mean the GOP based on these mysterious code words popping up everywhere.

    ??

    Grow up, enough of this racist bullsh*t.
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    Aug 30, 2012, 09:48 AM
    You cannot talk about racism if you don't acknowledge its existence.
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    Aug 30, 2012, 09:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You should write a book!
    I could.. if I was so inclined... but there are such things as non-disclosure agreements without experation dates.

    Totally besides the point I have ZERO desire to write a book. I just don't enjoy doing that sort of thing.
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    #50

    Aug 30, 2012, 09:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You cannot talk about racism if you don't acknowledge its existance.
    Oh it does exist... its that it exists MOST in areas that are not politically correct to acknowledge... like in the Black community where Hispanics are hated as well as are Asians... and even whites.

    The torch bearers among rascists aren't White these days. Most often they are anything BUT white.
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    #51

    Aug 30, 2012, 09:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    The torch bearers amoung rascists aren't White these days. Most often they are anything BUT white.
    Because the white race is dominant?
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    Aug 30, 2012, 10:04 AM
    The National Memo The Republican Convention Has A Serious Race Problem

    Although the RNC does not keep exact demographic statistics, The Grio reports that various counts show between 28 and 47 black delegates at this year's convention, out of 2,286 total. That's less than 2 percent.

    That lack of diversity is also reflected in polls of the presidential race. Mitt Romney, who quickly identified immigration as an issue where he could veer to the right of his opponents in the Republican primary, now trails President Obama among Latino voters by a 39 point margin. His standing among African-Americans is exponentially worse; according to one recent poll, black voters favor President Obama over Romney by a 94 to zero percent margin. Yes, a major party candidate for president of the United States is polling at zero percent among African-Americans.

    Rather than reach out to minority communities, however, Romney and the Republicans seem intent on belittling them. Much of the 2012 convention has been devoted to widely debunked lies that President Obama has eliminated the work requirement from welfare, and that he's robbing Medicare to pay for the Affordable Care Act (which right wingers consider to be the ultimate government handout.) The message could not be more clear: Obama is giving your hard earned money to indolent, dependent blacks.
    Just saying what we all are just saying.
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    #53

    Aug 30, 2012, 10:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You cannot talk about racism if you don't acknowledge its existance.
    I'm really tired of that cliché, too. It's just another one of those things you guys on the left do to try and end the discussion without giving any real answers.

    Virtually everyone acknowledges the existence of racism. We cannot get past racism if you keep injecting racism where it doesn't exist.

    Acknowledge that.

    P.S. And as for your silly memo up there, a perfect example of what I just said, injecting racism where it doesn't exist.
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    #54

    Aug 30, 2012, 10:34 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Because the white race is dominant?
    No... because racism is alive and well among every other race too ( and even more common there)... its not hard to see... its not something only whites do... contrary to what the left tries to portray.

    People from Spain look down on hispanics, hispanics look down on native americans.. and other hispanic groups, Asians do the same thing, Blacks do too, African=americans look down on real Africans... dark skined blacks are looked down upon by light skinned blacks... etc... etc... etc...

    I don't know if Inuits share in this trait or not.
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    Aug 30, 2012, 11:20 AM
    I have never heard a Dem defend workfare . It took some serious arm twisting to get Clintoon to pass it in the 1st place and we know that the President(who has publicly spoken against workfare in the past ) will do what he can to weaken it's provisions . I expect an EO ending it in his 2nd term or some decision by Sebellius that guts the major provisions..
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    #56

    Aug 30, 2012, 11:51 AM
    How's this, can you guys hearing the dog whistles just tell us up front what all these code words are at once instead of adding to the list as it suits you?

    I already have "golf", "welfare", “holding down the fort”, "state's rights", “entitlement society”, "food stamps", "founding fathers", “old-fashioned American values” and the latest, "Chicago."

    What else sets off your magic decoder rings?
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    #57

    Aug 30, 2012, 12:08 PM
    I think it's a result of years of drug use... obvious paranoid delusions. Voices in their heads... the wallpaper speaking to them, and their toaster discussing philosephy.
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    #58

    Aug 30, 2012, 04:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    How's this, can you guys hearing the dog whistles just tell us up front what all these code words are at once instead of adding to the list as it suits you?

    I already have "golf", "welfare", “holding down the fort”, "state's rights", “entitlement society”, "food stamps", "founding fathers", “old-fashioned American values” and the latest, "Chicago."

    What else sets off your magic decoder rings?
    What does all this mean? What are code words? And how does it relate to racism?

    I think its great when people are passionate about their views. But it scary when a person has drank the Kool Aid to the point that they can't see that all this stuff happens in BOTH parties.
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    Aug 30, 2012, 10:30 PM
    Racism in America: Today Futile Democracy

    Now I wouldn't immediately jump to the conclusion that the Tea Party is an inherently racist organisation, it is mainly a vehicle to promote the incoherent ramblings of an uneducated economically far right puritanical Republican group wholly run by Corporate America to advance its interest at the behest of even the idiots who indirectly fight for the rights of Corporate America, now slowly morphed to include racism as part of their base.
    Not saying it doesn't exist on both sides, but clearly is used to further a more hidden agenda. But why else would my right wing brothers justify the lies that Romney is pushing? All these freaking threads we have discussed, and none of them has bothered to read the freaking website their candidate presents or question any of it.

    That's my point.
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    Aug 31, 2012, 06:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Magpie95 View Post
    What does all this mean? What are code words? And how does it relate to racism?

    I think its great when people are passionate about their views. But it scary when a person has drank the kool aid to the point that they can't see that all this stuff happens in BOTH parties.
    What does it all mean? It means the left interprets those words as racist code any time a conservative/Republican/Tea Partier uses such. It's a total figment of their imagination - they work overtime to find racism where it doesn't exist to have an excuse to demonize us, pat themselves on the back and glow in their self-righteousness.

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