[spitvenom]

Glen Beck is leaving Fox.

Glenn Beck leaving his Fox News Channel show | AP | 04/06/2011

[tomder55]

Beck thinks he's bigger than FOX . Good luck with that.

Where he has been successful is in recruiting for his web page... 'The Blaze'...

Well OK... no body has heard of that either.. .

Never mind.. .

[cdad]

Beck thinks he's bigger than FOX . Good luck with that.

Where he has been successful is in recruiting for his web page...'The Blaze' ..........

well ok ....no body has heard of that either .. ........

never mind... .

The Blaze?? I thought that was something excon was smoking.. right ?

[excon]

The Blaze ??? I thought that was something excon was smoking .. right ?

Hello dad:

Never heard of that. Send me some... I kind of wish Beck would stay around. I LOVE it when those guys cry.

excon

[tomder55]

Interesting that no one posted about Katie Couric getting canned... or Matt Lauer or Meredith Vieira.

No doubt Media Matters will take full credit for the canning of Beck .

[excon]

interesting that no one posted about Katie Couric getting canned ...or Matt Lauer or Meredith Vieira. No doubt Media Matters will take full credit for the canning of Beck .

Hello again, tom:

Not mentioning those also rans is to Becks credit, doncha think? You know who I think got him fired?? O'Reilly! You could see the relationship breaking down when they appeared together..

Beck is bizarre, though, you got to admit... I've been watching. He says the world will go up in flames when the radical communists and socialists team up with the Jihadists... Frankly, I think he's right. If those groups became buddies, hell WOULD be freezing over.

excon

[tomder55]

Beck is strange all right. What gets me is that his viewership thought he was revealing something new.
But if you look at our debates during and since the 2008 elections ;everything he speaks of from Soros to Cass Sunstein ,to all of the President's past and current associations ,were mentioned here. The history of the Muslim Brotherhood has been discussed ,and yes even the appearance of an alliance of convenience between the left and jihadistan. (or the lefts growing submission to jihadistan ).

[tomder55]

This weekend there are 2 major events being hosted by George Soros .

One is to be held in Bretton Woods, N.H. and not surprising,it is a conference to be attended by some of the biggest financial heavy weights and politicians in US and the world .Soros has described this as “a grand bargain that rearranges the entire financial order.” He has been a long time advocate of a world government with a global currency under UN rule.

You would think that something like this would be a major news story . I've surfed the radio all morning looking for any sign of it being newsworthy. So far nothing .

The other event is equally ominous and sinister .

There will be a 'National conference for media reform' in Boston. There are 300 presenters including such prominent Americans as Minority Leader Madame Mimi Pelosi ,socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders and FCC Commissioners Michael Copps and Mignon Clyburn.

What ? You didn't hear about this ? If you were watching Beck you did. Could it be that the left leaning media finds these twin events happening at the same time by the same patron to be of no significance ? Kind of doubt that .

[excon]

The other event is equally ominous and sinister .

Hello again, tom:

What I consider ominous is a Koch brother meeting with TWO, count 'em, TWO Supreme Court Justice's in attendance (Scalia and Thomas), and where Thomas has his ENTIRE weekend bill paid for. Talk about sinister! That's close to a QUARTER of one third of the ENTIRE government... And, you complain about a secretary of state who is quitting soon?? Dude!

Nahhhh.. Beck didn't tell me about that.

excon

[NeedKarma]

... these twin events happening at the same time by the same patron to be of no significance ? .

Ok I give up, what is the significance of these conferences happening at the same time?

[tomder55]

If you are going to allege some conflict of interest in this case then you best make a blanket charge against anyone in government attending think tank and university events ,along with multitudes of invites to politicians to corporate events.
Based on that ,every Justice of SCOTUS would have to recuse themselves for similar behavior.

[TUT317]

This weekend there are 2 major events being hosted by George Soros .

[/I] He has been a long time advocate of a world government with a global currency under UN rule.
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Hi Tom,

I would find this rather surprising from a man who studies under Karl Popper. I am not saying he didn't advocate some type of a one world government, only that I would find this surprising.

I am assuming that his Open Society Institute is named after Popper's famous, 'The Open Society and it's Enemies' publications. A one world government under the U.N. would be a perfect example of what Popper and probably Soros would call, 'the poverty of historicism'. An example of this would be the idea that economic theory follows certain inevitable and deterministic laws of history.

