[AK lawyer]

That almost answers my other question. Should I try to garner a little support/sympathy beforehand by saying my urine may be dirty and this is why? Or should I wait for the results and try to if and & but my way out of it then?

And as I understand excon's reply to my earlier question, I think he is saying the former: tell her from the get-go.

Good luck. What time is the meeting? Let us know how it went.

[Darnell14]

Damn... I go at 2pm on Monday. Do you think it would matter that I'm a single parent of a 9 year old boy that would be in school that day with no one to pick him up if violated?

[excon]

Damn... I go at 2pm on Monday. Do you think it would matter that I'm a single parent of a 9 year old boy that would be in school that day with no one to pick him up if violated?

Hello again, D:

NO!! If they gave a sh*t, the prisons would be EMPTY. In fact, we are the worlds LARGEST jailer. We have MORE prisoners that CHINA who has 4 BILLION people and are supposed to be the nasty ones...

Nope. They WANT to bust you! They don't care about your kids. They care about their CAREERS. It goes on their record and that'll help 'em get promoted... Realize WHO you're dealing with here. They AIN'T nice.

excon

[Darnell14]

Whelp, I guess that's that. I'll keep the boy out of school that day and hope for the best. Like I said, hope to be able to report back on Monday, ha ha... thanks again!

[excon]

Whelp, I guess that's that. I'll keep the boy outta school that day and hope for the best.

Hello again, D:

Well, it DOES take a few days for the test results. Even IF/WHEN you're dirty, she may NOT violate you, or if she does, she may NOT arrest you. I don't know what she'll do. What are we talking about here? Pot?? Heroin?? It makes a difference.

excon

[Darnell14]

Hello again, D:

Well, it DOES take a few days for the test results. Even IF/WHEN you're dirty, she may NOT violate you, or if she does, she may NOT arrest you. I dunno what she'll do. What are we talking about here? Pot??? Heroin??? It makes a difference.

excon

Oh, so it isn't an instant thing? Yeah, it would be just pot and alcohol (I drank almost a fifth of Jim Bean every night for quite awhile so I'm sure it would be stored in my fat for some time, or so I've been told.) Think 4 days is enough time?

[excon]

Hello again, D:

You said the court ordered you to be "clean". Unless alcohol was specifically included, drinking is legal. So, if it's JUST pot, and you admit it first, unless she's a TOTAL jerk, I can't imagine her violating you - or even if she does, I DOUBT she'll put you in jail to await your hearing, and I can't imagine the judge sentencing you to jail for the violation...

Now, as I said before, lots of them ARE total jerks.

excon

[Darnell14]

Hello again, D:

You said the court ordered you to be "clean". Unless alcohol was specifically included, drinking is legal. So, if it's JUST pot, and you admit it first, unless she's a TOTAL jerk, I can't imagine her violating you - or even if she does, I DOUBT she'll put you in jail to await your hearing, and I can't imagine the judge sentencing you to jail for the violation...

Now, as I said before, lots of them ARE total jerks.

excon

Alcohol was included and she seems like a TOTAL *******. :(

[excon]

Alcohol was included and she seems like a TOTAL *******. :(

Hello again, D:

I changed my mind. Admit nothing. Smile. Be friendly. Don't tell her sh*t.

excon

[Darnell14]

Hello again, D:

I changed my mind. Admit nothing. Smile. Be friendly. Don't tell her sh*t.

excon

Ha ha, will do, and thanks again!

[AK lawyer]

Hello again, D:

I changed my mind. Admit nothing. Smile. Be friendly. Don't tell her sh*t.

excon

Ok. Back to the drawing board.

Let's look at the forensics of the issue then.

This suggests to me that the bourbon won't show 4 days after consumption, and the cannabis is borderline.

[AK lawyer]

Wait a minute here. I just noticed something:

... When my trial date came I lucked out ... My first meeting with my P.O. is Monday (4 days after trial) ... I haven't done anything since the trial date and ...

Today is Friday. Monday is four days from today. Are you saying the trial date was today? Very short trial, apparently, since your first post was 8:24 a.m. Central Time.

[Darnell14]

Wait a minute here. I just noticed something:



Today is Friday. Monday is four days from today. Are you saying the trial date was today? Very short trial, apparently, since your first post was 8:24 a.m., Central Time.

My trial was Thursday, I see the PO Monday... 4 days.

[Fr_Chuck]

There is a window, it is called "bail" from the time you were arrested, you should have stopped doing anything illegal. Remember under the laws using pot is illegal, some only a misdemeanor but still a crime, and you could have been arrested with a new crime. Of course drinking is not illegal.

As noted, unless they do a test with hair, the drinking will not show up. But the pot will. Since you are not suppose to be using drugs, that means you were still breaking the law after being arrested for something.

Normally they will give you a serious warning and more frequent testing if you fail a test but again, they may want to prove the point and violate you on the first meeting, to make you sit in jail a bit, but the judge would normally just put you back on probation.

Expect the PO to read you a riot act, talk to you like a dog and try and get you to go off.

[Darnell14]

Ok, get this. I answer a knock at the door at 10:30 this a.m. to find my PO standing there with a cop. I ask what's the problem, it's not 2pm yet. She says to me "you were supposed to be there at 10am, you missed your first appointment." It clearly states on my court papers 2pm but what ever. They escort me down to the court and give me a bunch of **** to sign, read me the riot act, tell me I have to submit a DNA sample because of the nature of the crime (AB w/DW) and then came the Urine test. Now mind you, I went out to GNC yesterday and picked up this thing called "QCARBO32" that's supposed to give a 100% guarantee of a clean system. I don't know if it was really that, but I smoked some high grade trees just 4 days ago and I came back clean today!! THANK THE DEAR LORD!

And thanks to all you folks that talked me down off the roof, ha ha... it's time to rebuild my life again, and without pollutants this time.

[excon]

Hello again, D:

They gave you the results already?? Cool.

excon

[Darnell14]

Hello again, D:

They gave you the results already??? Cool.

excon

Yeah, I went in the bathroom with the CO and gave him a sample. He says to go wait out in the lobby, he came back out and told the PO it was clean. Was it a stick test or something? My PO asked him what the numbers were and he said that he didn't do numbers. Any idea what that might have meant? And should I be giving a DNA sample for an assault charge? I'm not a rapist!

[AK lawyer]

... I came back clean today!!! THANK THE DEAR LORD!
...

Yes, He was looking out for you, wasn't He?
Good for you.

... it's time to rebuild my life again, and without pollutants this time.

Amen.

And should I be giving a DNA sample for an assault charge? I'm not a rapist!!

I don't think there are any definitive rules limiting when they can collect DNA samples. But keep in mind, it's possible to leave DNA trace evidence in many assault-type offenses, not just a sexual offense.

[Darnell14]

That makes sense... thanks, AK lawyer!

[excon]

And should I be giving a DNA sample for an assault charge? I'm not a rapist!!

Hello again, D:

If they can require you to produce urine on demand, then they can require you to produce spit.

excon