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Jul 9, 2012, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, R:
In fact, it's your justification to continue to tell people that they're WRONG...
excon
Well according to mordern science, they are. You wouldn't go shouting at a man for saying water boils at 100 degrees would you? Yet when I say there is no verifiable, or empirical data for any type of God or supernatural phenemena, it becomes a problem.
Ryan
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Jul 9, 2012, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryantheatheist
And furthermore, How does he communicate...is it a voice in your head?
Hello again, Ryan:
You're offending my friend, Carol, now.
There IS a way to discuss atheism WITHOUT being confrontational and offensive... You don't know HOW to do that. I'd learn, if I was you.
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Jul 9, 2012, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought that after you said you had on-going convosations, But I am not trying to offend here :)
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Jul 9, 2012, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Ryan:
You're offending my friend, Carol, now.
excon
I am sorry what?. She offends my intelligence by stating that she is having a convosation with something she herself says we can't comprehend... I ask her a legitimate question whether it's a voice and it is offensive?. So what does he telephone her?
It was a genuine question to see how she communicates.
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Jul 9, 2012, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryantheatheist
Yet when I say there is no verifiable, or empirical data for any type of God or supernatural phenemena, it becomes a problem.
Not a problem at all! There IS no empirical evidence for God. It's all based on faith.
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Jul 9, 2012, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryantheatheist
I thought that after you said you had on-going convosations, But I am not trying to offend here :)
Of course you aren't. ;)
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Jul 9, 2012, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryantheatheist
It was a genuine question to see how she communicates.
Hello again, Ryan:
It's NOT a genuine question.. It's CONFRONTATIONAL. How is it that you don't understand what's going on right under your feet? Are you a kid?
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Jul 9, 2012, 09:02 AM
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Ok well, looks like this is just going to get worse. I am going home now (I am at work).
I will pop back tomorrow when we've all calmed down.
Toodles.
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Jul 9, 2012, 09:02 AM
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Only one of us is not calm.
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Jul 9, 2012, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Ryan:
It's NOT a genuine question.. Are you a kid?
excon
I am sorry, but I am not the one claiming I can talk to a man in the sky... re-evaluate your position.
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Jul 9, 2012, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryantheatheist
I am sorry, but I am not the one claiming I can talk to a man in the sky...re-evaluate your position.
Hello again, R:
I don't need to re-evaluate MY position. I'm an atheist. I'm just not an a$$hole about it.
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Jul 9, 2012, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryantheatheist
I am sorry, but I am not the one claiming I can talk to a man in the sky...re-evaluate your position.
He's not in the sky.
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Jul 9, 2012, 09:16 AM
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Ryan, you're offensive - at the workplace and on AMHD.
I was truly nice and explained my position. Carol disagreed and YOU became unpleasant.
Your "does He communicate by voices in your head comment" is demeaning to Wondergirl and indicates you are either very ignorant, very uneducated or very rude.
Or all three.
I find it amazing that the very person who finds people who preach is preaching.
Just out of curiosity - why do you have such a need to express your views on atheism? To "convert" us - or "de-convert" else or whatever else is involved.
I have a fair amount of experience with very sick people and also the legal system - there are no atheists in prison or on their death beds. I've yet to see one example to the contrary.
I have no idea what that means but thought I'd throw it into the mix.
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Jul 9, 2012, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Ryan:
It's NOT a genuine question.. It's CONFRONTATIONAL. How is it that you don't understand what's going on right under your feet? Are you a kid?
excon
Yes, he's 20, I'll guess a server, and his "two peas in a pod" 27-year old girlfriend just kicked him out - https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relati...ce-678759.html. He was forced to move back in with Mom and Dad.
I'm working on what qualifies a professed atheist to spend large chunks of time on the Islam Board. Note that "Ryan" didn't answer.
I also note to my vast amusement that Wondergirl (sorry to pick on you) doesn't find it necessary to use the username "WondergirlChristian." Ryan finds the need to "RyanAtheist."
I am changing mine to Judykayteelegalstuff.
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Jul 9, 2012, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryantheatheist
Ok well, looks like this is just going to get worse. I am going home now (I am at work).
I will pop back tomorrow when we've all calmed down.
Toodles.
As an atheist myself you come off as antireligious.
It's said better here: Atheism: An Introduction to Atheism
"If atheism is not religious, surely it's antireligious?"
It is an unfortunate human tendency to label everyone as either "for" or "against," "friend" or "enemy." The truth is not so clear-cut.
Atheism is the position that runs logically counter to theism; in that sense, it can be said to be "antireligion." However, when religious believers speak of atheists being "antireligious" they usually mean that the atheists have some sort of antipathy or hatred towards theists.
This categorization of atheists as hostile towards religion is quite unfair. Atheist attitudes towards theists in fact cover a broad spectrum.
Most atheists take a "live and let live" attitude. Unless questioned, they will not usually mention their atheism, except perhaps to close friends. Of course, this may be in part because atheism is not "socially acceptable" in many countries.
A few atheists are quite antireligious, and may even try to "convert" others when possible. Historically, such antireligious atheists have made little impact on society outside the Eastern Bloc countries.
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Some atheists are quite vocal about their beliefs, but only where they see religion encroaching on matters which are not its business--for example, the government of the USA. Such individuals are usually concerned that church and state should remain separate.
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Jul 9, 2012, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryantheatheist
I am sorry what?...She offends my intelligence by stating that she is having a convosation with something she herself says we can't comprehend...I ask her a legitimate question whether it's a voice and it is offensive?...So what does he telephone her?
You started this off with a reasonable question. I answered that question, but now you are trying to impose your beliefs on others which is what you started complaining about.
This is a point I have made several times. I agree that there is no proof that God exists, but there is also no proof that he doesn't. Therefore it is a matter of faith and personal beliefs. You are getting offended because WG believes, why? Isn't that the same question you asked? So maybe you can answer your own question.
But I detest proselytizers and that seems to be where you are headed.
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Jul 9, 2012, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Perhaps wisdom comes with age -
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Jul 9, 2012, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
Perhaps wisdom comes with age -
My atheist library page friend was the same age when he confronted me. It must be a developmental thing.
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Jul 9, 2012, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
Perhaps wisdom comes with age -
That might be it. In the same vein that peer pressure has absolutely no effect on me.
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Jul 9, 2012, 10:05 AM
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Atheist, Christian, Buddhist, Jain, Hindu, doctor, lawyer, Indian chief -- it's how we behave toward each other.
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