Economic rationalism would be an example of historicism along with Marxian economic theories. Both these 'left' and 'right' theories would be regarded as being the enemy of any open society.

This is why I find it rather strange that he would advocate such a thing. Did he actually say this or is it just an attempt to distort his position?

It would be like you advocating that governments should be more involved in the affairs of the media.

Regards

Tut

[tomder55]

Around 3-4 min. mark of this interview with Financial Times.
NTEB: George Soros Openly Discusses the coming New World Order | dotSUB

My only error in that is that he wants the IMF to adminster the currency.

However ,in an op-ed piece in 2009 ,he made it clear that his goals went beyond the reorganization of the monitary system .

Reorganizing the world order will need to extend beyond the financial system and involve the United Nations, especially Security Council membership.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-b...0091108a1.html

He called for this conference he is holding this weekend in the op-ed. Watch what comes out of this . These one -world guys don't even attempt to disguise their goals .

If you look further ,you will find that Soros distorts Poppper's views to a point of non-recognition .If you read Soro's writings you find many instances where he and Popper differ. Example ;Popper consistently favored the individual over the collective .Soros wrote in 'The Open society and Its Enemies'
I contend that an open society may also be threatened from the opposite direction — from excessive individualism. Too much competition and too little cooperation can cause intolerable inequities and instability.

You tell me how an 'open society that favors the individual curbs excessive individualism, competition, and “intolerable inequities.” I'll tell you how ,the coercive state. The only difference is that Soros' state would have no borders.

[TUT317]

around 3-4 min. mark of this interview with Finacial Times.
NTEB: George Soros Openly Discusses the coming New World Order | dotSUB

My only error in that is that he wants the IMF to adminster the currency.

However ,in an op-ed piece in 2009 ,he made it clear that his goals went beyond the reorganization of the monitary system .

No alternative to a new world architecture | The Japan Times Online

He called for this conference he is holding this weekend in the op-ed. Watch what comes out of this . These one -world guys don't even attempt to disguise their goals .

If you look futher ,you will find that Soros distorts Poppper's views to a point of non-recognition .If you read Soro's writings you find many instances where he and Popper differ. Example ;Popper consistently favored the individual over the collective .Soros wrote in 'The Open society and Its Enemies'
I contend that an open society may also be threatened from the opposite direction — from excessive individualism. Too much competition and too little cooperation can cause intolerable inequities and instability.

You tell me how an 'open society that favors the individual curbs excessive individualism, competition, and “intolerable inequities.” I'll tell you how ,the coercive state. The only difference is that Soros' state would have no borders.

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the info. I don't know much about Soros.Perhaps when I look into the links you provided I will even be more surprised.

Thanks again, it looks like interesting reading.

Tut

[tomder55]

Tut
I meant to write that in an essay in 'Atlantic ' Soros disputed one of
Popper's contentions IN 'The Open society and Its Enemies'

I contend that an open society may also be threatened from the opposite direction — from excessive individualism. Too much competition and too little cooperation can cause intolerable inequities and instability.

The Capitalist Threat - 97.02

What I find comical in Soros attack on Capitalism is his contention that somehow there is a laissez faire system in place in the free market. It has never been further from the truth than today. Government command and control of the economy is the hallmark of the late 20th-21st Century capitalism,and is in my view ,largely responsible for the current financial situation.

[TUT317]

Tut
I meant to write that in an essay in 'Atlantic ' Soros disputed one of
Popper's contentions IN 'The Open society and Its Enemies'

The Capitalist Threat - 97.02

What I find comical in Soros attack on Capitalism is his contention that somehow there is a laissez faire system in place in the free market. It has never been further from the truth than today. Government command and control of the economy is the hallmark of the late 20th-21st Century capitalism,and is in my view ,largely responsible for the current financial situation.

Hi Tom,

I certainly agree with your claim there is no laissez fair system in place. On this basis I don't see how such a system can be an attack on an open society. I don't really see Soros' problem unless he is looking into the future. If he is then he would be falling into the historicist trap as outlined by Popper.

Can an open society can be attacked though excessive individualism? Interesting question.

I don't think this is actually a distortion of Popper's position mainly because I think Popper didn't adequately address this aspect of the debate. He left it somewhat, 'up in the air', so to speak.

The main reason for me saying this is because of the type of methodology Popper didn't favour viz methodological individualism. In other words, would Popper talk about Laissez fair and capitalism as a system which can only be explained and understood in terms of the individuals making up that system? I tend to think he wouldn't.


Tut